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May 07, 08 - 10:44 am Comment from: jjjj

this is gonna be big!

May 07, 08 - 10:44 am Comment from: Cubert

Get on the stock now while it's only $187!

australia hugely populous? I think there's like 16 million people there. This guy needs to check his facts

Let the Mother of all BLOODBATHS begin!!!!!!!!!!

@johnson: learn to read... he said hugely populous india AND australia.

@ johnsson
exactly my thoughts.
California is way bigger than Australia.

India is by any standards 'hugely populous'!
It's comprehension lessons, not reading lessons, that some folk need.

MDN what type of bubble bath would you recommend?

Blood orange? Red Currant? Tomato juice? Strawberry Wot? WOT?

May 07, 08 - 10:59 am Comment from: auren

KACHING !!!!!

The wording is a bit ambiguous. I don't think anyone would argue that India is "populous", but if he's referring to the two combined then Australia is a drop in the ocean in terms of numbers and kind of odd to lump in with India. If he's calling them both "populous" individually then that's just wrong. It's big but not full. Of course that's not to say it isn't a valuable market.

And so the second stage of apples battleplan against the smartphone market begins. This will be a crippling blow.

May 07, 08 - 11:02 am Comment from: cptnkirk

Australia in 20 million and change. Half the population of Canada, 1/3 the population of France or Germany.

May 07, 08 - 11:06 am Comment from: ChrissyOne

I think he meant "Australia and hugely populous India".

But it's still a bit clumsy.

G'day!

I knew it!!! And don't forget there's always one more thing

Howzabout --

"...Australia and hugely populous India."

May 07, 08 - 11:12 am Comment from: The Other Steve

Shhhhhhhhhhh

iPhone 2.0 is suppose to be a secret!

If Steve (the other one) found out this got out he'd flip!

May 07, 08 - 11:15 am Comment from: Jubei

I bet MS will try and trump the rollout from Apple by introducing a new Zune. Lets see, yeah a new color, like yellow. LOL

May 07, 08 - 11:16 am Comment from: MizuInOz

And Australia is still the lucky country - 85% of the population is 35 km from the beach!

And the highest number of public holidays of any country in the world...

AND we do not have to pay for incoming calls or text messages.

AND I can't wait to have a 3G iPhone... with no AT&T;attached!

BTW - heaps of jailbroken iPhones here.

Cheers... (also the highest consumption of beer per capita in the world)...

It is ChrissyOne!!!!!

Hi ChrissyOne!

May 07, 08 - 11:17 am Comment from: iWill

Feel the Earth turning? This could be ' u g e !
BTW, when's the Esperanto version arriving?

May 07, 08 - 11:29 am Comment from: Ampar

"BTW, when's the Esperanto version arriving?"

It will be released in front of the U.N. as soon as William Shatner finishes recording the new promotional ballad from his ranch studio.

Sadly, it's also some of the most boring beer in the world. Unless it's changed in the last few years, there are no boutique brewing houses in the entire country. *sniff*


<snip>
Cheers... (also the highest consumption of beer per capita in the world)...

May 07, 08 - 11:36 am Comment from: Ampar

I'm sure the Aussies can berra the criticism. Only a few will roo not getting an iPhone at the rollout.

May 07, 08 - 11:40 am Comment from: iamdj

Wow! I can MAC news here AND and take a creative writing course at the same time. (sheeesh)

May 07, 08 - 11:42 am Comment from: iamdj

oops! Left out the word "get" and double the word "and". Here come the english teachers!

Ahh... the Commonwealth countries. Ghandi... and ... uh... er... hmm... the Crocodile Hunter? MW: far!

May 07, 08 - 12:05 pm Comment from: BC Kelly

To lamdj, and others

'Creative writing' concerns telling stories, fiction, poetry, etc

What we're talking about here is fairly standard 8th Grade English Composition

If you're going to use a modifier - adjective/adverb - in conjunction with a conjunction - and/or - then you need to put the modifier in proper position to indicate which noun/subject is being modified

Now, if you were writing it in Spanish/French/Latin/etc - then the position wouldn't matter because the 'endings' of the words involved will change according to which words are connected. So you could put the words anywhere and although the sentence may not be elegant, it will at least be logically correct


And for the record, I am not an English Teacher, but I have studied the subject most of my life to learn how to talk and write in a fashion that won't reveal my head is totally up my ass


Thanks, BC

May 07, 08 - 12:05 pm Comment from: Macintosh

Bring it on! Damn, I wish I bought more AAPL a few month back when in was below $120.

Easy to say now I guess.

May 07, 08 - 12:15 pm Comment from: ElderNorm

Why oh Why do I see it coming..... AGAIN???


There is the big build up for Apple events (this time in June).
iPhone will be KING.
More Mac sales,
etc, etc etc

Everyone gets on the band wagon. Stock prices climb big and then after some really great things (but still no Anti-gravity or iPhone light saber) Apple stock takes a hit.

Me, I am taking the month off and going somewhere away from technology fevor.

en

The problem with the phrase 'hugely populous' is that it is a tautology; 'populous' means heavily populated, so to add 'hugely' is redundant.

Of course, by putting 'and' between India and Australia, he had joined them together in their hugely populous-ness.
Its the conjunction 'and' that screws the meaning, and the redundant 'hugely' that starts the collapse of the sentence.

He was massively and hugely excited, of course, thats why his words tumbled out that way.

English teachers, for the record, NEVER get excited.

May 07, 08 - 12:25 pm Comment from: Buster

....how about ....underpopulated Australia and over-populated India?

@Grand vizier...English teachers never get excited.... THAT explains a few things

May 07, 08 - 12:35 pm Comment from: Ampar

If you subtract Dell support centers, India and Australia are about equal.

May 07, 08 - 12:47 pm Comment from: Buster

@Ampar...damn that was funny

@Ampar

bing

Bing?

what the..........

BingO

India has huge population ( 1 billion ++) as well as huge mobile usage. For us incoming, SMS are free of charge and minimum prepaid monthly charge is Rs 10 ( 20 cents). So, every tom, dick and harry owns a phone in India. Every 6 months, people buy a new cell phone ( used cell phones business is big) and iphone will be a success for sure. I can't wait to buy one.

May 07, 08 - 01:41 pm Comment from: Ampar

"English teachers never get excited.... THAT explains a few things"

It certainly explains the dwindling number of English teachers.

BING!

May 07, 08 - 01:49 pm Comment from: UltraVisitor

I wonder if they'll add more RAM to the new iPhone. Its my understanding that a the lack memory causes crashes when listening to music and using Safari simultaneously.

May 07, 08 - 02:11 pm Comment from: El Guapo

@BC Kelly

I have studied the subject most of my life to learn how to talk and write in a fashion that won't reveal my head is totally up my ass

That should be, "won't reveal that my head is totally up my ass.

P.S.
In Spanish the order also matters.

In light of our current discussion about adjectives and the like, I feel that this quote from Clue (1985) is just too perfect not to post...

Mrs. White: ... a lunatic! He actually didn't seem to like me very much; he had threatened to kill me in public.
Miss Scarlet: Why would he want to kill you in public?
Wadsworth: I think she meant he threatened, in public, to kill her.

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May 07, 08 - 02:39 pm Comment from: nanisani

This is the kind of linguistic nit-picking up with which I will not put!

May 07, 08 - 02:48 pm Comment from: Ampar

To nanisani:

Nice!



Let's try to eschew obfuscation, shall we?

"hugely populous India and Australia"

20 million Australians, about the same as hugely populous Madagascar.

@The Muffin Man, u would be right if there was a comma after India, but Evans clearly separates India and Australia from the "smaller" countries like Egypt 75 million, Turkey 70 M, Italy 60 Million, SA 47 M etc)

it's a mistake u can't deny it.

May 07, 08 - 03:35 pm Comment from: BC Kelly

Comment from: El Guapo
@BC Kelly

"I have studied the subject most of my life to learn how to talk and write in a fashion that won't reveal my head is totally up my ass

That should be, "won't reveal that my head is totally up my ass.

P.S.
In Spanish the order also matters."


El Gaupo - although I'd have to look it all up to remember exactly - merely meant to infer that the Romance Languages, as compared to the English/Germanic, are 'inflective', or vice versa.

Also - perhaps it would have been more grammatically correct for me to have said, " ... write in a fashion WHICH won't reveal my head is totally up my ass."




Thanks, BC


P.S. - how I'd fix the original sentence:

... hugely populous India, and Australia.

That comma can make all the difference.

May 07, 08 - 03:38 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ Crabapple

HI there! Just stopping by for a quick appearance. Too much work for me to keep up on my internets like I used ta' could.

May 07, 08 - 03:45 pm Comment from: Ampar

So, maybe Australia is just louder than India?

Oi! Oi! Oi!

(j/k)

May 07, 08 - 03:47 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ BC Kelly
"That comma can make all the difference."

Sometimes you're so comma'n

@ MizuinOZ

"Cheers... (also the highest consumption of beer per capita in the world)..."

Sorry old chap, Wiki has the Aussies as #4. Unless you have been doing some MAJOR drinking per capita since these #s came out in '04.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_beer_consumption_per_capita

May 07, 08 - 03:51 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

Our puns used to amuse my girlfriend.

But I'm afraid our India jokes 'Noida.