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No they won't.

yes the 'king will

I don't know what kind of market there is for these larger screens, but I want Apple to do it for one main reason: It will make Windows 7 look downright stupid two years before its release.

In the meantime, I don't know if it'll be a lucrative market to be in or not. What I do know is that Apple is the company to build this market and make it lust-worthy.

If not now, Apple, do it soon. Maybe by the Fall?

Jun 05, 08 - 10:50 am Comment from: Jocko Flocko

Wow! 50% predictions... way to go out on a limb there dumbass. There's a higher than 50-50 chance these expert analysts are simply trying to hold onto their jobs by making predictions so obvious that there's no way they could be wrong. Amazing. No, actually its pathetic that this lame-ass prediction gets reported and then repeated.

Jun 05, 08 - 10:51 am Comment from: JAYGEE

Will it run Mac OS X or the iPhone OS?

Pretty much what I have been saying for a long while.

In the world of computing - the differentiating factor from one OS to another shall be Multi-Touch. Others will fallow, but, remember who brought it to the masses first.

Innovation is not Inventing.

Still hoping the iJesture is the utlra-portable/multi-touch/mouse/keybooard device.

- dougless

(BTW - mdn - you have been blocking me - why?)

Mhmmm... in a case of "will" or "won't", considering there are two possible options, then the chances of either happening is 50%. So what did this article tell us that we didn't already know? lol

Jun 05, 08 - 10:56 am Comment from: Macromancer

68% of all statistics and odds are made up on the spot.

It's all about timing. Apple is two steps ahead of every company cuz they own the software and the hardware making them in unison. We all know that. everybody else has to adapt to what ms, linux, ubutuu(whatever) puts out making it more difficult to make it flawless or even close to. I'd be amazed if they announce it at WWDC rather than a smaller show at the apple campus like they did with the new iMac models last year.

Jun 05, 08 - 10:59 am Comment from: Macintosh

I don't see Apple making what would essentially be a larger screen iPod touch... The iPod touch & iPhone has the capability to zoom and scroll for a reason... So they don't need to make bigger versions.

It isn't a logical move by any means, and it will just cannibalize iPod touch & iPhone sales. Any who really needs one of these when you've got an iPhone / touch? "Mobile" means put it in your pocket. Apple's definition of "Ultra Mobile Computer" is a computer you can put in your pocket.

These analysts think like Gateway or Dell do... If either of them had this technology, you would see 10 different sizes and everyone confused as which one to buy... And selling one million of them would mean producing 100,000 of each.

That's not how Apple thinks. Compared to the iPhone / touch, this device is not an innovative improvement, it's a step backwards. A step that Apple won't take.

Jun 05, 08 - 11:01 am Comment from: mike k.

Dougrest: BTW - mdn - you have been blocking me - why?)

maybe it has something to do with your difficulty differentiating between "follow" and "fallow", or the fact that "jesture" is not a word.

on topic: i would use this thing as a document reader, and for on-the-go email, web and light text work, as well as for video while on the stairmaster. I wouldn't use this to replace my iPod though.

JF wrote, "Wow! 50% predictions... way to go out on a limb there dumbass."

No MDN comment. Hmmm, perhaps MDN doesn't comprehend the higher math.

Jun 05, 08 - 11:07 am Comment from: Ampar

There's a psychic chicken nicknamed Cluster Clucker in a roadside stand on Route 9 next to the old Dairy Queen (it's right under the Prescription Strength Cruex Spray Powder billboard) that agrees. Best fifty cents you'll spend today.

The earliest intro would be MWSF 09.

It's a Developers conference, ie.; software.

Jun 05, 08 - 11:18 am Comment from: Connor MacBook

There's actually either a 0% chance or a 100% chance, it's already been determined. Only Apple's inner circle knows which is correct. I'm betting on 0%.

That said, a web-centric Multi-Touch tablet would cover most of my computer needs, and a lot of other people's too. I've always reckoned fully fledged computers are unnecessary for most people.

Still, this is a developers conference, and the focus will likely be on iPhone apps rather than new hardware (even moreso than the iPhone itself; iPhone 2.0 is all about the software).

More bullshit analists. Asshats will say anything to get a click.

You guys, shut the fcuk up for a few days.

Jun 05, 08 - 11:19 am Comment from: Ampar

"Others will fallow . . ."

So, the next Zune will come in a yellowish-brown as well.

It's certainly possible. While the developer's conference is primarily about software, what better time and place to get developers excited about writing new apps for new devices ?

Time will tell.

60% of the time, it works all the time

Jun 05, 08 - 11:29 am Comment from: Predrag

Gotta love the Apple rumour mill... It it absolutely fascinating to watch the blogosphere whip itself up into a frenzy over this; and it of course only happens to Apple!

Tablets have failed miserably, despite Bill Gates's obsession with them. He kept plugging them vigorously after XP came out, with zero success. This, however, doesn't tell us anything about the viability of the idea; it only tells us that Microsoft sucks, which we had known already.

If tablet as a concept (and especially the internet tablet) is in fact a viable concept, Apple will be the only one to prove that.

I for one can see how it could find its use. There are many of us with MacBooks in our living room, sitting on our end tables. We use them to google stuff up while watching TV, or to read newspapers, magazines, or whatever, while lying on the couch. Tablet would probably be better for that stuff than a MacBook. If properly done, and properly marketed, the tablet has potential for success.

At this point, though, it's just another entertaining rumour.

@JAYGEE :
"Will it run Mac OS X or the iPhone OS?"

The iPhone OS is OSX.

I thought there was a 10% chance that I'm gay. Now I'm a little worried, maybe it's a 50% chance.

I'll know on Monday

Jun 05, 08 - 11:48 am Comment from: Demon

I'd like to see a larger iPod touch style device in the range of a 7-10" wide screen format with 2GB of RAM (expandable to 4 or 8GB), 120 to 320GB SATA 2.5" Hard drive, 2-4 USB ports, 400 & 800 Firewire ports, HDMI (or DVI) video out, Audio Out, Built-in iSight, BlueTooth, IR, Wi-Fi 802.11N, an express card slot for EVDO type data network card support or other types of cards and even perhaps a GPS.

The chances that Apple making such a device in the next few years is slim to none, though I can see it being the future of the UM Computer. If Apple did make it, it would sell and would define a new type of device category. Make a stripped down model with a card reader and Laser Bar Code Scanner for the perfect portable handheld POS device. Apple could use a few thousand of these themselves for the Apple Stores.

"... a 50-50 chance..." Wow, such insight.

there's a 100% chance these "analysts" are just guessing. and yet they get headlines.

only difference between them and you or I is that they somehow get paid to guess. they really don't know any more about Apple's secret plans than anyone else outside the company or under NDA.

p.s. has anyone tallied up Mr Wu's prediction success rate?

There's a 50/50 chance that I may scratch my rear end in the next hour.
This 50/50 article proves that analysts know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the iPhone except that it is going to be 3G.
This analyst got paid good money to do a 50/50 speculation...what a crock?
We should hire illegals to do analysis...they will work for half the price and WE will get the exact same results.

Jun 05, 08 - 11:59 am Comment from: Connor MacBook

@hs
Actually Apple is now calling them "Leopard OS X" and "iPhone OS X". There is a difference!

The iPhone IS Apple's tablet...why can't people understand that...who wants to carry around, hold up and touch a 7 inch tablet?? Now, a 10" thin flashdrive Macbook is another story. I and my wife would love that. Again, who in their right mind wants to lug around a 7 inch touch tablet? The iPhone is Apple's tablet.

Jun 05, 08 - 12:13 pm Comment from: Ferf Muckmeyer

@Blue Dream,

I'm scratching my ass right now.

There is NO APPLE TABLET besides the iPhone, period. Who is buying tablets in the mass market? HP has a decent one (the tx2000 series), if you want to call a Windows Vista laptop decent. But it ain't gonna sell like a Mac anyway. That said, this is just a pipedream. The supposed return of the Newton or something like it won't happen. If it does, who are they marketing this thing to?

Jun 05, 08 - 12:16 pm Comment from: JAYGEE

@hs - The iPhone OS is OSX.

I know it is, but will it be like on a Mac, or on a iPhone/iPod touch?

Speaking as someone who has had back problems for 19 years, I need something light weight that fits in the footprint of my 12 inch Powerbook or smaller. That way, I could take it to school to take notes and check email and browse a bit. Please don't tell me to get the MBA because while the weight is good, the foot print is way too big for what I need. Some kind of 4 or 7 inch tablet type thing would be perfect. Here's hoping...

iJesture would never work... its a typographical nightmare.

as a college student i can see a huge advantage to this form factor, especially if it is bluetooth compatible with the al keyboard. ive been looking forward to the new iphone so i can ditch my old phone and actually get organized! maybe with 3g data built in and void capability it could be a pretty exciting product, but i would hate to have to carry my man purse with me everywhere so i can answer phone calls.

maybe flatMac?

mw: 'want' ... 50/50 chance of 'do want'

Jun 05, 08 - 12:32 pm Comment from: MCCFR

I hope Shawn Wu has a proctologist that he trusts because he's going to be spending a lot of time with someone picking splinters out of his ass from that fence he's been sitting on.

Jun 05, 08 - 12:32 pm Comment from: Ampar

"Speaking as someone who has had back problems for 19 years, I need something light weight that fits in the footprint of my 12 inch Powerbook or smaller."

You could also tape an iPhone to your lower back and then call yourself repeatedly.

No we won't.

Jun 05, 08 - 12:38 pm Comment from: Buster

"You could also tape an iPhone to your lower back and then call yourself repeatedly."

Would that be Mr. or Mrs. Repeatedly?

Jun 05, 08 - 12:39 pm Comment from: Buster

What is the big deal about this article...I've already got a 7" multi-touch device.


...oh c'mon, someone was going to say it sooner or later...

Jun 05, 08 - 12:41 pm Comment from: MacLovin

Ok, whoever said something about this being a lucrative market, the MacBook Air is a lucrative market! But apple is still selling them... People must love them!! Personally, I wouldn't buy one as my main computer, not enough ports... but I would LOVE a 7" iPhone/iPod Touch like a tablet mac!

Jun 05, 08 - 12:42 pm Comment from: Ampar

To Buster:
Either. Just don't call me Shirley.

Jun 05, 08 - 12:43 pm Comment from: El Guapo

@Macromancer

68% of all statistics and odds are made up on the spot

and the other half are factual

this would be the shit... there are so many possibilities for this type of platform.. what style interface?, will it dock with full size monitor and peripherals?, will it have wimax, or 3G?

can't waitings here.

MDN magic word: set

I would buy one and think there is definitely a market for it. I've actually held off purchasing an iPhone/Touch/Macbook to see if something this would happen this year.

I need something bigger than an iPhone but smaller than a Macbook, for mobile point of sale for example. Maybe Apple store employes could use it instead of their current Symbol/Fujitsu/Windows devices. Some of the strong opinions here remind me of the old "iPod will never have video, because people don't want it" (in reality, it was because Steve implied he didn't want it), even though video was clearly inevitable.

Jun 05, 08 - 01:03 pm Comment from: praus

@MikeR
"It's a Developers conference, ie.; software."

You have to show developers what they're creating software for. I'm not saying this device is or is not likely to be created but it wouldn't be the first time that hardware was heavily discuss at the WWDC. Case in point the iPhone/iPod Touch.

Jun 05, 08 - 01:04 pm Comment from: Mr. Reeee

A 7" unit would be cool.

Especially if I could get some kind of application like VectorWorks Lite to run on the thing. Connect it to a laser measuring device that works with the internal GPS and could input directly into the the thing AND a drawing. Then I could do site surveys.

Then i can jump into my flying car and go home.

7" iPod Touch would be a runaway seller big time.

7" - Games, movies, etc., etc.

It's virtually endless.

Jun 05, 08 - 03:45 pm Comment from: Cubert

I am 100% certain that something either will or will not be introduced next week.

See, I can make predictions, too.

Jun 05, 08 - 03:51 pm Comment from: MCCFR

7" touch device.

If I were AMX or Crestron, I'd be very, very afraid.

I also woudn't be too happy if I worked for Philips' Pronto division.

Just another trick the brockers found to play around with Apple's shares ups and downs!! Damn $ people!

None of this will happen as you expect it, because Steve Jobs can tell what you expect (he consults psychic powers) and will meet it with something a. more suitable and b. more likely to sell.

Not to mention c. revolutionary and d. unexpectedly cool.