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Analyst: MacBooks are best consumer notebooks Apple has created, sure to be big winners
Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 12:27 PM EST

"With the release of the new MacBook series of laptops, Apple finally enters the world of thin and light laptops," Tim Bajarin writes for Technology Pundits. "Up to now, the MacBook’s predecessor, the iBook, has been Apples best selling portable computer even though it was boxy and a bit on the heavy side. But these new models clearly bring Apple and their new portables into a segment of the market that continues to be the fastest growing area for laptops and where thin and light portables have the lion’s share the market."

MacDailyNews Take: "Apple finally enters the world of thin and light laptops?" Wha? Uh, 12-inch PowerBook, Mr. Bajarin? Heck, the 15-inch PowerBook G4, introduced over five years ago in January 2001, qualifies as "thin and light" at 1-inch thin and just 5.3 lbs. If Bajarin meant "consumer" laptops, he should have qualified it as such. Apple's been leading the world of thin and light laptops for many years with their PowerBook models.

Bajarin writes, "These are the best consumer notebooks Apple has created and are sure to be big winners with a lot of mainstream consumers. Although they start at $1099, they are really good buys given that they all have Core Duo processors and thanks to Apple’s Bootcamp software, can run OSX and Windows XP. The black MacBook could be a Trojan Horse to get MacBooks into mainstream business markets. The consumerish look of the white iBooks did not necessarily look like business machines but the black version could pass as a Lenovo ThinkPad but with Apple’s famous Logo on it. Plus it can run OS X and Windows. I believe that this version could end up in a lot of business users hands who have lusted after the ease of use of OS X but have to live in a Windows IT world. With these new laptops, Apple clearly takes aim at a broader market for mobile devices where thin and light designs are important and no-compromise machines are driving the exceptional growth in portable computers over desktops."

Full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Most business people that we see with Apple notebooks carry PowerBooks and, now, MacBook Pro models - of which Bajarin has apparently never heard - that offer features such as PC Card and ExpressCard slots that iBooks and MacBooks do not. MacBooks are for consumers. MacBook Pros are for professionals. It's pretty simple. That said, we do agree with Bajarin that Apples' new MacBooks are best consumer notebooks Apple has created and are sure to be big winners with a lot of mainstream consumers.

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May 18, 06 - 12:34 pm Comment from: It Never Ends

Hype, that is. The new MacBooks are NOT READY - noisy heaters, they are.

Wait until Apple fixes 'em or they will never quit introducing crappy products or even admit they have these problems.

Sales guy at my Apple store, after looking over his shoulder, told me to wait until they worked like they are suppose to. No joke.

May 18, 06 - 12:41 pm Comment from: b

Well I know this guy, who knows a lot about computers and even works at a computer store, and he says to go ahead and buy, this is Apple's best first run machine ever.

May 18, 06 - 01:01 pm Comment from: Bill Rancine

they are great because they are just like windows laptops - have intel chip inside and can run windows os.

May 18, 06 - 01:02 pm Comment from: Best Buy

Best? I guess they haven't been over to the Apple discussion forums.

May 18, 06 - 01:02 pm Comment from: Macfanboy #12

mdn: "MacBooks are for consumers. MacBook Pros are for professionals."

what is a progessional? A doctor, lawyer, teacher...what?

May 18, 06 - 01:05 pm Comment from: beware...

"Hype, that is. The new MacBooks are NOT READY - noisy heaters, they are."

... piss of yoda, and he'll cauterize your pixels.

May 18, 06 - 01:10 pm Comment from: wonderboy

Bill -- that was one of the stupidist comments I've seen here (and that's going some). Get a hold on reality, man! You're a dumbass!

May 18, 06 - 01:12 pm Comment from: KenC

Remember, the MacBook replaces the iBook line and the 12" PB. And, if you need it spelled out even more clearly, the white MBs replace the iBooks, and the black one replaces the 12" PB, so saying that many corporate types will get a black MB instead of a MBP is not far-fetched.

May 18, 06 - 01:14 pm Comment from: Artist

"the black version could pass as a Lenovo ThinkPad but with Apple’s famous Logo on it."

Was that supposed to be a compliment?

May 18, 06 - 01:16 pm Comment from: Yep

Several posts over at Apple MacBook discussions with examples of noise problems. Applecare says these are 'normal' operation.

So, if you like whines, static, hums, and hoots with your laptop, now is the time to run right down and buy yourself one of these bad boys!

May 18, 06 - 01:20 pm Comment from: Mark

I'd agree with this article IF these macbooks didn't have integrated graphics.

May 18, 06 - 01:28 pm Comment from: Bottom Line

You can't make a loptop this skinny with Intel inside without the extreme heat and noise problems. Same thing is true for Pro version.

Not even Apple.

But, all of Steve's legions will shell out hard earned, even borrowed, money to get the cutest of portables, all the while ignoring how silly we look to serious laptop users.

May 18, 06 - 01:31 pm Comment from: wannabe

I work in IT. Not a single one of my users needs any feature whatsoever that isn't present in the Macbook. None of my users ever use any kind of expansion cards as any device they attach will be USB or Firewire. None of my users have ever had a laptop with an aluminum or otherwise metal case. None of my users does any video task more demanding than playing a DVD on an airplane, so integrated graphics are fine.

May 18, 06 - 01:35 pm Comment from: jonnyG

I just headed over to Apple's disussion forums...man are there problems with the MacBook Pro. Apple better get ontop of this. I've never seen the discussion forums so full of problems/issues with an Apple product before.

May 18, 06 - 01:37 pm Comment from: jonnyG

""the black version could pass as a Lenovo ThinkPad but with Apple’s famous Logo on it."

Was that supposed to be a compliment?"

Yes, it is. My Thinkpad T40 is probable the best piece of computer equipment I've ever owned. Simply amazing.

May 18, 06 - 01:38 pm Comment from: ishufflemyfeet

I ordered one last night!

Processor06563061.83GHz Intel Core Duo
Memory06562331GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM 2x512
Hard Drive065622660GB Serial ATA drive
Optical Drive0656230Combo Drive
Modem0656513No Modem
Apple Software Solutions0656200No Optional Software
Adapter0656515No Optional Adapter
Keyboard/Mac OS Language0656235Keyboard/Mac OS
Country Kit/AEX0656313Airport Extreme Card andBT

Yeah baby! Can't wait!

May 18, 06 - 01:41 pm Comment from: Thorin

This is so typical, Apple gets some good press,

and most of you weenies break fire up your the

flamethrowers. I bet the majority of you are too

young to sound like such cranks. mad

May 18, 06 - 01:42 pm Comment from: Spark

My MBP 15" has never made any strange noise. There is a VERY quiet hum when the fans are running, but other than that it is silent. It DOES get hot however when running full blast.

May 18, 06 - 01:43 pm Comment from: Thorin

Break out the flamethrowers and fire them up I

meant. My meds are running low.

May 18, 06 - 01:45 pm Comment from: Huh?

What are you "integrated graphics" morons talking about. Complain about the graphics chip if you like, even tho you don't have a lot of ground to stand on there either, but...

How many notebooks have ever had anything but integrated graphics you fsking dum sheets!

Get your terminology straight!

May 18, 06 - 01:55 pm Comment from: Herodotus

Tom Cruise doesn't know the history of history. I do.

May 18, 06 - 01:56 pm Comment from: RC

"Best? I guess they haven't been over to the Apple discussion forums."

Yeah, and if you go to Dell's forums you'll find thousands of posts there complaining about the poor quality of their notebooks too. That's what those support forums are for...when you have a problem. The majority who are running problem free aren't on any online forums posting about it, they're busy doing work.

May 18, 06 - 01:59 pm Comment from: GWMDN

MDN, you're right that the "Pro"-tagged portables are for, well, Pros.

However, working at a Fortune 500 company, I know what Bajarin means. Anyone that sees the white iBook/MacBook will look twice and ask what you're using, and why. (Same with the PowerBooks/MacBook Pros, which REALLY stand out!)

But a black MacBook is what Bajarin says, a possible trojan horse. Looks like any other Dell or ThinkPad in the shop.

Even if it's not what Apple intended (a notebook for professionals, or even a trojan), it may still serve those purposes.

May 18, 06 - 02:00 pm Comment from: Mike

So many Micro$oft fanboys here today.
To it Never Ends and Bill and the likes:
Scroll down the headlines and when you get this one take the time to read the article. Perhaps then you won't sound so stupid.

Apple firmware update fixes MacBook Pro overheating; jury still out on 'whine'
Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 08:36 AM EDT

The whine will never end as it comes from the MS zealots.

May 18, 06 - 02:04 pm Comment from: stantheman

"Yeah, and if you go to Dell's forums you'll find thousands of posts there complaining about the poor quality of their notebooks too. That's what those support forums are for...when you have a problem. The majority who are running problem free aren't on any online forums posting about it, they're busy doing work."

But, but MDN keeps telling me Apple products are perfect...what gives?

May 18, 06 - 02:07 pm Comment from: jonnyg

"The whine will never end as it comes from the MS zealots."

Yeah, all those posting detailed problems with their MacBook's on Apple Discussion boards are MS zealots. Apple should hire you to work tech support and inform all these posters that their "whine" problems are just figments of their imagination.

What a bunch of MS zealots....sheesh!

May 18, 06 - 02:09 pm Comment from: Mike

It got quiet here. Either the M$ zealots are reading the article or the local library kicked them off the computers.

May 18, 06 - 02:10 pm Comment from: Switched

You must be a bunch of pansies if you think the Macbooks get too hot. My MBP 17" has been working hard today and did not get too hot at all.

The fans are very quiet too.

I don't know what's up with you lot!

May 18, 06 - 02:13 pm Comment from: Alice

I drove down to my local store and tried out all the macbooks, all seemed to work fantastically and smoothly... I worried about the keyboard, but nope, just fine... They still had some ibooks and in comparison, the macbooks are gorgeous while the ibooks look horrible. That is: in comparion, I still liked the ibooks.

May 18, 06 - 02:14 pm Comment from: themacone

"How many notebooks have ever had anything but integrated graphics you fsking dum sheets!"

hmmm...oh, I don't know...maybe all prior iBooks and PowerBooks.

If anyone wants a real laugh, do a archive search on all of MDN's previous comments on "integrated video." That's of course if MDN hasn't deleted those along with his/her wonderful comments on Intel processors.

May 18, 06 - 02:15 pm Comment from: Mike

Apple doesn't make "perfect" products. No company does. But Apple does make the best quality hardware, software and of course OSX. I've still got my old LCII, CI, 8500/150 and they still work fine, albeit a bit slow. I never went on a support forum for them because they just work. Same with my G4' PPC and my notebook. If I have a problem I can't figure out I just post the question here and some good hearted Mac zealot answers it. No problem!

May 18, 06 - 02:26 pm Comment from: Big Al

The MacBooks just went on sale. How could thousands of complaints be on the forums already?

Oh, they are old complaints about problems with MacBook Pros. Problems that, for the most part, have been fixed.

Seems the Trolls can't read.

Is Microsoft that scared that they have employees troll the Mac sites?

May 18, 06 - 02:48 pm Comment from: Boo Frickety Hoo

Happy cheese yardstick cesspool.

May 18, 06 - 02:49 pm Comment from: Thorin

"I've still got my old LCII, CI, 8500/150 and they still work fine, albeit a bit slow."

Holy crap Mike, you still have a IIci? I used to

do board level repair on those in '92 when the

logic boards still sold for like $3000 (and they

were getting old then). They were the best until

the IIfx came out at a blistering 40mhz. Good

times.

May 18, 06 - 03:07 pm Comment from: stormy

Why is the stock continueing (sp) to tank?

May 18, 06 - 03:17 pm Comment from: clyde

What's not to like about the new macbooks? Besides my DP 2ghz G5 Powermac, I've got a generic P4M laptop with 32meg integrated graphics.

The laptop at 2.2ghz and 512 meg ram, is pretty freakin' fast when it comes to running windows applications. The only thing it will NOT do is run the latest, greatest, demanding games. That's okay, because I use the laptop to do WORK out of the house. Okay, okay, okay, AND to surf the internet, play solitare and occasionally watch a DVD or two on the road.

Will the new macbooks handle the latest, greatest games? Probably not; that's why they have desktops and the macbook pro. But the specs on the macbook look great for most computer users, and for an Apple, the price isn't terribly bad. Personally, I'm surprised and pleased that they put in so many features in the consumer laptop, such as the i-Sight, Front Row, etc. And now I can run my necessary Windows apps for work and use OSX for the rest.

Geez, guys, have portable computers ever been as powerful as, and had all the features of, contempory desktops? Without costing two or three times as much?

May 18, 06 - 03:18 pm Comment from: blucaso

Stormy:

Because the market is down. Watch the financial news or read a newspaper.

May 18, 06 - 03:32 pm Comment from: MacMania

Macfanboy #12 said: "what is a progessional? A doctor, lawyer, teacher...what?"

Good question Macfanboy #12. MDN has obviously fallen prey to the marketing hype. I just gave my old PowerBook to my 12 year old. He loves using it and he is not a "professional".

What say we stop labeling people and let them buy and use what ever the hell they want?

raspberry

May 18, 06 - 03:33 pm Comment from: stockmarket

...and Dell passes Apple's market cap again (55B vs 53B). What did MDN say again? That the next time Apple passes Dell's market cap, there's no looking back? Prophetic, that. NOT.

Stock markets ebb and flow. Tomorrow Apple might pass Dell again, and then we'll get another headline from MDN about how Apple is trumping Dell. But right now? Not a peep.

May 18, 06 - 03:48 pm Comment from: Grifterus

I have an Apple II !!!

Works like heaven !!!

I also have a Mac (original), a Mac Plus and a NeXTstation!!

They ALL work great!!!

I know, this has nothing to do with the discussion. I just wanted to brag a little about my odl computers, hehehe!!

(OK, now you can make fun of me...)

May 18, 06 - 04:06 pm Comment from: FactChecker

stockmarket,

Let's check what MDN really stated:

"Apple Computer is now worth more than Dell in a race whose leadership is likely to oscillate a bit in the near term (before Apple pulls away for good)."

Source: http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/apple_passes_dell_in_market_value/

The operative phrase, stockmarket, would be: ...likely to oscillate a bit in the near term...

You lose.

May 18, 06 - 04:13 pm Comment from: wonderboy

Stormy: If your question is actually meant to imply that the stock is down due to possible product problems such as those under discussion -- then you lack basic intelligence (or translated for your level -- "You're a dumbass idiot")

Read comments from blucaso!

May 18, 06 - 04:24 pm Comment from: Nick

Forget the MacBook, get a refurbished MacBook Pro for $1599 from the Apple store online. Just 0.4 pounds heavier, with a much larger and higher resolution display, powerful x1600 graphics, an expansion port, dual-link DVI and a superdrive standard.

May 18, 06 - 04:37 pm Comment from: stockmarket

FactChecker:

Thanks for pointing that out. However, I think the operative term is "before Apple pulls away for good", implying that at some point Dell will never catch up with Apple. Like I said, stocks ebb and flow (NOT just in the nebulous "near term"; at some point that becomes "long term"). It's stupid to say that Apple will pull away for good; just as stupid as what Michael Dell said.

So, I lose? Lose what? And what do you win exactly? The fawning adoration of the MDN masses? No thanks, I'll pass.

May 18, 06 - 04:49 pm Comment from: ron

May 18, 06 - 07:35 pm Comment from: macaholic

professional users are ones that can write off the purchase on theri taxes. Consumers are the ones who don't

May 18, 06 - 08:08 pm Comment from: Ampar

"Consumers are the ones who don't"

Unless you can get away it of course. : )

May 19, 06 - 12:37 am Comment from: whatever

I'm typing this on my new black macbook - and I have to say that this is the best laptop that apple has ever made - this thing is so solid-thin-and-light and you have to see and touch it ton know how nice the matte black finish is. And this thing is very very quiet. - I just wish it had a backlit keyboard like my 17" powerbook.

May 19, 06 - 02:14 am Comment from: Jooop

I like how he holds up a Lenovo ThinkPad as some pinnacle of corporate style.

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