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Nov 21, 07 - 06:36 pm Comment from: M.X.N.T.4.1.

Does that include iPhones? If it doesn't it's all the more impressive because at least some people will have an iPhone where they may have bought an iPod this quarter.

MDN,

I like you too!

No, it doesn't include iPhones.

Notice that many of those iPods are iPod Touch with high average selling price, therefore high revenue for december 2007 quarter

Nov 21, 07 - 07:10 pm Comment from: MCCFR

25-26 million iPods seems like a fair bet, but - more importantly - there is the prospect of the average revenue/unit being increased from last year's $163 (the average for FY07 was $161); if the iPod Touch shifts in sufficient volume, there is a possibility that the numbers might increase to as much as $200 (a level not seen for 18 months) which would have the effect of bringing in $5 billion of revenue.

For a sense of perspective – something which would be of benefit to the shareholder group that is going after Apple's management for a second time – it is worth noting that, for the same quarter back in 2000 (Q1/01), Apple somehow contrived to make a loss of $195 million. A further fact worth noting is that total revenue (net sales) for the whole of FY2001 was $5.36 billion for a total loss of $25 million.

Personally, I'm prepared to put my money on a $9 billion quarter; a figure which – in itself – exceeds the revenue for the whole of FY2004.

Nov 21, 07 - 07:27 pm Comment from: KingMel

I could see far more than that - perhaps 30+ million considering the tremendous appeal of the new nanos and the novelty of the iPod touch. I have four kids ranging from 6 to 11 and two of them are getting an 8GB nano with a hand-me-down 1GB nano going to the third kid. I don't even have one...

My mother-in-law has two shuffles, each dedicated to a specific type of content. This is only the beginning.

I honestly believe that both U.S. sales and worldwide sales of iPods will be incredible this holiday season.

Nov 21, 07 - 07:47 pm Comment from: Zune Tang®

Piper Jaffray is kidding, right? What analyst school did they graduate from? Moron University?

Now if these idiots replace 'i-POD' with 'Zune' in their analysis they might be onto something. Would it kill you MAC lemmings & so-called analysts to at least look at a Zune? Once you go Zune you don't go back. You see it squirt once and you know you gotta have it.

25 million Zunes, 900 i-PODs this quarter. You read it here first.

Your potential. Our passion.™

@Zune Tang®

put down the jenkem. btw, i keep mine in a brown Zune i found in a dumpster.


magic word" "end", as in my luv for C1n seems to be a dead "end", so far. i may as well "end" it all. (after aapl hits 250.)

Can't wait for those iPod touch figures.

Nov 21, 07 - 08:29 pm Comment from: MCCFR

@ Zune Tang…

it wouldn't kill me, but it would probably hurt my eyes.

A nice number, but "only" a 20% gain (though the numbers are so big the days of 100% gains are long ago).

Still, Apple's financial forecasts were above the street this quarter, and Apple is famous for lowballing the forecast so they can crush it.

But they also said macs would be flat to slightly down (seasonality) and we know iPhones are accounted for as subscriptions, so they can't cause a huge bump in revenues/profits.

Based on that, this number seems a little low... unless it is all about selling higher priced ipods. Hmm... a shift from away from shuffles due to video? Yeah, that could be the thought.

Nov 21, 07 - 09:13 pm Comment from: Grigori

I have absolutely nothing to say about this article; I would, however, like to wish all my fellow MDNers a happy Thanksgiving. Eat well, drive safe.

In a pigs eye!

http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com

Nov 21, 07 - 10:38 pm Comment from: silverhawk

I'll buy my iPod Touch on Friday. I'll hand down my 5.5g 30g iPod w/video to my daughter who will in turn pass her (ex-mine) 3g iPod to whomever she pleases. And the cycle repeats.

Nov 21, 07 - 10:48 pm Comment from: SKY LARK

More than 45 million turkeys are killed each year at Thanksgiving, and more than 22 million die at Christmas.

Before ending up as holiday centerpieces, these gentle, intelligent birds spend five to six months on factory farms where thousands of them are packed into dark sheds with no more than 3.5 square feet of space per bird. Turkeys on factory farms are denied everything that is natural to them, such as foraging for food, dustbathing, and raising their young.

Turkeys won’t breathe fresh air or feel the sun on their backs until they’re shoved onto trucks bound for slaughter. They are transported for hours without food or water through all weather extremes—and many will die on this nightmarish journey.

At the slaughterhouse, the survivors are hung upside-down by their weak and crippled legs before their heads are dragged through an electrified “stunning tank,” which immobilizes but does not kill them. Many birds dodge the tank and are still fully conscious when their throats are slit. If the knife fails to properly cut the birds’ throats, they are scalded alive in the tank of boiling water used for feather removal.

[url="http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming_turkeys.asp
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Happy Thanksgiving

Happy Thanksgiving



Spare a thought! - If only we could be as passionate about stopping the cruelty to animals as we are as passionate about Apple Inc.

Happy Holidays.

Nov 21, 07 - 10:52 pm Comment from: SKY LARK

MAY BE THIS TIME

If youse got yerselfs some smart comments, feel free to display your talent ... here.

Nov 21, 07 - 11:07 pm Comment from: mike_in_helsinki

I would prefer my turkey assassinated before cooking in the oven.

Nov 22, 07 - 12:12 am Comment from: R

Yes, but won't someone please think about the lentils?! For goodness' sake!

Best way to do in a turkey is to shotgun it's head clean off.

Then cut off it's hands and feed them to the pigs.

I think I've been watching too much TV.

Nov 22, 07 - 01:16 am Comment from: TowerTone

"Like chickens, the 300 million turkeys raised and killed for their flesh every year in the United States have no federal legal protection."

My God, they might as well be in Guantanamo....!!!

@TowerTone
LOL - You almost sent my coffee down the wrong pipe!

Nov 22, 07 - 07:17 am Comment from: Ampar

"Best way to do in a turkey is to shotgun it's head clean off."

In some places, they call that getting "cheneyed".


"intelligent birds"

You lost me right there. Turkeys are smart like Ballmer is slim.

Nov 22, 07 - 07:45 am Comment from: Ampar

If you get really bored, you can charge your iPod using onions and Gatorade:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfPJeDssBOM

Think of the many tons of global-warming greenhouse gases those 67 million turkeys will no longer be emitting. What's a leftist to do?

Anyway the rest of us will enjoy the holiday weekend consuming nice tasty cuts of turkey, and maybe buying an iPod or two.

Nov 22, 07 - 09:51 am Comment from: HueyLong

Good on you Sky Lark. The only meat I now eat is turkey and very occasionally - maybe once a month. But it has to be organic, free-range.

Even that indulgence will be ended before much longer. The methods of meat production in factory farms is the worst kind of appalling treatment we humans hand out to other species. Reading reports would make any decent person want to vomit.

Damn straight Zune Tang...
your predictions are truly accurate.

I am starting to love my brown turd again.
Ya gotta love the classics!

ron

Nov 22, 07 - 10:46 am Comment from: LinuxGuyAndMacProdigalSon

My son is getting a shuffle for running. He is currently using a 5G iPod, which is a bit large, mounted on an arm band. I am getting a 16GB iPod touch for the holidays. We are doing our share.

This Zune Tang fellow - one questions whether he has ever felt the touch of a woman, he spends so much time and effort posting here.

Nov 22, 07 - 12:58 pm Comment from: SKY LARK

Is there is any benefit in being a speciesist while simultaneously being fundamentally unenlightened with respect to it?
However - Ignorance is a right! Education is eroding one of the few democratic freedoms remaining to us.

-

Big ups to you Huey.

Nov 22, 07 - 03:14 pm Comment from: LorD1776

That's not the worst of it. I've heard that a lot of those turkeys are forced to participate in S & M and Satanic rituals before they are raped, sodomized, scalded and beheaded. Poor little things. Oh and by the way, try sticking your face up close to one of those gentle creatures and see how long you keep your eyeballs. Well, I'm getting ready to sit down right now and engulf my big bird. Have a good one people.

Don't mean to add to this wildly off-topic discussion about turkeys, but there IS a law to ban unnecessary cruelty to animals to be used for food - - in other words, it's against the law to torture cows for sport as they're being raised and processed. There is, however, an exemption for birds (chickens, ducks and turkeys), which represent 98% of the animals consumed entering the US food supply.

There are lots of documented cases where workers have been caught being pretty inhumane towards animals headed to our dinner plates. Pretty sick, if you ask me.

Nov 22, 07 - 04:09 pm Comment from: LorD1776

MikeK,
All kidding aside, I agree with you. There is absolutely no reason to abuse these or any creatures. They should be raised and treated in the most humane way as possible. After all, they are giving their lives unwillingly for our sustenance and we should be grateful for that. Most people take these things for granted and don't know the facts. My flippant remarks were not meant to downplay a serious issue.

Nov 22, 07 - 04:22 pm Comment from: Cubert

Happy Turkey Day to all the MDN'ers!

Nov 22, 07 - 05:54 pm Comment from: twilightmoon

Here's my answer to you leftist meat-is-murder types:

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=grill

oh, and:

Sponsor a vegetarian:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sponsor

Nov 22, 07 - 09:24 pm Comment from: TowerTone

That was hilarious, twi. Where you been? Oh, and I thought they only ate free range wheat.....

ZT - Apple must have already sold over 5M iPods in October.

My bet is 30M pods this quarter. With 1.5 M iphones included in that number.

Profit will be obscene - remember Apple quoted pretty aggressive numbers meaning that that is the conservative number.

Nov 22, 07 - 11:16 pm Comment from: William Henry Gates III KBE

"Analyst expects Microsoft to sell record 25 Zunes in holiday quarter"

Yup, I have it on good authority from Steve Ballmer that we can manage that. Such strong sales, Steve says, will push our stock price through the roof. Hold or buy, people, hold or buy!

The methods of meat production in factory farms is the worst kind of appalling treatment we humans hand out to other species.

You have a better way of feeding ~6.6 billion people? No insult intended, just an honest question.

Think what you want of factory farms. But either we have mass-scale food production (including meats), or we starve.

Something to ponder in our post-Thanksgiving food comas...

Zunes have sold out on Amazon and are hottest selling item!

http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com

Nov 23, 07 - 05:56 am Comment from: SKY LARK

@twilightmoon

Well, no there is no denying that the link you provided was an interesting diatribe ... Social issues, anybody? However, your beloved lucid, rational and gifted linguistician; "Maddox" at "the best page in the universe.net" is very obviously not a friend of Apple or Apple's sublime products.

Out of interest, are you in accordance with his aspersions with reference to Apple, I'm interested to know, as you have presented him a champion and representative of your thoughts.

The links below, have to be seen to be belived.

Maddox Apple Mac Hater

Maddox iPhone Hater


@@huey ... "You have a better way of feeding ~6.6 billion people?"
Wiki, Factory Farming, a basic starting point