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I'm gonna wait and see before I believe anything she says

She or a proxy bought in at 118. Now she's trying to manipulate it so she can short. That's what I think.

However, if it is true, boo yah.

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

Walt mossberg said it

Yes! I'm reaching for my wallet...

If this is in fact true, it is huge. No matter what we think of MS, the iPhone just became more of an "enterprise" device with this move.

SWEET!!!! I hope its true!!!

"If this is in fact true, it is huge. No matter what we think of MS, the iPhone just became more of an "enterprise" device with this move."

I would have rather sat back and watched legions of MS IT drones scramble around in a snit as their customers (the people they work for) demand they make the iPhone work with their networks.

What macromancer said.

There's quite of bit of contention between those who want to work and those who want others to work on their terms.

Don't be juvenile. Making the iPhone work with Exchange is one of the things that would keep it out of the hands of millions. If this story is true it's a brilliant move on Apple's part.

I, of course, have no inside information on this matter, but I'm coming to the conclusion that this IS NOT going to happen. Of course, when it happens - as early as tomorrow - I'll look pretty stupid, but here is my reasoning.

Initially is sounds like a huge win for the iPhone to support Microsoft's Enterprise. I read several comments under the original article that essentially felt it was a game changer and would move several business professionals to buy the iPhone. This would remove another barrier and might boost the iPhone's initial sales further into the stratosphere.

But I do not believe Apple want to bolster a proprietary system, especially one that is owned by Microsoft. The iPhone is going to be huge. If the enourmous pre-sale hype hasn't been enough to convince, you, look at the extremely positive initial reviews. Apple has the leverage to break business free of Enterprise. The alternative - being reliant upon Microsoft to broker their way into the business world - is simply unacceptable.

It's an arrogant and risky view. But I believe it accurately reflects Apple's position.

I'm still betting on Apple releasing a special version of OS X Server with an iPhone Server feature to compete with the similar corporate Blackberry server software.

"iPhone Server feature "

It's already there, in all versions of OS X Server that have shipped to date. It's called an IMAP server. To turn it on, you check the box that says "be a mail server".

Blackberry invented their own half-assed reimplementation of e-mail. Apple uses the standards.

-jcr

Problem is that MaryJo knows nothing about ActiveSync. ActiveSync does not sync with Exchange it allows a device (pda, phone) to sync with OUTLOOK. There is a HUGE difference, especially when you're talking wireless internet access from your phone (ie. does you no good if you're not connected to your PC which runs Outlook). Duh.

I want an iPhone and don't mind the price tag, but I am waiting for 3G. It's only a matter of time. Mossberg and most of the "intelligent" reviews all say that the EDGE network is painfully slow.

Thanks for playing. YOU appear to be the one who "knows nothing about ActiveSync". Current Exchange implementations do infact allow for wireless syncing via ActiveSync. Stop being so elitist when you don't even know what you are talking about.

Dvorass is going to hang himself!

hey jay edge is more than enough for email
fair on web browsing
3g is hugly expensive ..un needed by 99 percent of the puplic
also we dont have the option not to pay for rhe 3g modem in our phones

its the biggest scandal of the 21 century.. the companies paid 50 bilion for a marketing flop "the 3g license and equipment"so to get thier mony back they make u pay a huge sum for the 3g modem in the handset which U DONT USE

I'm not sure what value there is in posting anything Mary Jo Foley has to say. Her credibility is completely nullified by the Leopard vs. Vista article, which is utterly laughable due to its utter disregard for anything resembling fact. I find it hard believe that she is able to maintain gainful employment as a journalist given that piece.

An Exchange connector means nothing. Without an ability to centrally control the devices via a server based corporate policy, (i.e. remote data wipe, domain authentication, password complexity policy) it will never make it through the door. No way that any sane corporation is going to let company email & data live unsupervised on unmanaged devices. Oh right, and you need to deploy iTunes to all the company desktops. Pfffffft.

@macromancer

I'm with you and "Someone Else', except I threw up a lot.

I suspect this is another FUD attempt. Goes something like this... hopes rise, then fall with a crash (when it's proven to be false). And then Apple and iPhone will be criticized forever (in certain circles) for NOT doing this. FUD success: Further highlighting another hole in the iPhone's ability.

It's not in SJ's DNA to do something like this MS license, is my guess.

Her credibility is completely nullified by the Leopard vs. Vista article

Yet MDN keeps posting about articles from Dvorak, Enderle, Thurott, etc. etc., etc.

Foley's articles will still be mentioned, if only for comic value.

I just dukeed a little bit in my shorts.

To synch a Windows Mobile phone with Exchange, you use ActiveSync to synch it with Outlook, which is an Exchange client. Unless the corporation is not using Exchange, synching with Outlook and synching with Exchange are the same thing.

Microsoft licenses ActiveSync to all comers; there is no criterion by which they could legitimately refuse to sell a license to Apple.

If the iPhone uses ActiveSync, there is no way the IT department can know that anyone is synching with an iPhone unless someone tells them, and they can't prevent it, except by issuing a memo; however, since ActiveSync is involved, there is nothing for the administrator to learn or do. If they found out that someone was synching with an iPhone, they'd probably just shrug their shoulders. What difference does it make? To Exchange, it's just another PDA.

If Apple licenses ActiveSync, iPhone can invade the enterprise under the radar. Microsoft can't do a thing about it without someone shrieking "monopoly"!

Steve could say to Bill, "Game, set, and match."

Hussein

Where is the best place to learn about 3G? I admit my knowledge of 3G is limited. I just don't want to spend $600 on in iPhone and get frustratingly slow internet.

Who knows if that's wasn't what it was all about? Wouldn't Microsoft benefit more from licensing Exchange to the best mobile hardware. Especially compared to it's money-pit music player.
MS didn't hurt iPod sales when it came out. But it hurt a lot of everybody else. Wouldn't they make more on Exchange than they'd ever make on some also-ran hardware? (Like they do?)

I still contend that the Zune is a device intended to kill off everyone BUT the iPod.

billy, billy, billy, o h h h h billy…

I hope she is sleeping with a better source this week.....

Walt Mossberg said "compatible with exchange by enabling a setting on the server." What's the bet that that setting is simply enabling Exchanges IMAP support?

Jay

http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/aws/index.php?p=i

Mary Jo is a real Moo. I've seen more honest writing on public toilet walls.

Ummm...Walt Mossberg already established this fact in his review. Case closed, the end.

Who cares, exchange sucks anyway, and the last thing I want is a work leash.

My experience in setting up various pdas for exchange activesync is that if your exchange provides outlook web access, you are set and don't need anything from frick and frack down in IT. So if you can check your outlook via a web browser, you can use your iphone (apparently) with exchange activesync and set it up yourself. And in my experience, that's 50% of exchange users. The other 50 are going to need a certificate from the exchange admin/dork.

It's not true. She's inventing it because she wants to create disappointment when it gets "axed" by the evil Apple.

This move only bolsters Redmond's Exchange server and position. Rather, Apple will let all those consumers who work in corporate offices, put pressure on their IT departments to make the phone just work. That will of course be with IMAP becoming an open, approved standard in many IT departments.

iPhone is only going to erode Redmond's game, not bolster it.

I know nothing about this exchange or 3G shit.

Should that hamper me from making inane pronouncements about both?

Blackberry is half-assed?

Dude...

Mary Jo says it? Oh, it must be true, then.

Maybe this is her way of implying it "should" have (on the instructions of Redmond). Then, if it doesn't, she's engineered a let-down.

It's got POP and IMAP; it doesn't need Microsoft's proprietary crap. Better people stop using stuff that only works with one vendor's products, and start using open standards.

About Mary Jo,

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. She may have slipped up this time and gotten something right. It will be possible to synch the iPhone with Exchange, it's just a matter of whether or not it's by way of ActiveSync.

It's already possible to sync Macs with Exchange without the system administrator configuring anything. I have a third-party application that I have used to synch my MacBook Pro with Exchange at work without the system administrator knowing, helping, or caring about it.

I think it would be a relatively trivial development effort for Apple to license and implement ActiveSync on the iPhone. Whether or not they do it depends on their marketing strategy. They don't need it to get sales. On the one hand, it lets them invade a new market segment. On the other, it plays into a proprietary protocol.

She could be right.

This makes sense. Imagine what it must be like at Microsoft. "Hey Billy Gates and Steve Balless, look we can sell a licence and make some money. It will keep all that extra Vista staff happy."

okay... so i hope it's true...

but i refuse to believe a word of what that bitch publishes.

sorry for my harsh words - but her last article about OS X being a copy of Vista kinda sorta really ticked me off.

Is Exchange ActiveSync a web standard? I don't think so. I can't see Apple licensing anything from Microsoft.

Apple says that the iPhone will adhere to web standards and that enterprises that use web standards need to do nothing th accomodate iPhone.

The reality here is that Exchange is widely used "corporate standard". Activesync works very well, Apple would benefit from supporting a widely used platform/vendor protocol.

For me and millions of others not fully supporting Exchange is a deal breaker.

This is now confirmed! Here's a blog from Microsoft that talks about it
http://blogs.msdn.com/mithund/archive/2007/07/04/apple-licensing-microsoft-s-exchange-activesync-protocol-for-the-iphone.aspx