MacDailyNews - Where Mac news comes first

 MacDailyNews Poll

5 Day Most Commented

Opinion Archive

Current Headlines

Latest Joy of Tech

  • Latest Joy of Tech!

MacNN

AppleInsider

Macworld UK

TUAW

MacRumors

Yahoo! Finance AAPL

iTunes Top 10 Albums

Mac OS X Downloads

Wed, Jan 07, 2009 - 09:12 AM EST  —  AAPL: 93.02 (0.00, +0%)  |  NASDAQ: 1652.38 (0.00, +0%)

A moment of silence for the Apple key
Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 01:56 PM EST

Apple's new iMac keyboards have done away with the Apple key (or "Open Apple Key") in what seems to presage the fate of all Apple keys on Mac keyboards. Although a few days have passed, we wouldn't feel right without observing a moment of silence:



See Apple's new keyboards, sans Apple logo on the Command Key, here.

MacDailyNews Note: We still hold a special place in our hearts for the "Closed Apple Key."

Removing the Apple from the Command key makes sense from Apple's perspective, as it would only help further ease the minds of nervous potential switchers - "Uhh, what's that 'weird" key?" You can bet they hear that in the Apple Retails Stores pretty often. (The new key still has the "splat" on it (thankfully), but adds the word "command.") Still, we wish that Apple would to give us Mac users an optional key with the Apple on it!

The very first Macs, by the way, didn't have an "Apple" on the Command key. Macs began featuring the Apple logo on the key in 1986.

Two a Day explains "Why the Apple/Command Key Finally Lost Its Apple" here.

  • Social Web
  • E-mail






Always -- Free ground shipping with orders over $50 at the Apple Store.

Reader Feedback: ( = registered)

Aug 09, 07 - 12:58 pm Comment from: Denny

What has replaced that key?

Aug 09, 07 - 12:59 pm Comment from: Tempus Fugit

this is almost as sad as when they retired Clarus.

Moof.

Aug 09, 07 - 01:00 pm Comment from: death

RIP...

Aug 09, 07 - 01:00 pm Comment from: takethat

It was never "the Apple key", it was always the Command key...

Aug 09, 07 - 01:00 pm Comment from: Zune Tang

U didnt owned or pwned u got zune.

Your Potential. Our Passion™

Aug 09, 07 - 01:01 pm Comment from: Grigori

(silence)

They've replaced the apple with the word Command.

Aug 09, 07 - 01:02 pm Comment from: Macromancer

That's it, im taking a stand.

or... perhaps you could all buy my new Apple Key Decal Kit for only $19.95.

Aug 09, 07 - 01:02 pm Comment from: charlie

Yeah, a sad day indeed. I still miss the rainbow Apple logo... what with being an old hippy an' all...

Aug 09, 07 - 01:03 pm Comment from: Right back to where we started from

The original Macintosh keyboard did not have an Apple logo on it, so Apple's just kickin' it old school now. The Apple was put on the Command key for Apple ][ considerations, not Mac. I like the change!

Aug 09, 07 - 01:03 pm Comment from: Winston

@Denny:

The key (and its functions) are still there; they just removed the  and replaced it with the word "Command."

I got the new iMac last night. Love everything except typing on the Chiclet keys.

Aug 09, 07 - 01:05 pm Comment from: Codger

Many years ago it was "the Apple key". Back in the days of the Apple II and AppleBasic, documentation refered to the "Open Apple Key" and the "Closed Apple Key".

Aug 09, 07 - 01:08 pm Comment from: coolfactor

Always been the Command key for me.

@Winston - you don't like the keyboard? Any particular reason?

Aug 09, 07 - 01:10 pm Comment from: anaknipedro

I'll miss the  key. It's iconic.

Aug 09, 07 - 01:10 pm Comment from: Bart Hawkins Kreps

Thank heavens! After 20 years of trying to explain "hit the Command key, you know, that key with the funny little squiggle symbol ... no, not the option key, that key without a name ...."

For a company with a reputation for the world's most user-friendly UIs, this was a real stroke of genius: actually put the name of the key on the key.

Aug 09, 07 - 01:11 pm Comment from: Crabapple

This is a keyboard aimed at the entire computer industry!

1) ipod
2) itunes
3) Videopod
4) AppleTv
5) iphone
6) Mac mini
7) keyboards
8) Monitors
9) Camera's
10) Universal remote controller (Mac, Pc,Tv, Stereo, Car stero etc)
11) Printers
12) Scanners + Fax

Get the idea? Hence the name change to Apple inc.

Aug 09, 07 - 01:19 pm Comment from: Yimmie

I always hated it when people referred to that key as the "Apple Key" or the even more retarded sounding "Open Apple Key".

Aug 09, 07 - 01:25 pm Comment from: takethat is correct

takethat is correct

It is correctly called the Command key and has been from the beginning.. It is only called the Apple key by some switcher/newbies and youngsters in the crowd.

I think it is time that we true Mac users quit inviting windoze people to our party. I am getting tired of the crap they drag along with them.

Aug 09, 07 - 01:25 pm Comment from: Spudly

Apple key is for newbs! It wasn't there on my first Mac...so get used to it! I always thought it looked out of place and was just there to pacify newbs to the platform.

Aug 09, 07 - 01:25 pm Comment from: Twisted Mac Freak

Show some control, home-y. Take a page from a new generation and you'll function just fine. So, no option for the alt-ernate way? Enter a new world with better returns for a shifting business. And if you feel num, lock on to the new end game.

Aug 09, 07 - 01:27 pm Comment from: 7over

This will make it much easier to explain to people what key to hit.

The new keyboard is a joy to use by the way. Excellent tactile feedback, short stroke, nice matte feel, nipples where they're supposed to be and having it this slim and close to the table top makes it more comfortable to type on.

A very nice design.
I just wish the keys were 'light up" like the MBP's.

Aug 09, 07 - 01:32 pm Comment from: Nic

I think it's a simple matter of eliminating confusion caused by redundancy. In all the documentation, the key was always referred to as the "command" key, not the Apple key. The Apple logo never showed up in menu items, and therefore, it was nothing more than an unnecessary decoration. But, since so many people mistakenly call it the "Apple key" instead of the command key, they probably figured they could put the issue to rest by eliminating the Apple logo. Makes sense to me. They've always called it "command," so they should stick to that. Open- and Closed-Apple keys were on the Apple ///. How many of you remember that one?

Aug 09, 07 - 01:33 pm Comment from: @ Twisted Mac Freak

Hey Twisted Mac Freak,

Why don't you take your BIOS and shove it up your CMOS !

Aug 09, 07 - 01:33 pm Comment from: Martin

it's a good decision, it's called the command key, not the apple key, and this will make it more obvious.

Aug 09, 07 - 01:37 pm Comment from: comand-x

i guess apple its going to make a printer without keys and its compatible with actual airports.

Aug 09, 07 - 01:44 pm Comment from: Twisted Mac Freak

To: @ Twisted Mac Freak

You must be one bored mother.

Aug 09, 07 - 01:46 pm Comment from: Macaday

Well it's still on my MBP, and as my son is using a TiBook that is in its 7th year that Apple logo will still be around when Microsoft slips below the waves...

Aug 09, 07 - 01:53 pm Comment from: OZZ

How can we cut, copy and paste now? No more Apple+X, Apple+C, Apple+V...

I can't use my computer anymore... :((((

Aug 09, 07 - 02:16 pm Comment from: M@c

I'm not happy about this.

Aug 09, 07 - 02:17 pm Comment from: twilightmoon@mac.com

Don't miss it. The Apple logo should have been removed years ago, served no useful purpose, created confusion, and I believe it also cheapened the Apple logo.

The inclusion of the word "command" on the key is also welcome.

I think they should have put the "option" symbol on the Option key, and same for Shift (since they use symbols rather than words in the menus).

Aug 09, 07 - 02:25 pm Comment from: Winston

@coolfactor:

There's not enough tactile feedback to identify whether or not your fingers are squarely on the keys. Because the key surfaces are flat, I find my fingers tend to slide off more easily. On keyboards with concave-surfaced keys, your fingers tend to migrate to the center of the key just by feel. The keyboard redesign feels more like it was done for style at the expense of function. I'll probably get used to it, but I'm hanging onto my old keyboard just in case. Definitely not a dealbreaker either way.

Aug 09, 07 - 02:29 pm Comment from: baukunst

about time.
command is better.

Aug 09, 07 - 02:32 pm Comment from: Mike from Canmore

They should put the shift, control, alt, etc. symbols on the keys as well to better help with hot keys. As a switcher it is a bit confusing looking at the hotkey buttons in the pull down menu.

Aug 09, 07 - 02:33 pm Comment from: Mike from Canmore

wtf...

So I can post on Windows and IE but when I use Safari I get this...

The following errors were encountered

We apologize. We cannot accept your comment at this time.
Return to Previous Page

Aug 09, 07 - 02:40 pm Comment from: Woody

Spudley's right. Newbs, all of you! The original 128k Mac only had a a cloverleaf on its single command key! Nary an Apple in sight. Proof? OK: http://www.case.hu-berlin.de/cm/cmKat/AppleM-2.JPG

And the Apple II line didn't have "apple" keys either until the //c and late-rev Apple //e came out.

I've always hated that Apple on the key, and thought it was confusing. It shoulda just been called the Command key, with just a cloverleaf symbol on it. Although, the new keyboard with both "Command" and the cloverleaf on the key is still better.

So, good-bye, and good riddance, Apple Key!

Aug 09, 07 - 02:47 pm Comment from: what the hell?

It's just a freaking key. GET OVER IT.

Aug 09, 07 - 02:51 pm Comment from: frisby

I am sitting here and staring at my apple key. When the f*&# did I find out it was command? It doesn't even say what the hell it is!!!

It's the dreaded windows start key for you bootcampers.

friz-b

Aug 09, 07 - 02:54 pm Comment from: The Other Steve

Added in 1986? That explains everything! It was added AFTER Steve left Apple. The Apple key's days on the Mac were numbered from the day Steve returned. I'm surprised it took this long.

All kidding aside, it does make since from a Windows switcher point of view.

Aug 09, 07 - 02:57 pm Comment from: The Other Steve

er, make that sense.

Aug 09, 07 - 03:01 pm Comment from: Twisted Mac Freak

I'm turned on (and off) waiting for a binary keyboard.

Aug 09, 07 - 03:08 pm Comment from: OBill-Wan Kenobi

Sorry Nic but my Apple //e Enhanced also had "open" and "closed" Apple keys. And Spudly, the Apple logo was probably added to the key to pacify those of us in the Apple ][ Forever camp, if you want to us "newbs" thats your prerogative. My peers used the term "open-apple" "closed-apple" instead of "command". The "open" apple key was program function key strokes (i.e. commands), the "closed" apple key was system related. Ah, the good old days.

open-apple Q

Aug 09, 07 - 03:16 pm Comment from: Gosh

Buy a UK keyboard - the Apple key ia alive and well and on the new aluminium keyboard at the Apple Store, Meadowhall, Sheffield:-)

What next firewire?

Aug 09, 07 - 03:26 pm Comment from: The Velvet Hammer

control, open apple, reset... forevah.

Aug 09, 07 - 03:27 pm Comment from: OBill-Wan Kenobi

Oh yeah TMF? I'm 1 and 0 waiting for the glass top keyboard. Imagine, a software driven keyboard that can change functions depending on the application. Like the iPhone, except bigger. Who needs tactile response anymore? That would beat the hell out of a touch screen...

Aug 09, 07 - 03:32 pm Comment from: BustingTheSkullsOfIdiots

I think this goes too far. Most of my keyboards are third-party deals, so I'm not crushed, just a bit disappointed. Someone will make money in the apple keyboard decal business, though.

Aug 09, 07 - 03:40 pm Comment from: peaPod



Forever

Aug 09, 07 - 03:46 pm Comment from: Zune Tang

Ah yes, another nail in the coffin for the beleaguered Apple Co. Don't believe the marketing hype. This will make it easier for Mr. Steve Jobs to finally do what he's wanted to do all along, run the superior Vista platform on his brand new Macs. Alas, the end is nigh for Mac OSX. This is merely the first step.

Aug 09, 07 - 03:47 pm Comment from: Mr. Reeee

I never got calling the Command key the Apple key.

But, WHERE does the Command key symbol come from?
Why not get rid of THAT and keep the Apple?

I knew some people who called the Command Key... get this... the CHIGGER Key! Yeah, WTF? I guess they thought it looked like a tick or... a chigger.

MDN Magic Word: THINGS will never be the same!

Aug 09, 07 - 03:48 pm Comment from: Decals

I'd buy a decal. I'll never give up on the Apple key...never

Aug 09, 07 - 03:49 pm Comment from: ApplePi

I always hated that apple key. It doesn't make sense... when you have some people calling it command and some calling it Open Apple.

It was retarded and confusing, something that Apple generally isn't.

Aug 09, 07 - 03:50 pm Comment from: Peter

"And the Apple II line didn't have 'apple' keys either until the //c and late-rev Apple //e came out."

...and the IIgs, which is where it came from.

Essentially, Apple wanted to be able to use ADB on both it's Macintosh and Apple II lines. Of course, the problem was that the Apple II had this "Apple" key (with the Apple logo) while Macintosh just had a "Command" key. So the solution was to put both on the key so that Apple II users and Macintosh users would be able to find the appropriate key depending on what they saw on the screen.

Why was it kept? Mostly because it was easier to explain to people that the "command key" was the one with the little Apple on it (versus the "cloverleaf").

By the way, the "command key" can also be found on signs in Sweden--it denotes a "place of interest."

Reader feedback page 1 of 2 pages:  1 2 >

Always -- Free ground shipping with orders over $50 at the Apple Store.

Add Your Feedback:

Register or Login

Name:

Email: (optional)

Emoticons | Allowed HTML Tags

Remember my info   Notify me of follow-up comments?

Please enter the "MDN Magic Word" you see in the image below: