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Dec 15, 09 - 04:59 pm Comment from: Snow Leopard

Wow. Simply wow.

Dec 15, 09 - 04:59 pm Comment from: AlanAudio

"Now they're all anyone talks about anymore," John C. Dvorak writes for PC Magazine.

So after moaning that everybody is talking about the iPhone, what is Dvorak choosing to talk about ? The iPhone of course.

Dec 15, 09 - 05:01 pm Comment from: Ytseman3

I guess he doesn't mind "wasting time" waiting for windows to reboot because it blue screened, or wasting time scanning for viruses and such.

Face it Dvorak is wasting your and my time...

Dec 15, 09 - 05:04 pm Comment from: m159

Talk about " inane, useless, unnecessary." That's Dvorak.

The iPhone makes people vastly more productive. That it can also be used effectively for time-wasting is also true of automobiles, television, and reading Dvorak's column.

He never has anything good to say about any Apple product.

Wow, I just wasted more time reading this stupid article than I've ever wasted on my iPhone. Lame.

Or, to sum up the article:

Get off my lawn!

He just wasted my time as well!!!!

Dec 15, 09 - 05:09 pm Comment from: Anim8me2

Wow, I guess Dvorak must fixate on the shallow and vapid.
I surf the web on my phone for information on any number of things.
I use it for directions. I use it to communicate with others in my field and when I talk on my iPhone it is for business or family matters. There are of course occasions when I have this thing called a "conversation", to others not involved it might seem inane, but I am sure that Dvorak has deep discussions about Sartre and other things of depth that I could never appreciate.

I guess his comments have come about because he's gone to use his phone and maybe couldn't get a connection (or it kept dropping out), but how I choose to use, or waste, my time on my iphone is my business, and I don't need a gas-bag like this telling me otherwise.

Dec 15, 09 - 05:10 pm Comment from: Mo

So what! This is how people use cell phones...to socialize and relax...maybe they should ban people talking or playing games on their iPhones since it is clearly wrecking society. Maybe we should start burning certain books as well if they don't serve any purpose aside from idle enjoyment.

Dvorak = 1984

Actually Dvorak has been talking about moving to mac. I never thought I'd see the day, it's shocking after years of bashing Apple at every opportunity.

Dec 15, 09 - 05:11 pm Comment from: Predrag

I think this is his attempt at being sarcastic. He can't possibly be serious about it.

Same old John, still full of shit.

Dec 15, 09 - 05:12 pm Comment from: sparkplug

Oh, like he's never heard of FACEBOOK! Sheeeesh.

Dec 15, 09 - 05:12 pm Comment from: clinicaltechmaster

Hit whor*.

Obviously, this article is somewhat satirical and borderline ironic.

Dec 15, 09 - 05:14 pm Comment from: Mac-nugget

Sure, I wast time that otherwise would be all ready waisted. Like in the waiting room at the doctors office. Or while waiting to get your driver license. Now what would you wall watching T.V. or telling stories around a camp fire?? Or slipping for that matter.

I try to use my time wisely. I dont' watch more then maybe a couple of hours of TV a week, if that. I attempt to read or learn with my free time. Or I dedicate it to my kids by playing with them.

Just like Charles Manson said, "Now is the only time that is real".

So you better get busy.

Dec 15, 09 - 05:15 pm Comment from: G4Dualie

This from a man who's bathroom has never seen a book or magazine!

I'm inclined to think John Dvorak sits on the can wearing a thousand-meter stare for ten minutes.

Me? I multitask like nobody's business when sitting on the can.

PS I apologize for putting that image of Dvorak in your minds. Except you R2, as I'm sure you may have been aroused.

Dec 15, 09 - 05:17 pm Comment from: Cascadians

Of course one would really have to read that snippet on one's iPhone to do the time wasting full irony.

I listen to audiobooks...and ponder ways to take over the world.

Dec 15, 09 - 05:20 pm Comment from: Superior Being

Mac-nugget: "Sure, I wast time that otherwise would be all ready waisted."

You've certainly never wasted any time on learning how to spell correctly.

At least, on some level it's somehow a notch better than the crap Enderle spouts forth on desperate need to get some hits for the holiday marketing for his wife..er fellow analyst.

But both of them are clean as angels compared to people who endlessly twit and blog about a blogger who has a desperate need to leech off/impersonate a famous CEO to feel relevant.

Reminds me of another professional curmudgeon:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/01/07/60minutes/rooney/main665523.shtml

what an unt with a c on the front.

I like what he says. He hits the nail right on the thumb.

Dec 15, 09 - 05:24 pm Comment from: ndelc

He sounds like an old codger who is angry because the world has left him behind. Strange attitude for a tech writer.

Dec 15, 09 - 05:27 pm Comment from: Msavwah

A little off topic but concerning wasted bandwidth

is there not yet a way to turn off safari auto refresh on the iPhone?

I still find this highly irritating and recently wondered how much bandwidth could be saved if the millions of iPhones didn't all do the same thing.
Just a thought.....

Stuart - "Obviously, this article is somewhat satirical and borderline ironic."


No. it isn't. He really means it. You don't understand. This is John C. Dvorak. The man with such a profound lack of vision he actually said, in 1984:

"The Macintosh uses an experimental pointing device called a 'mouse.' There is no evidence that people want to use these things."

He hates Apple, is jealous to the point of psychosis and will fabricate reality around his infantile wish for Apple to just disappear.

One can pity him only by assuming that over the years he has lost a shit ton of money investing in anything but AAPL.

Actually I think Dvorak is right on this one, my experience is also that the vast majority of phone calls and texting is a complete waste of time. But I think it is revealing: could it be this is just bringing out that Americans really don't have anything better to do with their time than to call a friend and spend ten minutes telling them they are standing in front of a store watching cars park?

Oh how fun for John, He criticizes Apple and the iPhone as being a failure to be in 2007.
Link : http://www.marketwatch.com/story/apple-should-pull-the-plug-on-the-iphone

Added to the Hypocrisy of being a tech pundit as he clams to be, he fails again to see the real culture that is iPhone.

John D is a dinosaur, he has filed to adjust with the changing times and in turn keeps putting his head between his legs trying to stimulate some real story.

This is common for John D, Since he was dissed by Apple years ago he has still held a grudge, This is the reason why good old fashioned reporting has fallen into the hands of a select few that have at one time been leaders in the tech reporting field of 15 years ago, now only drying up old bones dimwits "Dvorak" so eager to get a Leading story only to prove that the once insightful reporting years ago has turned into a series of Gum smacking senile nonsense.

Dvorak 1984-2009 HASBEEN and never will be again.

Dec 15, 09 - 05:29 pm Comment from: Macdoc

PC Mag is still "PC Mag" no matter how popular Apple becomes!

Dec 15, 09 - 05:31 pm Comment from: MidWest Mac

Well, actually the tech sector would look really damn bleak right now without Apple.

So if anything the iPhone is providing a silver lining for the country — not dooming it.

Geez, I actually took the time to think about this moron's spew of an article. I feel really gross suddenly.

Didn't he used to fill in the extra 30 seconds at the end of a weekly broadcast television show around 20 years ago? Sorry, my mistake... maybe someone should sue him over IP rights? No, that presumes there's something intellectual to protect. Um, impersonating a real celebrity without a license? Maybe he's ZuneTang in disguise?

Dec 15, 09 - 05:33 pm Comment from: ron

However great the iPhone is for real communication, many idiots seem to be talking ALL the time - often while driving. Yak Yak Yak, mindless Yak. In this respect, Dvorak (wanker) is correct.

Does anyone else see the irony of a web journalist decrying what a waste the web is?

Yes, that time they could otherwise spend "wasting" time playing on their laptop or looking at a wall or not talking to anyone around them.

"The economy has tanked in proportion to the growing popularity of the iPhone. This is no coincidence, as far as I'm concerned."

Yes, you heard it here first folks. All the other stuff you read about what caused the global economic crisis was just a ruse planted by Apple.

Another reason that the world doesn't need CRAPPLE little phone

I use my iPhone to keep track of my daily schedule, to stay in touch friends and family via email/IM/Facebook/etc., and to take care of business (paying bills, mainly) online. Oh, yeah, and once in a while I call people with it, too.

Sure, there's also games and other "wasting time" type stuff I can do, but it's usually more in the "killing time" category - like standing in line at Subway, playing a quick game like Jumbline until it's my turn to order, or reading a blog or two while waiting for a haircut.

How does Dvorak know so much about what "everyone" is doing on their smartphones, anyway? Is he looking over everyone's shoulders to judge whether or not they're doing something productive? Sheesh.

The bigger waste of time is listening to Dvorak's rants. I wonder if John's family background has some Amish or Luddite in it. Here's a guy that was a Windows lacky for so many years, talk about wasting time & energy! John endorsed them as they continued to produce crappy products. The gig is up John. Time t pack up your crap and go home.

Dec 15, 09 - 05:38 pm Comment from: alansky

Dear John Dvorak,

Eat sh*t.

Love,

An Old Admirer

John is an antagonist who writes great comedy about technology. When viewed as anything else, one overestimates his talent while missing the point.

Dec 15, 09 - 05:45 pm Comment from: Galloway

I used to hate Dvorak. He's certainly the crankiest tech writer on the planet, but after listening to him week after week on TWiT I've grown to like his occasional bon mot and more than occasional reality check on that show for the other full-of-themselves tech "journalists" chasing after the latest shiny thing. I still only agree with him ~40% of the time, but I think you have to listen to him to appreciate him, not read him in print.

Face it - Dvorak is on crack.

He's a hit-whore looking for a score ...

Technically speaking it isn't time that is being wasted, but rather one's life and that of course is relative.

Some would argue that spending time web browsing or chatting on an iPhone is a heck of a lot better than say deciding to pick a country at random, insult it, invade it and kill their leader, but those certainly would not be Dvorak compatriots.

So I think he is offering a great challenge when he says "Maybe a killer app will arise and make my complaints moot."

I can just see it now, some young man calling his mother on the iPhone, getting her to locate him in some foreign on the GPS and watching the red dots around him disappear as he uses his new iXterminator ray now built into the iPhone.

That will sure help the economy.

Dec 15, 09 - 05:57 pm Comment from: iSteve

He is just cranky because he has nearly a year to waste until Windows Mobile 7 comes out.

There are a few things that I agree with him about...

First, there is really no third-party "Killer App" that makes me go, "Damn! I'm going to go buy an iPhone/Android/Palm/RIM so I can use that!" (Although Google Nav comes close). I'm sure John feels the same way.

That said, there may be Apps that, for certain people, they see it and go buy an iPhone/Android/Palm/RIM for it. I have my "Killer App" that I'm working on for iPhone that I know a certain group of people will be tripping over each other to buy. It may not be a huge group, but they'll want it.

Remember, the only people who were really excited about VisiCalc were accountants.

peecee mag must of desperately needed to fill space to even consider letting this gasbag stench be associate with their name!

Dec 15, 09 - 06:11 pm Comment from: The Other Steve

Boy, the guy sure knows how to grab attention, even when he isn't saying anything.

As a Photojournalist, I have to say my iPhone is the most useful and indispensable device I own!

Next to my camera, and the iPhone is still a very close second.

"Nearly every time I overhear a phone conversation, the chit-chat is almost always inane, useless, unnecessary."

"And when people are not too busy needlessly chattering on the phone, they're sending messages to all of their friends for no apparent reason"

who is this guy to judge seriously? who died and made him king?

Actually, after a year of iphone ownership and tons of apps. What I do most with it (outside of core tasks like phone, email, music, text and web)...is read. Stanza and Kindle. It's my main book reader now and I sincerely hope all written media goes the way of itunes.

For the record, if Amazon has ANY sense, they'll realize that it's not the Kindle, IT'S THE STORE. If they make that store go everywhere, they'll be iTunes for books.

But the apple tablet is around the corner.....