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Dec 29, 09 - 04:03 pm Comment from: Swing Geezer

I'm getting tired of pointless rubbish like this.

Dec 29, 09 - 04:07 pm Comment from: 84 Mac Guy

The list seems reasonable wiht a few modifications:

1. Keyboard - as MDN states, who decides what is useful?

6. Appeal to Enterprise customers - why? If it is great, employees will bring it to work and force businesses to adopt it, like the iPhone.

7. ...not treat it like Apple TV - WTF? Apple TV is waiting for content, which will come soon enough.

9. 3G option - how 2009. How about a 4G/WiMax option.

And since I dumped on #6, here is my #6:

Run OS X with the ability to run iPhone apps. That would be the best of both worlds.

No shit Sherlock ...

Dec 29, 09 - 04:12 pm Comment from: TheMacAdvocate

An Apple product needs "True Apple design". What a shitshow eWeek is.

Dec 29, 09 - 04:19 pm Comment from: Applejuice

Pardon me for asking, but why does this idiotic article even make the cut at such a classy spot as MDN?

Have you noticed some of the keys to success on the list?
2. App Store integration -- a given

3. A responsive display -- a given

4. True Apple design -- probably the dumbest item listed

5. Uniqueness -- again, a given

6. Appeal to enterprise users -- really, when was the lat time Apple directly targeted the Enterprise? Do they really need to?

7. Apple's support -- again, idiotic. Why wouldn't Apple support their own product, even when it's classified as a "hobby"?

8. iPhone's intuitive multitouch gestures -- a given

9. A 3G option -- if its an option then it's not a deal breaker

10. A vision -- OMG. I can't take it any more.

MDN, please do us a favor. Do not link to this type of stuff that adds absolutely NOTHING.

All this great knowledge, using loosely, and yet they can not build a damn thing themselves. They can only comment!

Talk that means nothing until a shipping product appears and even the great parts of the iPhone they never believed would work or put on a list that would be the killer features needed to suceed in the market. So their it is, worthless info from the unknowning.

another example of an american journalist with nothing useful to say and saying it anyway...

Why is it that people with only 4-5 things to say still have a strong desire to create a list of 10?

Here's my list

1. A screen
2. A way to "work widdit" (With fingers, stylus, don't care how. Anything Apple does will be great just don't make it just sit there... like.... y'know... one-a them photo frame thangs)
3. No razor sharp edges
4. Not smeared with poop
5. No Windows or Linux (I MEAN IT!!!)
6. No lack of battery (I want to be able to use it without it being connected ta nuthin')
7. A back side (Most screens have some sort of back part behind the glassy colory thing. Just want to state that I'd rather it have a back than be some form of exotic shape that has a front, no back and razor sharp two-d sides that might cut ya... see number 3)
8. Pornable. That is, I have to be able to view porn on it
9. PORN-able. Really, this one deserves two
10. No lack of not having a non-Apple logo (Can I make it any plainer?)

I guarantee that when it comes out, you can look at the list above and see that this PERFECTLY matches it. F'reals, yo.

Heres my top 10.

1 Its gotta blow the users mind.
2 Its gotta be addictive and fun to use.
3 Its gotta blast away the competitors.
4 Its gotta deter would be cloners from even trying.
5 Its gotta be very, very useful.
6 Its gotta make you want to have it with you at all times.
7 Its gotta be smart and upmarket looking.
8 Its gotta have universal appeal.
9 Its gotta be the gadget to be seen with.
10 Its gotta be really truly amazing.

See how easy journalism can be!

Dec 29, 09 - 04:50 pm Comment from: silverhawk

@Wrong Again
I think you can replace old Don a eWeek.

I predict that Apple will announce new products in the coming new year. They will also sell more computers than last year and net income will grow.
Hey, this is easy.

Dec 29, 09 - 04:58 pm Comment from: jjjj

We don't need a stinkin' keyboard...

Dec 29, 09 - 04:59 pm Comment from: thethirdshoe

features an Apple tablet must have to succeed

It only needs one.

It IS an incredible device. (Just like the iPhone IS)

I read a similar article that actually talks about features rather than just uniqueness, Apple support,and a vision. The five features in the article will really make the tablet a success. the link to the article is:

http://techztalk.com/techwebsite/12-29-09-5-must-have-features-for-upcoming-apple-tablet-islate

Dec 29, 09 - 05:08 pm Comment from: Ray

Of course Reisinger as a technical anal-ist knows more than Steve Jobs about what Apple needs to succeed.....

just my $0.02

I started typing before reading any other comments, but what the heck, here's my take.

1. Let's just agree to define anything with a keyboard a laptop. It certainly can't be a tablet with a keyboard, so they can all shut up about a keyboard. (either that or just call it a Kindle)

2. Duhh!!

3. Duhh!! (again)

4. Duhh!! (This is getting repetitive.)

5. Duhh!! (This is getting repetitive.)

6. Debatable

7. Debatable. But if Apple does come out with this type of product, in the environment that has developed around the concept (much like the iPhone hype) then you can be certain that they will be behind it. The expectation is simply too high, and Apple knows it, and they have a plan for making the product a huge success. They've done the research and they have the pieces in place.

8. Oh, crap. Duhh!!! (again)

9. Debatable. It depends on what Apple's focus is.

10. Duhh!!! (and that's saying it politely)

All Reisinger has done is take his 10 top reasons he thinks it will fail, and rewritten them with a neutral spin to make them less inflammatory. Clearly I've wasted my time reading them, and certainly wasted my time commenting.

Oh, let's see:

An FM tuner.
A "real" keyboard, you know, like my Treo 600.
Ability to "squirt" files.
Native support for all XBox 360 games.
A TRS-80 emulator.
Real Basic.
Floppy drive.

Without all these features, Apple will surely fail. How do I know? I'm a consultant. Just like it says on the business card I just printed up.

Dec 29, 09 - 05:27 pm Comment from: ken1w

That a stupid list.

Except for #1, everything listed is obvious. #5 "Uniqueness"? Just about every major product Apple releases is unique is some important way. That's why they are successful and can command high profit margins.

Dec 29, 09 - 05:29 pm Comment from: Hm...

I remember when eWeek used to have a decent article or two. Sigh. No longer. They're like the Wall Street Journal now.

@Mike

Love the TRS-80 reference..

I cant believe the crapola these places publish. I cant wait till this device see's the light of day so we can stop listening to all the supposition..

Dec 29, 09 - 06:01 pm Comment from: mackle

comment not about the list, but the item that states apple "must " support it.

please name one company, just one that has a hit like ipod. zero. now name one company that has a hit like an iphone. zero. imagine a company that had a hit like an ipod or iphone and their relationship with the rest of their product line. would any analyst comment that the company is ignoring the secondary products? even one analyst think of wasting airtime mentioning this? now take apple with ipod and iphone and look for a company with two simultaneous hits. zero. so what sense does it make whatsoever to comment on atv and mini as ignored products?

does any company that makes a set top box that sells to the consumer market outsell atv? i don't know, just asking. so in this space, apple competes by ignoring. that's not bad.

does any pc company make a headless box that sells to the consumer market (ignoring clients for business systems) out-profit the mini line? i don't know, just asking. not a bad product line if it can have revenue generating market years after introduction in a market that changes every 18 months.

btw, neither of these are eol and most companies would kill to have the success of either of these. most companies are made up of product lines with items in the success range of atv and mini and are doing ok. kind of like hitting it out of the park and someone complains that you missed the cycle.

bottom line is that apple is so far ahead of the competition, that analysts have to dig up stuff like this to be critical. they are so superficial that they don't comprehend how stupid they sound upon a little deeper reflection.

Dec 29, 09 - 06:07 pm Comment from: Shadowself

I think it's high time for Apple to bring back Inkwell. It's been in development for over 16 years. It is in OS X, but does not have any kind of *active* support from Apple. I've yet to see any handwriting recognition software that beats the last version that shipped for the Newton OS.

If an updated version of Inkwell ships with a tablet (and it is even more accurate than it was) then this will be a significant point of differentiation for the iSlate.

If you get paid for such a load of horsesh!t, maybe I should consider a career in journalism? I can make up a bullsh!t or two. I can compose a fantasy list, "Mr.Obvious list" or compilation of speculations based on rumors. I can even wash it all in unicorn tears.
MDN MW: "should". As in "Should I?".

Dec 29, 09 - 06:33 pm Comment from: Harvey

Here is my prediction of ten things the Apple iThingy will have:

1. A feature no one thought of.

2. The absence of a feature everyone thought was essential, but turns out not to be.

3. Complaints that there is no handwriting recognition from the three people who still know how to write in longhand.

4. Complaints that there is no physical keyboard, which Apple won't include, because they prefer one SKU for the whole world.

5. Several copycat devices within six months

6. A bogus lawsuit for patent infringement.

7. Sarcastic, almost shrill comments from Paul Thurrott, whose wife will own one.

8. Content providers, astonished by the avalanche of cash

9. Loud denunciations and ridicule from Steve Ballmer, at the same time that Microsoft is developing for the platform.

10. Lines of people to buy one.

What Harvey said.

Dec 29, 09 - 06:52 pm Comment from: SKY LARK

What iLuvMyMacs said

That may be THE stupidest list I have ever read!

Suggestions
#11 A screen. Users have come to expect Apple to provide a way for people to view the interface.

#12 The ability to input text

#13 A battery. People expect their mobile devices to have one of these.

The one good thing about the article is that they are correct, just stupidly obvious.

My windows mobile phone has a useful keyboard which I never use, the on-screen one is more useful to me. And i'll chuck it for an iPhone when AT&T;gets their act together or Verizon gets the iPhone.

Dec 29, 09 - 08:27 pm Comment from: derekcurrie

My name for the tablet:

i V A P O R

Dec 29, 09 - 08:29 pm Comment from: derekcurrie

My #1 feature demand:

C O R P O R E A L
E X I S T E N C E

Dec 29, 09 - 09:21 pm Comment from: Harvey

@derekcurrie

In ye olden days of mainframes, whenever an IBM competitor came out with a new product, IBM would announce that they were shortly coming out with a better one. No one bought the competitor's existing product because they were waiting for IBM's announced product, which never came out. (From there we go to IBM's legal problems, but that is off-topic.)

Vaporware is a product announcement without a product.

Apple has a reputation for secrecy because they never discuss dreams, plans, or possibilities in advance; that would just be giving away their R&D;for free to competitors. The byproduct of this secrecy is that they never announce a product unless they are ready to sell it. In other words, in the 21st century at least, there has never been Apple vaporware. Everything they've announced, they've produced.

Even if all the world hypothesizes and gossips about a possible Apple product, it is not vaporware unless (1) Apple announces it and (2) Apple never produces it.

Apple never announced a tablet. The tablet is a rumor, a wish, a hypothesis, or an educated guess. It is not vaporware.

Dec 29, 09 - 10:34 pm Comment from: Sir Gill Bates

@ Wrong Again & Harvey,

Thanks for the laugh.

What it REALLY needs is a way to keep Maobama from stealing our tax dollars for stupid, stupid policies and "reforms" that will only just cram socialism down our throats!!!

Dec 30, 09 - 01:35 am Comment from: derekcurrie

OMFG. I thought I had carted 'Josh' off to school last week so he could cure his chronic ignorance. Well, I tried.

Regarding the vaporous 'iVapor', my apologies for breaking proper form in my use of the concept of vaporware. Now I am challenged to invent a term for rumor-ware. Hmm. Let me think a second. The iRumor. Nah. Too boring. I know:

I hereby rename the 'iVapor' the

i V A C U O U S

Hahahaha, that's funny, someone else is doing "Josh" posting. But that wasn't half bad, actually. I would have worded it differently though.

As for that Top 10 list, well, that fellow certainly has a firm grasp of the obvious. I hope he sends his list to Apple since I know they really really need his insight.

I would like to add a few things to the list:

1) The tablet needs to be visible.

2) It needs to be heavy enough not to float away, but not so heavy that you can't pick it up.

3) They need to include the batteries not leave them out like they've done with all their other products.

4) Apple needs to not simply leave the tablets by the side of the road, but instead sell them in their stores - for more than 10 cents but less than a million dollars.

5) It needs to not emit the odor of the pair of underwear Steve Ballmer wore at his "Developers Developers Developers Developers Developers" conference.

6) And of course it needs a Liberal Alarm so it won't work when any libtards come within 30 feet of it.

Dec 30, 09 - 11:37 am Comment from: Sir Gill Bates

This guy makes me actually appreciate 'ron'.

The MDN staffers are turning into click whores to drive up page views for their ad affiliates. Please stop linking to articles that do not contain even an iota of newsworthiness material. It only guarantees that I will not click on any of your advertising - and increases the likelihood that I may not return.

Hahahaha......

Sir Bill Gates, you've been hoaxed by some individual pretending to be me. I never use the term "libtard", even though I know that liberals do suffer from stunted intellectual development.

But I don't mind someone pretending to be me. Who knows, before long maybe there will be a whole army, known as the "Josh Movement".

Dec 30, 09 - 01:57 pm Comment from: Sir Gill Bates

@ Josh,

Please register your name so I know for sure who I'm insulting.

Nah, better never to know when someone is just "Josh"ing with ya.

Neo-con all the way baby!

Sir Bill, if you're really too damned stupid to detect the difference in nuance between me and that fake Josh, well then, there is nothing I can do for you.

But if it will help you to sort things out a little better, I'll be glad to let you know you are not capable of insulting me. I have to care what you think in order for that to happen. And frankly, when people like you express their lusty hatred for me, I take it as good sign. Sort of like when I spray roach poison and seeing them squirm. All is well.

Dec 30, 09 - 05:27 pm Comment from: Sir Gill Bates

@ Josh,

Sorry bud, but your "nuance" is just another version of hog shit. It all stinks.

As for hating you: No, I do not hate you, or anyone else. But I do feel pity for you. You are a pathetic excuse for a human being who apparently revels in the believe that you are superior to anyone who doesn't follow your twisted logic. I can't imagine what you must be like in person, and I sure don't ever want to find out.

I'm not sure which you need more, a psychiatrist or an exorcist. Please seek help.

@ Sir Bill,

Hahahaha, you're funny. You say you don't hate me, and then turn around and say everything you'd say about a person that you hate. Seriously, Bill, it's okay for you to hate me. I take it as a compliment when liberal scum hates me.

Dec 30, 09 - 05:57 pm Comment from: Sir Gill Bates

@ Josh,

Simply stating facts does not entail hate.

Disgust and repulsion of a persons thoughts and actions are not the same as hatred.

Listen, I know this is going to sound like an about-face for me, but, I really do want to apologize. Some of the things I've been posting lately are the result of a lot of personal trauma I've been dealing with lately. I won't go into it, but basically, sometimes lashing out seems like the only thing I can do. In my better moments I realize it's pretty childish of me; and it really is something I'm trying to work on.

Let's all just hope for a better New Year.

Dec 30, 09 - 08:13 pm Comment from: Sir Gill Bates

It's déjà vu all over again.

Hahahaha, the fake Josh is a liberal. That's funny. I've apparently really gotten under his skin. Poor fella is shattered to the core and since he couldn't overcome any my arguments he's reduced to this fake "Joshery" shtick. Liberals are too easy. I love it.

Wow - Reisinger should have called this article - Stating The Obvious. I hope they're not paying this guy too much. You forgot "power". It's got to have power to run. Oh and wireless, has to have that too. Idiot.