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I'd rather see a Trojan rabbit roll into my living room. Besides, I didn't know Apple TV was ribbed. Is that for me?

I want my AppleTV!

Wonder if they'll be talking about the TV "Halo-Effect" .. six months from now ...

Does anyone still buy MSNTV (nee WebTV)? Does anyone really care?

Have they started shipping? My order still says Mar20...

P.S. I want LEOPARD!!!

Before the tv changes the world, IT HAS TO BE RELEASED!!!

When the bloody f--- is the damned tv gonna be released? Right now tv is just well-reported vaporware.

Trojan horses in the living room: WebTV. XBox. Windows Media Center. XBox 360. Wii. PlayStation 3. AppleTV. Gotta start building a barn for all these horses.

@ Tommy Boy

A little anxious, maybe ?

The difference is.. the last "VaporWare" I can remember being associated with Apple, was called "Copeland"... That was more than a couple years ago..

A wise man once said ...".. Good things come to those who wait .."

Meanwhile, Microsoft will be riding its Vista + Zune Trojan condom, on the inside.

They can't right a Trojan Horse into the living room if nobody's buying the Trojan Horse. Apple TV is a ridiculous product with zero interest from consumers. It isn't even in Apple's Top 10 list, and I can't wait to laugh at its numbers on Amazon.com. AppleTV is not a DVR, it's not a DVD player, it's not a game machine. The only frickin' thing it does is stream iTunes content -- it won't even stream DVD's you insert into your computer! This device is absolutely worthless! Nobody wants this and nobody needs this! OH, AND BY THE WAY -- YOU'LL HAVE TO UPGRADE YOUR ENTIRE TELEVISION SET TO A HDTV, TOO. Absolutely ridiculous. Apple should be ASHAMED of themselves for coming up with a worthless product like this.

Yeah, we've been calling iTunes a trojan horse ever since it was first released for Windows, haven't we? And I keep waiting for the PC folks to start acting like something actually did hit 'em. Ah well .. soon they will, I keep telling myself.

I'll say this much .. if a large percentage of those dudes ever does truly get on board .. there's a bunch of us that are likely to have to find a new line of patter, I'm suspecting.

@ MacBill

Judging by the reactions given by a lot of the posters here at MDN, I'd say your estimate is slightly askew..

Who knows ? .. Could be the TV just might have more capabilities than what you suggest !

I'm not yet ready to call it a "fad"... 'cause lots of pundits said that about the iPod, when it was first released !

"Hoopes kept his buy rating and $120 price target on Apple's stock unchanged."

Does anyone know the importance of this? Why do these guys always announce a 'target price'? Are you suppose to sell at this price or are they just estimating what your stock will hopefully be worth some day?

Anyone know how this works?

Lately whenever analysts start trying to describe the net effect of Apple's next thing, they're basically describing a steamroller. That's definitely the case here. Of course the hype tends to get bigger than life so there's always a slight let down after the fact, but Apple is clearly in the running and I hope they continue to do above average in the long run. My personal hope, and the real litmus test from my pov, will be seeing the Macintosh pc become a lot more prolific - Looks like that may be beginning to happen as well.

The AppleTV is a DVD player, in that is does what a DVD player does - but via content the user has in iTunes.

While at this very moment, things are a bit sparce (out of TV content), it will soon have the following:

1. HD movie downloads (and other HD content).
2. Movie rentals (huge).
3. Direct rentals and purchase from iTunes (eliminating using the computer, just order from your living-room).
4. AppleTV is a DVR, in that the content is does access, can be rw,ff,paused or slow-motion-ed.

The biggest issues for AppleTV are:
1. Home bandwidth
2. Negotiating rental terms with the studio's
3. Live Sports streaming and Live News.

Outside of Live coverage, TV need no longer has a "season" or be watched on "Thursday night at 8 PM" etc... This is so old-school.

Anyone who has a DVR can attest to live TV being quite lame, while understanding traditional TV schedules need not apply.

When people discover they can pay for the shows they want and dump their $60 cable and dish bills, and come out a bit ahead with iTunes and AppleTV, it will hit mass adoption. Plus, users will have all the content when they want it, along with it being portable and view-able on a Computer with the ease Apple brings to the table.

Granted, the live goods will be 2-3 years out, but some may be coming sooner than expected... ESPN anyone?!

A gradual product that will only build in steam as the content and quality rivals and quickly passes anything cableTV and DishTV products can provide.

@ No Squirt For You,

Doubtful, yet I did see a display with one of their set-top boxes in a circuit city a few months back. So sad that whatever company MS bought out never got to unleash what might have been a really cool idea into the world...

If only the AppleTV had composite-out... Since it doesn't, I won't be buying a Trojan horse for my living room.

Has anyone actually been billed yet?

My checking account was pinged by Apple last week but no actual monetary transaction took place. I am hoping my account will be debited tomorrow and my appleTV will be on its merry way.

I hope this Trojan doesn't bust and leak all over the couch like the last one.....

Anyone know of an ED-to-SD downconverter that isn't broadcast grade?

A snippet for those unable or unwilling to see that there are loads of options for the development potential of AppleTV...

http://ce.seekingalpha.com/article/29861?source=i_email&u=30547

I'm glad to see "Trojan Horse" associated with an Apple story that is NOT some FUD piece about (non-existant) Mac OS X malware.

The analysts are finally starting see Apple TV as the device that makes any HD-capable TV into a giant wireless video iPod. While Apple's hardware competition is scrambling to do something to match the iPhone (and the expected widescreen multi-touch iPod), Apple will stealthily deploy the Apple TV. Before the competition sees it coming, every iPod owner with an HD TV will also have an Apple TV.

iPhone is going to be a great product too, but I think it is also serving as a diversion to get Apple TV line into the field.

My Apple TV is expected to arrive this Friday...crossing my fingers.

Tommy Boy

Right now tv is just well-reported vaporware.

Idiot. An actual functioning device cannot be vapourware. It exists. It's real. The fact that you don't have one does not matter a wit.

MINE SHIPPED!! Left China this morning 3/20 and is scheduled to arrive by noon friday! YEAH!!

Matt:
AppleTV does have component connections - could you not use those?
http://www.apple.com/appletv/connect.html