MacDailyNews - Where Mac news comes first

 MacDailyNews Poll

Deal of the Day

5 Day Most Commented

Opinion Archive

Current Headlines

Latest Joy of Tech

  • Latest Joy of Tech!

MacNN

AppleInsider

Macworld UK

TUAW

MacRumors

Yahoo! Finance AAPL

iTunes Top 10 Albums

Mac OS X Downloads

Sat, Jul 04, 2009 - 09:56 PM EDT  —  AAPL: 140.02 (-2.81, -1.97%)  |  NASDAQ: 1796.52 (-49.20, -2.67%)

Analyst: Apple iPhone’s impact will be bigger than Asian handset makers think
Monday, July 02, 2007 - 12:40 PM EDT

"Now that analysts and industry executives are getting their first good look at the iPhone, many here are concerned that Asian manufacturers may have underestimated the Apple threat," Martin Fackler reports for The New York Times.

"Analysts and executives in South Korea say that the iPhone, with its full-scale Internet browser and distinctive touch screen with colorful icons, is more than just another souped-up cellphone. They fear this Silicon Valley challenger could leap past Asian makers into the age of digital convergence by combining personal computing and mobile technologies as no device has before," Fackler reports.

"'Apple’s impact will be bigger than Asian handset makers think,' said Kim Yoon-ho, an analyst in Seoul at Prudential Securities. 'The iPhone is different from previous mobile phones. It is the prototype of the future of mobile phones,'" Fackler reports. "The fear now is that Apple may repeat in wireless communications what it accomplished in portable music with the iPod: changing the industry. And just as when the iPod came out six years ago, big Asian manufacturers like Samsung Electronics and Sony could find themselves wondering what hit them, say analysts and industry executives."

Full article here.

Bookmark and Share

Always -- Free ground shipping with orders over $50 at the Apple Store.

Reader Feedback: = registered.
Unregistered users: Feedback from multiple usernames are subject to deletion. Off-topic and posts from suspected astroturfers will be removed.

Jul 02, 07 - 12:48 pm Comment from: bd

It's amazing! When you read this article, the quotes by the Asian manufacturers are almost an identical paraphrase of how they reacted to the ipod. They are going to get slaughtered! Jobs must be in disbelief how short sighted they are.

Jul 02, 07 - 12:48 pm Comment from: CandTsmac

Nuff Said.

Game changer.

MW= they.... as in they are running scared to the R & D rooms
of hell.

Jul 02, 07 - 12:49 pm Comment from: Eric24601

Utter decimation!!!

Jul 02, 07 - 12:49 pm Comment from: trottier

It helps that only Apple has a full fledged OS to work from ... tough for the others to whip one up

Jul 02, 07 - 12:51 pm Comment from: iPhone

Aww, gee, thanks. Thank you very much, but seriously, enough already. This is getting a little embarrassing. I'm just here to do a job, so please, buy me and enjoy, but enough of the gushing flattery and praise.

For now.

iP

Jul 02, 07 - 12:51 pm Comment from: MACBOY2010

iphone is that good.

I have been using it all day at work and it is all it says it is and so much more

best apple product ever!!!!

Jul 02, 07 - 12:59 pm Comment from: Moo

It's amazing what can happen when you let the designers actually design, and keep the bean counters and salesmen (COUGH COUGH BALLMER COUGH) out of the creative process.

Jul 02, 07 - 01:01 pm Comment from: Majikthize

From the article:
"Samsung employees insist, and analysts agree, that Samsung handsets offer better durability and higher performance than the iPhone."

How, exactly, do they measure the durability of a product that's been available for 3 days? As for performance, the last Blackjack owner I talked to said he got only 36 hours standby on a battery charge, which is really, really pathetic.

Jul 02, 07 - 01:02 pm Comment from: macaholic

SAmsung is covered either way, as they make guts for iPods and iPhones

MW-just ice?

Jul 02, 07 - 01:03 pm Comment from: Cubert

I tried out the iPhone at King of Prussia Mall on Saturday. It is amazing! The GUI is liquid. It is responsive and fast as hell! The average buyer will shit themselves as they see new features and functions added to it through software upgrades. They aren't used to that kind of treatment and will be loyal to Apple forever!

Also, I saw many people there who had bought an iPhone on Friday and were back on Saturday to look at the Macs. A few were making their first Mac purchase ever!

Tidal wave time! Apple will have 10+% market share in 1 year's time.

Jul 02, 07 - 01:08 pm Comment from: iLuvMyMacs

"Toto- We're not in Kansas anymore"

Jul 02, 07 - 01:08 pm Comment from: hotinplaya

I say October 15th, any one else want to make a guess, could be sooner, but definitely after this quarter numbers come out.

come on take a guess!

Jul 02, 07 - 01:09 pm Comment from: hotinplaya

sorry about that, I am guessing when the CEO of Verizon, will be gone, the same guy who turned down the iPhone, iWhatever

Jul 02, 07 - 01:10 pm Comment from: No Squirt For You

And the Asian copycats with unabashed trade dress infringement are inevitable. You can still find Bondi Blue iMac ripoffs (running a bootlegged XP) in Hong Kong and Shanghai almost ten years later.

Jul 02, 07 - 01:12 pm Comment from: MikeR

I believe Steve warned them in January. And still they didn't heed the warning. The horror!

Jul 02, 07 - 01:19 pm Comment from: No Squirt For You

"Sony Ericsson plans this fall to introduce its latest Walkman phone, the W960i . . ."

The W960i. How exciting! It just rolls off the tongue.

Jul 02, 07 - 01:29 pm Comment from: Cleetus

...and this is important because....what? Sony's still relevant? C'mon...this isn't news!

Jul 02, 07 - 02:31 pm Comment from: KingMel

Their fear is our joy...

If a significant number of people could accurately predict the future, then we wouldn't reward analysts, stockbrokers and CEOs for guessing.

There are few true visionaries. Find them and follow them.

MDN MW: 'few'

Jul 02, 07 - 02:32 pm Comment from: anti-creative cretin

A cattle man out here in the west aint got no better friend than the iPhone. There was a time when the coyote made him his music and the prairie dog was his only peyote ...I mean ringtone. Through the campfire I see tumbleweeds blowing in the wind on their way to Asia. I won't have to wonder no more if there's such a thing as an Asian cowgirl ...now I just ask the iPhone. I'm thinking thoughts no cowboy ought ever to think in his whole damn life ...and iPhone done it all ..and it aint through, yet. No, sirree ...aint no ways through.

Jul 02, 07 - 03:21 pm Comment from: gzero

The iPhone is further proof of the old saying, "It's not what you have, but how you use it that's important." wink

Jul 02, 07 - 03:22 pm Comment from: Synthmeister

A few things struck me funny with this article…

"Samsung, South Korea’s biggest cellphone maker, will unveil its Ultra Smart F700,…"
(If your phone is smart, our phone is "Ultra Smart!")

“We can take advantage of being a follower,” he said." "It’s the same method Korean manufacturers have used before — quickly developing similar products that are cheaper but which contain a few more features than Apple, he said. That strategy has not diminished iPod’s dominance in the music-player market… (Great strategy?!)

"For its part, Samsung says it is ready for Apple’s challenge, offering a far broader range of high-end products." (Far broader range of crap is still crap.)

"“Tech-wise, the iPhone is not so advanced,” said S. Jay Yim, vice president of overseas marketing at Pantech. “But Apple makes up for that in content and software." (What exactly is he saying here? The iPhone is not advanced but Apple makes it advanced?—We'll forget the fact that this "expert's" company, Pantech, recently underwent a bank-led revamping…)

Which is to say, they still don't get it. If they couldn't copy the iPod after six years, (with it's ridiculously simple interfaceand tech) they will never even come close to the iPhone for the next decade.

Jul 02, 07 - 03:41 pm Comment from: Woody

Is anyone else getting the sense that the iPhone really can do all those things attributed to Chuck Norris? I can see the t-shirts now...

"iPhone can divide by zero."

MW: start... Time to start a new internet meme.

Jul 02, 07 - 04:05 pm Comment from: LinuxGuy and Mac Prodigal Son

@trottier,

"It helps that only Apple has a full fledged OS to work from ... tough for the others to whip one up."

You nailed it. OS X is the secret sauce and no amount of posturing by the competition can save their sorry asses from being crushed by this superior OS. It took Apple about a decade of development -- including the time spent at NeXT to develop and refine OS X.

First, competitors will have to “get it” to solve the right problem. Then they will have to develop a competing OS and all of the software stacks – including the interface stack -- that make OS X such a winner. It will take many years and big bucks.

The competition is fscked.

Jul 02, 07 - 04:43 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

Apple has no chance against the big Asian prayers.

Jul 02, 07 - 04:46 pm Comment from: ken1w

Once again, Apple shows the advantage of controlling the software and hardware and interface to the computer (iTunes). It will be almost impossible for competitors to match it. All they can do is rely on Microsoft to supply Windows Mobile. No matter how good they make the hardware, it will always be stuck with inferior software, whether it's Windows Mobile or some other choice. Just like in the personal computer world...

Jul 02, 07 - 06:15 pm Comment from: R2

I said from the day the iPhone was announced that Samsung posed the greatest threat. You'll see soon. Nobody can move as quickly as they do when it comes to mobile phones.

The Koreans are coming.

Jul 02, 07 - 06:39 pm Comment from: D2

You got it. The Koreans are coming.

Trouble is we all know what a cell phone should be capable of now. We didn't know that before iPhone.

Jul 02, 07 - 06:59 pm Comment from: Mac-nugget

R2-D2
The problem that they face is 3 fold
1) OS X running the phone
2) iTunes Integration
3) Patents all over this device.
I am not saying it's impossible, however, it's pretty unlikely.

Jul 02, 07 - 08:13 pm Comment from: zerO

@ChrissyOne
You are broad and blonde to booth, what do you know about Asian "prayers" - Freudian or not , most Asians and Aseans are Animist and will not really be praying, so too the Buddhist. Either you are going to Dvorakian or trolling with a statement like that. Lip-gloss time grrl

MDN - late , like are you late?

Jul 02, 07 - 10:31 pm Comment from: R2

I agree that it won't be as complete a system, particularly with OS X and iTunes. In fact there probably won't be an ecosystem at all with most competing products.

However, Samsung can get close, likely even surpassing the iPhone on other fronts for a cheaper price tag. In this country, that's more than good enough.

But most important of all is that Samsung will be able to create products for every carrier. The iPhone isn't the iPod where I can purchase it no strings attached. As long as Apple has to drag AT&T;behind them like dead weight, they'll be at a disadvantage no matter how great the phones are. Many don't want to leave their carrier for a phone and will gladly settle with what comes close if it's their only option as a person who's happy with their Verizon, T-Mobile, Sprint service and plan.

Idiots cite no 3G, no MMS, no whatever feature they can think of as the iPhone's greatest disadvantage. No, the iPhone's biggest con is the partner that it relies on. There's a void for people who want an iPhone but are hesitant to become an AT&T;customer (like me) and it will soon be exploited.

Jul 03, 07 - 02:04 am Comment from: twilightmoon@mac.com

R2"There's a void for people who want an iPhone but are hesitant to become an AT&T;customer (like me) and it will soon be exploited."

No.

There's nothing to "exploit" if someone is not willing to leave a non AT&T;service provider, they are a non-issue. If someone wants an iPhone there will be no competition, they need to get one from AT&T;nothing made by a competitor will be close.

Not today, not tomorrow, or the day after tomorrow, or in a few months.

This is something so dramatically far ahead of anything else out there, it will be many years before we see anything else come close.

Jul 03, 07 - 03:13 am Comment from: Tom

I think also we shouldn't underestimate Apple. Just as the others 'catch up' (so to speak), Apple will revolutionise another aspect of the phone market...
I'd say more but to be honest even my guesses at what Apple might do will give the others ideas...
I'll keep quiet and let Apple take us all by surprise!

Jul 03, 07 - 09:38 am Comment from: pido

I wonder if Apple will pair up with the Orange carrier from UK ?

Jul 03, 07 - 03:38 pm Comment from: Apple-Mat

I would like O2, but good price plans and iPhone without branding makes Vodafone and T-Mobile more acceptable.
As long as the iPhone is not here, my K750i will do it as it works with iSync smoothly.

Jul 04, 07 - 08:30 pm Comment from: We-Tu

"....their fear feeds our assault"

Reader feedback page 1 of 1 pages:

Always -- Free ground shipping with orders over $50 at the Apple Store.

Add Your Feedback:

Register or Login

Name:

Email: (optional)

Emoticons | Allowed HTML Tags

Remember my info   Notify me of follow-up comments?

Please enter the "MDN Magic Word" you see in the image below: