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You have to be kidding, right Kevin?

We have made the ad animation crap run as well on mac's but the video still sucks?

Oh please, let me rip flash blocker off now.... not!

Feb 05, 10 - 05:46 pm Comment from: Jubei

After so many years of letting us suffer with instability, crashes, bug ridden resource hogging POS, you're now telling us that is almost as good as the Windows version? ahahahahahahahahha.....

NO THANKS you can keep it. I'm ready to move on and I'm sure Apple and the rest of its users feel the same way.

Feb 05, 10 - 05:49 pm Comment from: TowerTone

...and the check is in the mail, too.

Feb 05, 10 - 05:49 pm Comment from: The Other Steve

Good news for Mac users.
I'm still keeping my flash blocker in place on Safari, but still good news.

BTW MDN- Please! Include variable sized text in MDN 2.0 app. Please!

Feb 05, 10 - 05:49 pm Comment from: Ray

Adobe has not innovated in a long time...that is a shame. They were really good company.

just my $0.02

Feb 05, 10 - 05:57 pm Comment from: Bob

Whoa, wait a minute. Is this the same Adobe who's been complaining for over a year that they can't make Flash any better because its Apple's fault not theirs?

What? Did one of Adobe's developers finally purchase a copy of "Programming Mac OS X for Dummies" books?

Wow

I can't wait until my flash experience is almost as good as on windows...

it's like, I'll still be crapping my pants, but there will be less to scoop out

This sounds like great news. Using CoreAnimation means that Apple has more control over Flash performance on the OSX. Also, the way I read it, video performance will be better on the Mac as well under 10.1, but maybe that's not right.

Perhaps they'll be able to use CoreVideo for Flash.

No, I think he was handed a used copy from a middle school student.

Adobe is riding the little blue bus with the flash class.

Feb 05, 10 - 06:06 pm Comment from: ragarcia

@ DRMSSDB:

That comment was shitastic!

Kudos to you!

Maybe Adobe are angling for Apple to buy them out, just to sort out the Flash nightmare?
That way Flash could be either ditched or replaced by something better.
Maybe then we could get a Quark replacement that was affordable?

Feb 05, 10 - 06:18 pm Comment from: LeeSweet

@MDN: How about a preview of features in app 2.0? We've been waiting a while!

Feb 05, 10 - 06:33 pm Comment from: madgunde

Sorry Adobe, almost as good as isn't good enough.

New Slogan -

HTML5: Shitastic Flash Must Die

haha

Does Adobe have feet of clay?

Feb 05, 10 - 06:46 pm Comment from: breeze

ADOBE SUCKS!!!

Since Adobe has ignored Mac user's complaints about Flash, buggy /sluggish Photoshop performance, their upgrades (ha), registration issues and many more, we've passed our complaints about you to Apple, the company that takes it's customers seriously...

Apple investigated each and every complaint very thoroughly over time and have decided to help us by publicly telling you that you will not ruin the Apple experience for their users. Jobs say get lost we all say good ridins - you're toast

Feb 05, 10 - 06:48 pm Comment from: John

Oooo, almost as good as Windows anything??? I can't wait!!

Feb 05, 10 - 06:49 pm Comment from: ron

I ALMOST found ten dollars once.

Feb 05, 10 - 06:53 pm Comment from: ron

'Gotta get rid of those ridins. Good riddance to them, once and for all.

Well guess the "lazy" tag does apply. Why is Mac second class?

Feb 05, 10 - 06:57 pm Comment from: Macdoc

Too late Flash is over, finished, DEAD!!

I'm no Adobe fanboy or Flash lover - may Flash die - but to be fair when Ray said 'Adobe has not innovated in a long time' I must stick up for InDesign which has innovatively marched forward and made me drop Quark which I never imagined would ever happen.

Be sure to click on the link to Lynch's blog comment - the comments which follow his are quite juicy and worth a read.

Feb 05, 10 - 07:07 pm Comment from: Sir Gill Bates

Just got home from work and one of the first things was to try to watch a Flash video on CNN. Yep, the stinkin' piece o' crap crashed Safari. Again.

The implementation of HTML5 can't happen fast enough for me.

Not sure how to read this. Flash on windows wil finally match the quality of windows? It will become equally as bad as on Mac?

Wow, that's like promising that the next version of Swine Flu won't make you as sick as the current version.

Sounds like Microsoft...flash for Mac.....Its just good enough.

Feb 05, 10 - 07:24 pm Comment from: twilightmoon

NCG598

In California where I grew up the short bus was yellow. And, no I didn't ride on it, I never rode the bus to school, but there was a kid down the street who did.

Feb 05, 10 - 07:27 pm Comment from: the other steve jobs

there is nothing stopping Adobe from calling QuickTime APIs to play video. QuickTime is an API every bit as real and useable as any of the other ones in Mac OS X.

If you want to play accellerated video, call QuickTime APIs, and if you must put stuff on top of it like buttons - fine - put it on top, there's nothing stopping them frmo doing that.

I hate Adobe Flash since the future is now HTML 5. Get a life Adobe, you suck.

This is a disgrace. Adobe must pay dearly for such ethics. I've officially banned using any Adobe products. Apple should produce their own competing software and make Adobe crawl for forgiveness. C'mon.

D - Web Developer, NYC

Step 1. Apple buys Adobe

Step 2. Apple kills Flash

Step 3. The world celebrates

Feb 05, 10 - 07:58 pm Comment from: Foris

Adobe: the anorexic weakling who still dreams of being (and tries to act like) the schoolyard bully.

Any comments C1?

Feb 05, 10 - 08:10 pm Comment from: lurker

Hey, Adobe, remember PostScript (It's free, just adopt it)? To quote Sextus Empiricus: "The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind small." Payback's a bitch.

fsck you, adobe

If Apple were to buy Adobe, they could do the following:
- decrease the performance of flash for Windows and make it buggy (sweet revenge)
- temporarily provide a super performing Mac version, so that people flock to the Mac

Then: drop Flash altogether.
The technique is called: embrace and extend

They could sell DreamWeaver, Indesign, etc. to Symantec, or to Microsoft both of which have been known to professionally screw up software products, making them unstable, security threats, and that break with every system update.


BTW, I use clickFlash, which blocks unnecessary adds.
Unfortunately, too many companies are relying solely on Flash for their websites, so when I must, I click to see Flash.

That's it- I'm boycotting all Adobe products. How arrogant.

Feb 05, 10 - 09:19 pm Comment from: Islandgirl

"Lynch concedes that video is still a major weakness, as a 480p video, running on a 1.8GHz Mac mini, uses 34 percent of the CPU in Mac OS X and just 16 percent in Windows," MacNN reports. "Flash 10.1 is expected to cut CPU consumption in half."

This is maddening. I can't count the times I have tried to watch a video on CNN or other news sites, or CNET, or Winding Road mag, etc... only to get the spinning beachball or an endlessly loading black square. How incompetent are these people?

"Just got home from work and one of the first things was to try to watch a Flash video on CNN. Yep, the stinkin' piece o' crap crashed Safari. Again."

It's not much better in Firefox. It used to hang FF 3.5 regularly and I had to Force Quit it. Not so much in FF 3.6, but I still get the beachball a lot.

I downloaded and installed the Flash 10.1 beta 2 on my 3.06 GHz iMac and played one of the Avatar HD trailers and it only used up half as many processor cycles as it did before. I can definitely live with that. I'm still going to continue to use ClickToFlash, but I'm glad that Adobe is finally getting something done. Maybe I can thank Steve for calling Adobe lazy.

I don't know if Flash is going to go away or if it is a piece of crap. I just know that sometimes I need it and I'm glad my desktop machines support it when nothing else seems to work.

Flash should be left behind and abandoned, marooned on the Isle of Forgotten things to spend all eternity with it's friends WordPerfect and America Online.

So sayeth Fin Fang Foom!

Feb 05, 10 - 09:47 pm Comment from: Jubei

"but I'm glad that Adobe is finally getting something done"

So if they get something done that gives up "almost" equal performance with Windows, all is forgiven? Then we twiddle our thumbs for several more years with subpar performance again while Adobe treats us like castaways begging for a piece of food from the master to make us passive again?

Screw that. Flash can't go bye bye fast enough.

I look forward to a Flash free Internet & am not interested in Flash. Until then, Click To Flash is an essential.

much too late my friend. you had your chance and you blew it.

Wow, the echo chamber is running full tilt. If MDN has an opinion then it must be 'correct'.

This would actually be funny if it wasn't so fucking sad.

Feb 06, 10 - 12:21 am Comment from: Trvth

I HATE THAT COMPANY! YAAAAAAHHHHH.

@ Fair and Balanced – Weird, MDN's "echo chamber" must cover the entire internet, because pretty much everywhere you go, you'll see opinions like this…

Feb 06, 10 - 01:00 am Comment from: studentrights

Die FLASH Die!

We don't care go away!

Feb 06, 10 - 01:33 am Comment from: Chas

Too little, too late!

=:~)

@ DWJ:

Apple's already killing Flash. Why waste the money and buy Adobe? Why to people keep suggesting Apple buy Adobe? Why would Apple want that crap? It would take all of Apple's software teams a year or more just to get all the bugs out.