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Enderle spouts some incredible nonsense about Apple iPod+iTunes
Friday, July 07, 2006 - 02:31 PM EDT

"I’m starting to see a number of anecdotal reports indicating the market lust for the iPod as a product, and perhaps MP3 players as a category, is starting to cool dramatically ...in competing products the new SanDisk and Samsung players are thought to be better then [sic] some of the iPods and both MTV’s Urge and Real Networks Rhapsody are increasingly favored over iTunes while Apple’s own new lines are reported to be delayed," Rob Enderle writes for Technology Pundits.

"Apple has gone back to marketing PCs and the opportunity cost of that is they aren’t doing as much marketing of iPods. Part of this drag may be because of this marketing shift and the downside for Apple’s great marketing is that when they don’t do it people aren’t motivated to buy the related products. They are getting some pick up on the PC side but it may not be enough, particularly with a new OS and new hardware on the horizon, to overcome the iPod slip," Enderle writes.

"There has also been a lot of negative news out on iPods breaking and monopolistic practices in certain geographies (like France) which has undoubtedly created some purchase drag," Enderle explains. "We expect Apple will dramatically expand their iPod accessories line to better farm their installed base. They will also have to address the problems associated with their DRM and its inability to use subscription services which, we’re sure, even they can now admit are the future of this space so they can offer one as well."

Enderle writes, "Expect a stronger tie between their PCs and iPods as they go forward, they had already tied together design elements but hadn’t yet gotten creative with integrated docking or purchase bundles."

Full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: We're constantly amazed that this idiot can somehow make enough cash to buy groceries, pay his mortgage, and provide health care for himself and, presumably, other(s) in his family along with all the rest of the usual expenses. America is truly an amazing place; the streets are paved with gold even for absolute morons. Nothing - not a single thing - from Enderle's scribbles above is backed with even a shred of proof.

To summarize:
• Anecdotal "reports" from who-knows-where do not mean that "market lust for the iPod as a product, and perhaps MP3 players as a category, is starting to cool dramatically."
• Who exactly thinks that "the new SanDisk and Samsung players are better then [sic] some of the iPods?" What are their credentials? For whom do they work? What have they been smoking?
• "Both MTV’s Urge and Real Networks Rhapsody are increasingly favored over iTunes" by whom, exactly? Steve Ballmer? Rob Glaser?
• "Apple’s own new [iPod] lines are reported to be delayed" by precisely one analyst (Shaw Wu) on the planet. We'd like at least some reliable corroboration. The voices in Enderle's head don't count.
• "Apple has gone back to marketing PCs and [so] they aren’t doing as much marketing of iPods." Quick, somebody Google mutually exclusive!
• Apple's selling more Macs, "but it may not be enough, particularly with a new OS and new hardware on the horizon, to overcome the iPod slip." What "iPod slip?" Oh, yeah, "anecdotal reports." We forgot.
• One small batch of defective iPod screens cracking quarters ago that Apple has long ago replaced and France's toothless DRM legislation have "undoubtedly created some purchase drag?" If you define "some" as "three Parisians and one poor guy who can't figure out how to get his iPod fixed for free," then get a dictionary.
• "Apple will dramatically expand their iPod accessories line." Holy crap, Enderle might have mistakenly gotten one right! Still, no solid proof, though, of course.
• Apple "will also have to address the problems associated with their DRM?" Which would be what, that FairPlay works on both Macs and Windows PCs and 55+ million iPods, unlike Microsoft's failed DRM?
• The lack of a iTunes Music Store "subscription service" is a problem? Is that because surveys show that users prefer music ownership over subscriptions or because nobody is very successful with subscription services at all?

It's all just pure Enderlunacy, as usual.

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Jul 07, 06 - 02:38 pm Comment from: macromancer

You coulda just stopped the headline after the word 'nonsense' and it would have still been meaningful.

Jul 07, 06 - 02:42 pm Comment from: The Unreal Steve Ballmer

The voices in Enderle's head don't count.

LOL

Jul 07, 06 - 02:43 pm Comment from: Bob

Wow... you can't get much more douche bag than that... really... this doesn't even border on a logical column. If you're going to make such statements - even as a columnist - you REALLY need to back them up with facts.

Douche.

Jul 07, 06 - 02:49 pm Comment from: stevehodges

The man's a raving fruitcake...

Jul 07, 06 - 02:49 pm Comment from: Wingsy

There's a good reason that Technology Pundits web site doesn't have a reader feedback section (at least I couldn't find one anywhere). Their servers couldn't handle it.

Jul 07, 06 - 02:51 pm Comment from: John Gee

Who is his editor?

"in competing products the new SanDisk and Samsung players are thought to be better then some of the iPods and both MTV’s Urge..."

try "is better than"

Maybe it was MDN...I'll check. smile..

...wow, I MUST have something better to do. smile

Jul 07, 06 - 02:57 pm Comment from: rob

you guys just don't get it. this guy, along with dvorak (who openly admitted it recently) purposely troll with articles like this specifically for web page hits. all you have to do is mention apple in a negative way, and you've got thousands of angry mac users bringing this moron's (and others) hits to all time highs to bring advertisers. that's how he makes his money. if you don't buy into it and visit his site, he will lose revenue.

mdn magic word "support", as in don't support this kind of press!

Jul 07, 06 - 02:58 pm Comment from: whatever

I am dumber for having read that...

Wow I'll have what he is smoking - that is some good shit..

Jul 07, 06 - 02:59 pm Comment from: Fred Mertz

Yeah, right, rob, the MacDailyNews guys "just don't get it."

wink

Jul 07, 06 - 03:02 pm Comment from: JadisOne

This time, MDN, you could have left this article in cyberspace.

Jul 07, 06 - 03:03 pm Comment from: Channel Z

Enderle, the first name for Mr. Hankie the Christmas Poo

Jul 07, 06 - 03:04 pm Comment from: huh?

Come on. Admit it, MDN. You only run these Enderle articles as comic relief, right? The guy's a putz, why not just leave it at that.

Only in America can you make a living as a "journalist" by writing fiction. I know, I've seen it many times, in fact a former sports editor/work associate of mine in a local newspaper was terrible about making stuff up all the time in his weekly "column." I called him on it a number of times, to no avail. The editors didn't seem to know the difference. They're creed: "make it entertaining so more people will read it, and you'll be just fine."

Until someone finally sues them, and wins.

Jul 07, 06 - 03:04 pm Comment from: Trevor

Read it all with a laugh.. Nobody takes this guy seriously anyway.

Jul 07, 06 - 03:12 pm Comment from: Friday Follies

I could tell you what I think of RE & the Enderle Group, but I would probably get banned from the site. Besides, little kiddies might be looking at this.
The dude is a troll. That's the nicest thing I can say.

Jul 07, 06 - 03:13 pm Comment from: edward

well, it's true that itunes music store is dominated digital music business, and offer only one format like fairplay 2 (DRM). but they don't know the fact that purchased songs can be easily transferred to mp3 after buring CD.

integrated docking, purchased budles? well, there are tons of thousands products you can buy, dumbass.

not motivated by related products? are you serious? ipod and third party products work together, keep very good business so far. thanks to ipod, third party has made a lot of profit.

finally, where is nonsense apple+ipod? I don't see it. you'd better change the name of company not enderle but elderly. it's the way behind of thinking tech.

Jul 07, 06 - 03:14 pm Comment from: Gregg Thurman

We're constantly amazed that this idiot can somehow make enough cash to buy groceries, pay his mortgage, and provide health care for himself and, presumably, other(s) in his family along with all the rest of the usual expenses.

Enderle suvives on advertising dollars. To keep those advertising dollars he must maintain a constant level of hits.

All he has to do to drive hits is write something the inflames a particular group. He knows very well how to do it.

You want to shut his nonsense up? Don't rise to his bait. Ignore him. Don't give hime the satisfaction of going to his site (hits). Hits decline, advertising dollars decline, and he has to get a real job, producing real results.

Jul 07, 06 - 03:16 pm Comment from: carlo

the bottom line is he's trolling for hits, just dont click on the dickheads site. if you do that, he wins every time, he doesnt care about apple , or have any idea about the industry in general. so f**k him.

Jul 07, 06 - 03:16 pm Comment from: Beryllium

If Enderle claimed that he had personally seen and photographed the second coming of Jesus I still would not give him a page hit.

Jul 07, 06 - 03:18 pm Comment from: readerX

..........a little note to MDN............

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE STOP RUNNING ITEMS THAT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH JOHN DVORAK AND ROB ENDERLE AND PAUL THURROTT FOR THAT MATTER. THEY ALL LOVE THE HITS AND YOU'RE JUST FACILITATING THEM...WHY BOTHER WITH THESE IDIOTS? STOP ENABLING THESE PATHETIC SUBMENTAL BOOBS FOR GODS SAKE. OR WAIT A MINUTE....DOES RUNNING THESE REPORTS HELP YOU WITH YOUR ADVERTISERS, TOO? OH, GOD. PLEASE, TELL ME YOU'RE NOT THAT CHEAP.

Jul 07, 06 - 03:21 pm Comment from: FUDsucker Proxy

He must have attended the Dvorak school for trolls.

Jul 07, 06 - 03:22 pm Comment from: So Enderle's a programmer now

Since nobody looking at this has probably seen the code for FairPlay DRM or the iPod's internal software, how can any half-as*ed Windoze pundit make claims about problems with the FairPlay DRM system.

Yo Rob, Mr Group (him and his wife are the group)

1-If you have seen the above mentioned code without Apple's permission you have violated a number of Federal Laws including the DMCA. You might want to retain legal counsel.

2-If you have not seen the code and are just gassing off at the mouth, STFU.

Since FairPLay is software based, along with the iPod and iTunes, Apple could easily enable a subscription model any time they please from a technical standpoint. The only question would be if their contracts with the record companies allow this.

Jul 07, 06 - 03:26 pm Comment from: The Other Steve

"We're constantly amazed that this idiot can somehow make enough cash to buy groceries, pay his mortgage"

There is a LOT of money to be made by writing stuff that is favors Microsoft and bashes Apple.

Jul 07, 06 - 03:28 pm Comment from: wishful thinking

Oh if only to be able to live in the world of Enderle. Just think, you could say something like "I think Vista will solve the world's problems and lead to peace for all mankind. How do I know this, the aliens from the delta quadrant told me so."

Everyone in Enderleville gets to have Vicadan cocktails mixed in with morphine drips. Did I mention the LSD candy canes?

After your ready for the looney bin, then you get to publish your "fact filled opinion" (a.k.a. stuff I made up while I was high) and call yourself a technical pundit.

Too bad I live in the real world with real news written by people who at least cite their sources.

Jul 07, 06 - 03:30 pm Comment from: Steve Balmer

<<We're constantly amazed that this idiot can somehow make enough cash to buy groceries, pay his mortgage, and provide health care for himself >>

Ahem...he gets quite a sum from our payroll department every week. He's as good a salesman as we have on our payroll.

Jul 07, 06 - 03:33 pm Comment from: Webster's

I looked up Enderlunacy in the dictionary and it was there.

Enderlunacy - The art of pulling supporting facts, that back up your idiotic statements, out of your ass.

Jul 07, 06 - 03:36 pm Comment from: Thumper

YES!! MDN just sent thousands of hits to Enderle's mindless tripe, satisfying his editors and putting food on his table.

You posted the Dvorak video clip; DON'T YOU GET Enderle is playing the same game.

Stop posting this drivel, stop linking to his articles and stop supporting Enderle's rock-'n'-roll lifestyle.

Jul 07, 06 - 03:37 pm Comment from: Steve Chavez

I think it's great that MDN runs these "look at what this moron is saying" columns. First off, I won't have to read the real article, and, when someone else references what one of these idiots is saying, I'll already know where it's coming from. Newbies will sometimes run into these articles and not know any better. Having a website to counter the stupidity helps. I could beat some of these people over the head about how Elderle, Dvorak and that other moron mentioned somewhere on this board are full of $#*%... They won't listen to me. But, they will listen to a website with comments on it..... Go figure....

Steve

Jul 07, 06 - 03:38 pm Comment from: Jim - the independent voter

Didn't enderly have an "anecdotal report" last summer that mac sales were falling off sharply because of the intel switch?

Jul 07, 06 - 03:43 pm Comment from: Mac Realist

Yep...the true end of Apple. No one wants their overpriced MP3 players or their slow computers (Try running Photoshop on rosetta) with bad batteries and crappy displays. It will be interesting to see what Apple will try to do to keep existing customers from switching to Dell or HP before Apple crashes. Too bad for all those investors who paid $80/share for this turkey. They better drop the stock before it goes to zero.

Jul 07, 06 - 03:47 pm Comment from: Fishing for Hits

He is fishing for hits like MDN. You guys are probably buddies passing hits back and forth.

Jul 07, 06 - 03:49 pm Comment from: Bernie

Wow, this place has the angry Apple fanatic image down. "How dare someone say anything bad about iPod, iTunes, Apple, Macintosh, etc." The guy has a few questionable claims, granted, but I've been reading on numerous sites that iPod is "losing it's luster" in Europe.

Jul 07, 06 - 03:52 pm Comment from: Jeff Wisniewski

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Jul 07, 06 - 04:17 pm Comment from: macromancer

Actually MDn should just repost the entire article here so no one will ahve to bother clicking the link to his site.

I for one never click the link since msot of what MDN posts here is more than enough to paint the picture that he's aspiring for the moron of the year award.

Jul 07, 06 - 04:20 pm Comment from: lantzn

Enderle and Dvorak sleep with each other.

That's my take and I'm stickin' to it.

Jul 07, 06 - 04:22 pm Comment from: lantzn

Oh, and Bernie sleeps with them now and then also.

Jul 07, 06 - 04:35 pm Comment from: Steven

Dvorak re-incarnated (sp)... Trolling at it's best, but the scary thing with Rob is that I actually think he believes his nonsense.

Jul 07, 06 - 04:45 pm Comment from: John

Underware, I mean Enderele is a goof ball who knows nothing about tech especially Apple. He is just a windows bigott and that's about it trying to spread FUD. Everytime he writes something on the web about Apple he has no facts to back up anything he claims. I've said it before and I'll say it again, he should write for the enquirer magazine on your grocery news stands, not for anything related to technology.

Jul 07, 06 - 04:46 pm Comment from: MacPinchi

Enderle: what a f*#cking douchebag. Don't waste your time writing to Enderle, you'll only end up wanting to kill him.

I tried to reason with him several months ago; through a long series of emails I realized that he absolutely believes the tripe that he writes, and he further believes that he represents the viewpoint of a fairly large percentage of the population.

He pulls the soft-sell routine in private email. He acts naive, innocent and incredulous that anyone could find his brand of journalism offensive.

I did suggest that he could do the world a favor and throw himself off a cliff. Apparently he didn't take my advice.

MW: justice. How appropriate. If only there were...

Jul 07, 06 - 04:48 pm Comment from: Ryan

The problem with all these people crying "sky is falling" on iPod when it isn't, is that if a real challenger does come along, Apple and customers may not realize it until too late. All because everyone cried wolf too much.

Jul 07, 06 - 05:09 pm Comment from: Nick

MDN clearly works for Enderle - nobody gets him more hits.

Jul 07, 06 - 05:35 pm Comment from: justme2

Hey, Mac "Realist" -- you forgot the [/snark] tag at the end of the post...got to watch those coding errors...

So Apple's supposed to hold up releasing computers until the Gods at Adobe are good and ready to support them? Not likely...

Apple's going to be just fine...Wednesday's San Jose Mercury News had a great article on the Leopard preview at WWDC, with some analysts expecting it to be available DECEMBER 2006, meaning it'll be on practially every computer at MacWorld Expo in January '07, while Micro$oft's vaunted Vista will still be naught but a gleam in Steve Ballmer's eye. And with Leopard well underway to assuage the fears of those who worry that Apple's nothing more than "the iPod Company", who knows what's going on in the iPod creativity studios? (I'm pulling for Bluetooth capability; I could use a pair of wireless headphones...)

MW=show; Apple will show Enderle and Co. that they're full of...

Jul 07, 06 - 05:40 pm Comment from: MikeR

Wait until the 2Q earnings report comes out. That will shut up Enderle for a couple of days.

Jul 07, 06 - 06:06 pm Comment from: No Kool Aid here

Mac posters sound like really violent people judging from the posts above. This is surprising considering the lack of decent violent games for the Mac, too.

Jul 07, 06 - 07:15 pm Comment from: Macview

Please don't make me publish this again Enderele is Batboy!

Jul 07, 06 - 07:17 pm Comment from: Mike

There has also been a lot of negative news out on iPods breaking and monopolistic practices in certain geographies (like France) which has undoubtedly created some purchase drag," Enderle explains."

This guy is a complete MORON.

Enderle, find me one person that has ever thought about getting an iPod, and then saw a news story about iPods and Frances recent "iTunes" law, and were completely dissuaded.

You can't, because it has never happened, you imbecile.

Jul 07, 06 - 07:18 pm Comment from: b

at least he says it anecdotal evidence. but from the nature of of his discussion, I don't think he knows what anecdotal means or what it's statistical implications are. Which of course is unthinkable for analyst .

Jul 07, 06 - 07:20 pm Comment from: Macview

Sorry this site didn't like my link try this
http://homepage.mac.com/cpearson/comiclife/Page_1.jpg
Batboy

Jul 07, 06 - 08:40 pm Comment from: i heart macdude

Enderle--posterboy for cognitive dissonance grin

Jul 07, 06 - 10:08 pm Comment from: Ampar

It could be worse. Enderle could have released his secret self-portrait, bikini calendar.

Jul 07, 06 - 11:21 pm Comment from: BrooklynNYC

You can all comment on the original article by innundating this idiot with e-mails:

<a >renderle@ enderlegroup.com</a>

Jul 08, 06 - 01:03 am Comment from: Mozfan

I've read recent anecdotal reports that Rob Enderle has still not grown a brain despite huge gains in medical technology.

Strangely enough, these reports come from Enderle himself in the form of his brainless rants.

And at least I can point to actual evidence of the anecdotal reports I mention...


~M

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