MacDailyNews Take: Hey, you will still be on iPhone – in the browser, as always. If you wanted to be on iPhone in a special way, you should’ve taken Apple’s offer instead of Eric T. Mole’s. You decided to take Google’s overpayment and you got one your one big payday. And, now, you pay. Actions have consequences, Omar. Apple doesn’t have a monopoly, so go advertise on other smartphones. AdMob and other third-parties have long had access to far too much in-app critical information regarding and emanating from iPhone OS devices. Only Apple should retain access to such in-app data for competitive reasons.
Hamoui continues, “Let’s be clear. This change is not in the best interests of users or developers. In the history of technology and innovation, it’s clear that competition delivers the best outcome. Artificial barriers to competition hurt users and developers and, in the long run, stall technological progress.”
MacDailyNews Take: Apple’s innovating, as usual, and they don’t need AdMob or Google to do it. BTW, will oh-so-open Google be allowing Apple’s iAds to be integrated into apps the run on their fake iPhone OS? Hello? Omar? And, why would Apple allow a direct mobile device competitor like Google to have access to information about iPhone, iPod touch, and iPad users, including location data from the devices, along with numbers of units in use, among other things? Answer: Apple wouldn’t and shouldn’t. Does Amazon allow Barnes & Noble to gather information about how many Kindles access the network, their locations, and which books they’re buying and reading? Of course not.
Hamoui continues, “Since I started AdMob in 2006, I have watched competition in mobile advertising help drive incredible growth and innovation in the overall ecosystem. We’ve worked to help developers make money, regardless of platform – iPhone, Android, Palm Pre, Blackberry, Windows, and others. In the past four years, AdMob has helped tens of thousands of developers make money and build real businesses across multiple operating systems.”
“I’ve personally worked with many iPhone app developers around the world, including one who created a fun and simple game in the early days of the App Store. He built the app because he was interested in the challenge. He built this single app into a multi-million dollar advertising revenue stream with AdMob, hired a whole team, and turned a hobby into a real business,” Hamoui writes. “We see these stories all the time. We want to help make more of them, so we’ll be speaking to Apple to express our concerns about the impact of these terms.”
MacDailyNews Take: Again, Omar, you chose to take Google’s overinflated offer. You are now Google, so stop your whining. Google wanted a war with Apple. They got one. Go innovate on Google’s platform and any others that’ll have you. May the best solution and the true innovators win.
Source: AdMob Blog
MacDailyNews Note: We dumped AdMob for Quattro Wireless on our mobile (iOS-only) site on Jan. 5, 2010, the day that Apple bought Quattro. Our transition from AdMob to Quattro was completed in late February with the release of MacDailyNews 2.0 app.
Apple delivered major ownage on this!! haha Google!!
Translation: “Hey!!!! My butt hurts!!!!!” What a bunch of tards.
I think Apple is calling Google’s ‘openness’ bluff.
If Google will be truly open then they’ll let iAds advertisement on the Android phones regardless of Apple’s controversial closed architecture. Otherwise, Google will be seen as hypocrites.
Boo fuxking Hoo
what Giggle? Can’t have 100% of everyones data you slimey sobs?
And they’re crying victim. Unfortuanely the fandroids see this as another evil move by apple.
I guess I should be more compassionate for them….
For they know not what they 001001100111
I’m sure that this will be challenged in court and I don’t feel good about Apple’s chances.
Waaaa!!!
Waaaaa!!!
Waaaa!!!
So, AdMob can’t steal data from a competitor and disclose it to it’s new boss. How unbusiness-like of Apple.
Phuguewad! That’s that stuff that comes out after your done! (And Hamoui has been royally rear-ended and there is stuff a drippin… (not that that is a bad thing – but in this case, I am sure it is. )
I am sure this will get deleted but I just needed to say it.
What a fasking whinger!
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This is good and bad. It’s not good that a company like Apple monopolizes things, and they are starting to in more and more areas.
But Google monopolizes advertising in its search engine results… you don’t see Yahoo or others having ads come up there. So not much to see here… other than the fact that websites themselves can have any advertising whatever. So people might argue that not allowing mobile advertising campaigns within an app from another source besides Apple is monopolistic, because inside an app could be analogous to inside a website.
And the App Store is like the search engine. But Apple does not put advertising in there, and thank god they don’t.
I don’t know… I think this is all good.
Maybe I’m an idiot, but don’t these terms just mean that Admob ads won’t be able to collect user data? Can’t an app use Admob ads without it collecting user data? Yeah, it’s a disadvantage, but people are making it seem like there will only be iAds on the iPhone. Am I wrong here?
1. It’s called competition, bub.
2. No more free rides.
Get used to both.
This was a brilliant move on Apple’s part. There is zero reason a direct competitor (Google) should be able to data mine Apple’s iPhone platform.
MadMac your lame trolling is getting boring. No way thus will be successfully challenged in any US court.
Just like what we heard from Adobe’s clueless CEO about Flash, our buddy Omar’s rhetoric about competition is a a red herring. There will be plenty of competition in the advertising space on iOS. Just none from Google, which has a competing platform.
TANSTAAFL.
And yes, the schadenfreude is lip-smacking delicious.
My new iAd…
“Would you like some cheese with that whine?”
@Marc, Google/AdMob will be at a serious disadvantage on iOS, and thus will not be competitive with other advertising companies. In effect, Apple is shutting AdMob out of iOS, while allowing other 3rd party ad networks in.
Apple is well within their rights to shut them out, of course, and they would be foolish not to shut them out. As Jobs has said, Google chose to compete with Apple, not the other way around. Payback is a bitch.
I hate google these days. I even changed my default search to Bing, but to blatantly remove competition from the phone and to limit the choices of developers is wrong and it should come back to bite Apple in the ass.
Two words:
Glimmer Blocker
Hey Omar, “Go F**k Urself”
Since when is leveling the playing field a bad thing. As a consumer would you rather have 1 company dominate 90% of the ads you see?!
Really!!!
Apple is protecting it’s interests here. If people don’t understand this then they are the truely blind. Educate.
Funny how everyone wants to get INSIDE this so called “Walled Garden.”
Though the MDN take is spot on, I worry that the Justice Department is not technically astute enough to recognize this.
Combine this with the reader view in Safari 5 that effectively deletes margin ads from content and that’s 2 big middle fingers extended in Google’s face.
Google’s going to get a healthy dispensation from Apple’s bag of hurt the same way Adobe got it for its 3 year – and counting – mismanagement of the effort to put Flash on mobile devices, then having the audacity to bitch about it. And they *still* didn’t (and don’t) have the solution in hand.
When the Mac OS was a minority platform on the desktop, Apple had to put up with shit from Microsoft and Adobe that further marginalized their market share. Now they – and most recently Google – are seeing that there’s no company too big to get the FU from Apple now that they own the smartphone market. Payback’s a bitch and I absolutely love it.
So how is it that two near-monopoly companies, one with a near-monopoly in online advertising (Google), and another with a near-monopoly Internet plug-in (Adobe), can get away with talking about “openness” and “competition”? Apple’s doing a great job of playing trustbuster here, which will only make things better for consumers by leveling the playing field – and yet somehow it’s Apple who’s the villain??
“Competition” is Microsofts whine word.
Omar,
You’re Google’s whore now… bought and paid for. So stop whining about your inability to crawl into bed with Apple.
You made your bed, so lay in it. Beyotch.
750 million down the drain!
Sounds like it was written for him by Vic “I’ll level with you” Gundotra, google nipple extraordinaire.
This move, along with Safari Reader feature, is a one-two punch across Google’s face.
Safari Reader makes sure that Google’s revenue through ad click is reduced; and this move completely shuts them out of iPhone where the ad market is just starting!
I only wish IE and Firefox would start including “Readability” plugin as standard on their browsers. That will show how fragile Google is.
Omar, please go kiss Eric’s …. You chose your bedfellow…now enjoy him. Remember, “Thy shall not covet thy neighbor’s wife!”
@IT guy,
Firefox gets pretty much all of its revenue from Google. Don’t hold your breath for a standard Readability plug-in.
Google has gotten scary big, and until now, nobody has been able to figure out how to challenge their dominance. Apple rides to the rescue of another industry!
This statement appeared earlier in All Things D, accompanied by a stock photo depicting a chain, padlock, and no trespassing sign, a heavy handed bit of propaganda to make us all think of Apple now as an evil locked kingdom, despite the fact no-one is complaining about their iPhone/iPad experience, and the only one being negatively affected is Google.
Over the years Apple has been hated for being elitist or too stylish. Users would look at the Mac like a sports rival or as an accusation they bought the wrong electronic brain extension and are therefore stupid. Also, the microsoft pc eco system hated Apple for the same reason psychologists say thieves have a need to hate their victims.
Now it’s this Steve Jobs’ locked-up walled garden scenario. Alongside the rapid and astonishing success of Apple’s computers and devices, a number of very large competitors are getting their asses handed to them. And with so many $B at stake, we are deluged with attempts to demonize the very champion of every user of technology.
No no no !
Buying an iPhone is in many ways, like buying a car. There are absolutly no reason Apple can decide on what kind of road we can drive, on wich directions or wich country we can go, on wich place we should stop, wich brand of fuel we can use, wich brand of beverage we can drink in the car, wich parents or friends or passangers we can crry on, and many other no, nein, ليس, не, 不, 아니, δεν, לא, नहीं, しない, niet, não, inte, değil, không,…
@MacDailyNews
Keep up the good work!!! You acted fast in changing from AdMob to Quattro
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Momentum Apple!!!!
@MacHin:
Actually, no… buying an iPhone is NOT like buying a car. Have you ever tried to use your Verizon phone on Sprint? Have you ever tried using your T-Mobile phone on ATT? Try running your favorite iPhone app on your Droid? Nobody tells you where you can go with your iPhone or Droid or LG Thingamajig, or who you can call, or anything else… you’re free to make your own choices. So, what’s the problem you’ve got, as a customer. If you don’t want an iPhone, don’t f*cking buy one. Just don’t complain about what iPhone customers have that you won’t…
Why doesn’t Apple take it a step further by either not allowing a foreign SDK (like Admobs) or requiring Apple approval?
After all, it’s Apple’s platform, the have every right to control what goes on their devices.
@MacHin, not sure which totalitarian regime you live in, but here in the land of the free and the home of the brave, a private company is allowed to choose their own business plan. If a car company decided to sell a car that could use only one brand of fuel and only drive on certain roads, they are free to do so.
Capiche?
Reminds me of CEOs, destroying companies and the future, all the while chanting about “share holder value”. There is only one share holder those CEOs care about and this CEO only cares about his revenue, not developers.
Can’t remember the software developer, quoted in the past few days. His claim was he made more money with his app the first week in the App Store than the entire prior two years using a Google Ad supported web site. You can self publish music, books and who knows what else through the iTunes ecosystem. The world has changed.
@MacHin
I’d spend 30 seconds dismantling that spew, but frankly I fear for the brain cells that would no doubt perish in the process.
as the say in French, Omar:
Eat Shit.
Omar Hamoui, what kind of name is that? Nuke the bastard and take no chances, after all he could be on a jihad.
Added note: my spell checker thinks the correct spelling of Hamoui should be Homo, must be cause my iMac is never wrong.
You wouldn’t be allowed such dribble in your place Omar
Those whining bitches make me want to puke. iAd hasn’t even launched yet and AdMob is crying foul because they can’t steal Apple’s mobile platform stats.
“Not good for developers and users” should read “Not good for AdMob.” They’ve had it against Apple since Apple tried to buy them out.
What’s with all the whining, snitching and finger pointing???
Hasn’t anyone got two legs to stand on and any self respect or balls anymore to go it and achieve alone ?
Life ain’t for sissies.
Amen, breeze.
“Combine this with the reader view in Safari 5 that effectively deletes margin ads…”
I JUST used that and I LOVE IT!!! I can read articles cleanly and in a decent-sized font with no distraction.
THAT, is MAGICAL!
@ Madmac,
“I’m sure that this will be challenged in court and I don’t feel good about Apple’s chances.”
Apple will try, unsuccessfully, to sell iAd advertisements on Google Search, a real monopoly. There will be no challenge against Apple. I feel real good about Apple’s chances.
I don’t invite any Tom, Dick or Harry into my house. I only invite people whom I trust. I can’t open my house to all and sundry because I want people to believe that I am “open” and give “choice” for untrustworthy thieves to scoot off with my belongings. If this nonsense is to go on even my wife will be hijacked by some casanova.
Hmmm, AdGoogle wants to sue Apple because Apple wont let them snoop on us. Thanks Apple for protecting our privacy. Try and sue Apple SnoopGoog, just try it.
In other news, the FTC is looking into a complaint by Best Buy that Target will not allow billboards of Target’s competitors to be placed in Target’s parking lots and poster ads inside its store. Best Buy’s director of marketing stated: “Target is setting artificial barriers to competition that hurts customers and product manufactures and, in the long run, stalls retail progress.” Alhough Target built the parking lot and store for its own business, Best Buy believes it should have the right to use Target’s property to promote Best Buy’s business.