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How many MDN reader's are surprised by this report?

Anyone?? Anyone???

Jun 05, 08 - 05:04 pm Comment from: Brau

"How many MDN reader's are surprised by this report?

Anyone?? Anyone???"

Umm, None? That's one helluva analyst, predicting the dead obvious when it's well on it's way.

In that vein, I predict the sun will rise tomorrow.

Jun 05, 08 - 05:08 pm Comment from: Cowboy

I think 10.5 million is a little low...

Jun 05, 08 - 05:09 pm Comment from: Macintosh

This website isn't just for daily MDN readers... It's good to relay any information about Apple, so when the masses search Google for let's say 3G iPhone, they can not only get informed but hit this site...

Jun 05, 08 - 05:20 pm Comment from: Demon

The only surprise will be if Apple sells 25 Million or more iPhones this year.

Jun 05, 08 - 05:50 pm Comment from: CourtJester

The latest iCreate magazine (UK issue 56) predicts three flavours of iPhone pretty much matching Apples existing business model for computers and iPods will shortly be announced.

Firstly a slightly smaller iPhone Nano with limited features but a really low price and maybe a plastic case. Next the standard iPhone with 3G. Finally the fully featured 3G with extra memory and perhaps of tablet design capable of running heavyweight games and applications.

iCreate predicts that Apple may not introduce all the versions at the same time but have a staggered launch programme.

Jun 05, 08 - 05:52 pm Comment from: Randian

Say, where are you a$$holes today that have called the iPhone a massive failure thus far? Looks like a perfect opportunity to reiterate your indefensible position to me.

Jun 05, 08 - 06:09 pm Comment from: Jubei

Krakow says no way unless Windows Mobile or BB runs the iPhone software! Ahahaha... yeah right.

iPhone has not been that successfull so far, only 1.7m sold in Q1/2008, pathetic low figures in Europe overall and a total flop in Germany.

MDN has been chanting about an upcoming bloodbath for a year now, called the 10mill-sold-iPhones goal in 2008 a laughably low estimate , when is the bloodbath due? I am still waiting.

iPhone is yet to deliver when it comes to reaching the masses.

Jun 05, 08 - 06:24 pm Comment from: Snow Leopard

Only 10.5M? Gimme a break! Just wait until Snow Leopard for the iPhone hits!

Lets make this clear, once and for all.

The stated goal is 10 million units by the end of calendar year 2008. Thus, from 06.29.07 to 12.31.08 the goal is 10 million units.

Anything over and above the stated goal is considered a success. More than 10% over is a good success. More than 15% is a great success, and more than 20% over is an amazing success.

If Apple were simply looking for massive numbers they would have approached things very differently. To say that 1.7 million units in 2008 Q1 is not that successful so far is to apply some other form of reasoning... 1.7 x 6 quarters is 10.2 million units. And we all know that they have sold more than 1.7 million units per quarter on average. Who cares about Germany? Does it really matter? Perhaps the Germans were expecting 3G and decided to be uber practical and wait for it. Only time will tell.

Jun 05, 08 - 09:11 pm Comment from: Digital Mercenary

Considering that the current iPhone isn't compatible with 3G services Europe, it is a miracle that they have sold any in Germany or France. We won't know if the iPhone is successful outside the US until the 3G iPhone ships. So those saying that the iPhone is a failure in Germany and France are pretty clueless or engaging in wishful thinking and hoping for failure.

So we can critique the sales of the phone that has:
Not been designed for business.
Not been made available at huge discounts but sold at full sticker.
Been locked into one carrier.
Runs on the slower network...

Wait a second.
Now that I think about it, why am I even bothering answering someone who can't even spell 'successful'?

Whatever the trolls think, for a FIRST ATTEMPT I would say Apple hit a home run.

Jun 05, 08 - 09:58 pm Comment from: Schuimpje

Hello MDN, where do you get that '70 Countries' figure???

Unless you prove to me that there are 2 countries with the name Switzerland, 2 with the name Portugal, 2 with the name Italy, 3 countries called India....you get the point I guess.

It's 70 carriers operating in 50 countries....

Jun 05, 08 - 10:03 pm Comment from: Schuimpje

Ooops,...I'm eating crow...early morning here....MDN, you are right, 70 countries, did not check as good as you did.

Put me in the Analyst Job seeking catagory for today...

Jun 05, 08 - 10:06 pm Comment from: Digital Mercenary

@Randlan

Not sure what your point or points are, but I am in agreement that the first release was a home run. That was my point. Even if I didn't make it successful{ly}.

You guys are pathetic with your reasonings.. the stated goal is 10mill IN 2008, not BY THE END of 2008, hasnt that become clear already?

Also, there is always a reason why some phone wont sell as expected - iPhone is a flop in Europe, period.

Sure you can say that iPhone didnt make it because iPhone dont have this and that (yet), that doesnt make it any more of a success.

I can take any low-end trash phone and say the same thing "it would be a showstopper had it only this and that yada yada yada"..

Put your money were your mouth is or STFU

Jun 06, 08 - 08:34 am Comment from: Cubert

"Actually, it's already currently at 70 countries and counting"

Wow. I continue to be amazed at that stat and not even a year after the launch. Impressive compared to Apple's slow entrance into markets with its Macs.

@Steve516

"Lets make this clear, once and for all.

The stated goal is 10 million units by the end of calendar year 2008. Thus, from 06.29.07 to 12.31.08 the goal is 10 million units."

Let's make this clear once and for all - people should stop repeating this canard as if were true. Take it from the horse's mouth instead of your own personal interpretation of what Apple meant.

Take a read at the transcript of the Q2 2008 quarterly conference call.

http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/01/23/apples-q1-2008-earnings-transcript/

William Fearnley, FTN Midwest: One last, if I could. On the iPhone unit expectation for 2008, I mean are you guys providing any type of update on that today? Thanks.

Peter Oppenheimer, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer: We remain very confident in hitting the 10 million goal for 2008.

Apple has stated clearly in every single quarterly conference call since the iPhone launch that their goal is to sell 10 million units in calendar year 2008.

Instead of railing against reality, please try to adjust your view to reflect that actual facts. It's staring you in the face, and not open to interpretation.