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Jul 01, 09 - 05:51 pm Comment from: Arnold Ziffel

So, now they're known as "OUTVIDIA?"

And they are the only independent GPU makers now.

Nvida wants a buyer and Apple doesn't want it, thus they are acting up.

what are the alternatives for Apple?

Make their own?

Buy out some co?

Jul 01, 09 - 06:22 pm Comment from: What?

Still AMD

"They claim to SemiAccurate that Apple views NVIDIA's proposals for renewed deals as 'arrogance'"

Does that make this a semi-accurate report?

Jul 01, 09 - 06:25 pm Comment from: Tommy Boy

I'd just like for my MacBook Pro that I bought in December to not have gone on for repair 3 times.

Jul 01, 09 - 06:26 pm Comment from: ken1w

That would be a shame. I think the "low-end" Mac's standardization on the 9400M (and whatever follows) is a good thing. Five Mac lines (Mac mini, iMac, MacBook, MacBook Air, and MacBook Pro) have the 9400M inside in some or all configs. Only the high-end iMacs and Mac Pros do not use it.

Jul 01, 09 - 06:33 pm Comment from: Arnold Ziffel

Thanks for the FUD, Tommy Boy.

The next generation of integrated INTEL grafic solutions are built right into the CPU, so it makes absolutly no sense to combine a integrated chipset to an integrated CPU because the performance difference will be too little and you can´t save a single dollar.
So the only possibilty left is to extend the INTEL integrated grafic with a discrete GPU.

http://www.theinquirer.net/

Just read about NVidia and you will see why Apple is at issue with them.

Jul 01, 09 - 07:31 pm Comment from: bobcb

Yes, because when I want accurate news I always go the a muckracking site like TheInq. nVidia has lost a lot of ground lately and it's only the 9400m that has given them any breathing room, I doubt the veracity of these claims.

Apple has ALL the leverage. On top of that there ARE other chip builders out there. Apple no longer has to be the FASTEST, they already have a user base from the Windows side coming over because of frustration over MSFT & their OEMs.

Nice to know Apple extended warranties. They are becoming more customer friendly every time there seems trouble.

@Jim
I believe that Apple's alternatives are to build they own chip. Sound pretty unlike but apple has a big history of big surprises. Remember also that Apple is increasing their stake in ARM graphics technologies, they hired a former ATI engineer and brought PA Semi.
So, since GPU are basically CPUs focus on graphics, what could stop apple from doing their own GPUs? Toshiba is using a CELL processor to decode and encode HD video in laptops and TVs; The CELL is based in the PowerPC core, and PA SEMI processors are design with the PowerPC as a base. So, Apple is preparing a big surprise besides the SOC for the iPhone.

Remember...they could always use Intel Integrated graphics again. If Intel wins their lawsuit against NVIDIA, both Apple and NVIDIA would be screwed anyways for using NVIDIA chipsets designed the way they currently are. I personally hope both Apple, Intel, and NVIDIA can get everything worked out. If Intel wins this case they have against NVIDIA they damn well better have a good solution.

For those not in the know, the Inquirer (and now SemiAccurate--a rag born of a former Inquirer slanderer) is a tabloid rag that has long had an ongoing anti-nVidia bias to all their GPU stories--sometimes laughably so, like when they recently predicted Dell was going to drop all Nvidia GPUs from their line-up only to have Dell announce new models with 9400M GPUs.

Apple will choose (or not choose) nVidia on the business merits alone.

NO VIDIA... yea

Jul 01, 09 - 10:07 pm Comment from: jonahan

Well it's a good thing Apple bought PA Semi!

Hey my brother and I have june 2007 MBPs with the 8600M GT
and have had our entire logicboards replaced from an AASP here in Athens, Hellas since they had failed within 2 weeks both, and of course I hope it fails again, since they give us all an entire new system to burn with graphics based applications, no problem for Apple, they know I will buy only a Mac in the future.

Jul 01, 09 - 10:41 pm Comment from: eMax

This is bogus....

IF this is true:""The Mac firm has had to extend MacBook Pro warranties for up to three years " and DUE TO THE NVIDIA CHIPS.

NVIDIA is going to pay for it, not Apple

I believe that Apple's alternatives are to build they own chip.

Yep and another processor change.

At least it will kill the cloners.

Jul 02, 09 - 12:53 am Comment from: Snapper

My Santa Rosa 2.4 was working great minus one logic board change in November, then a SMC update messed things up again two weeks ago and apple is blaming NVIDIA for the issue. NVIDIA will have no way of proving if it's a heating issue or the SMC.

LOL, Apple accusing nVidia of arrogance. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! :-D

Jul 02, 09 - 10:47 am Comment from: NCIceman

This worries me. I really want Apple to be taken seriously in the game market, and you need access to good graphics chips/cards to do that. Unfortuantley the mac pro is the only model where the user has choice for graphics.