“PC users don’t really get the Mac and have never gotten the Mac. Since most of the world talks Windows, it’s no surprise that few in the industry really appreciate the windfall that’s in store for Apple Computer over the next 18 months,” David Morgenstern writes for eWeek.
Morgenstern writes, “The big deal for Mac users will be upgrades, primarily meaning the transition of the installed base of Mac users to the Intel-based machines. The first sign of the pent-up demand for newer, faster Macs can be seen in Apple’s latest quarterly results. The sales of some 800,000 notebooks—almost all the high-priced spread—represents a 61 percent increase from the year-ago quarter. With our internal clocks it feels as if it all must have happened by now. But it’s only just beginning. For example, Apple’s super-loyal base of professional content creators haven’t yet received their Intel machines. However, this cycle isn’t your usual processor upgrade cycle that comes every time Intel or Advanced Micro Devices tweaks a process. This is a major shift that affects all parts of the Mac customer-developer-vendor ecology.”
“This coming Intel transition may prove to be a triple high biorhythm for the Mac. Along with the new Intel models, the Mac market will be bolstered early in 2007 by the arrival of Mac OS X “Leopard” (v10.5) and later in the spring with Intel-compatible versions of major Mac software platforms, such as the Adobe Creative Suite 3 products,” Morgenstern writes.
“Wild cards in the Intel transition mix are ‘switchers,’ the customers persuaded by the demonstrations of content creation in the Apple stores. Will this trend with Windows users switching to Mac continue after the arrival of Windows Vista and its prettier face? Maybe,” Morgenstern writes. “With Vista missing the holiday and back-to-school seasons, many customers are buying Macs. A family in my neighborhood has been all PC since the PC XT. But the eldest son is going off to college and says he wants a Mac. It’s the vanguard of a new generation gap. He’s never owned a Mac but he’s gotta have one—a good sign for Apple.”
Much more in the full article here.
Related MacDailyNews article:
Dude, you got a Dell? What are you, stupid? Only Apple Macs run both Mac OS X and Windows! – April 05, 2006
Some people get their hopes up….
macs are easy to use? so is windows.
buying a mac is just for style. u can get everything as good as ilife for windows, u just have to shop around and not be lazy. macs are great if u are too lazy to work a computer.
sales go up sales go down… still most people buy windows because windows works just fine. thats WHY everyone uses it.
The new Intel macs are like that frosted-on-one-side wheat cereal that can run Windows too! (The Macs, not the cereal, silly) They are like the old-school reese’s peanut butter cup commercial’s (“You got Intel chips in my Macintosh!”, “No, you got a solid 21st century and stable operating system in my PC!”) But most of all, Macs are like those Pixar cartoons which play to the young kiddies, while delivering humorous satire for their adult parents.
“It’s a gum!”, “No, it’s a mint!”, “It’s both!”
“macs are great if u are too lazy to work a computer.”
Or if you are a busy highly paid professional who needs to get things done, not endlessly fidget with the damn thing to make it work!
Scientists use macs. Creatives use macs. Lemmings use whatever they are told to.
“macs are great if u are too lazy to work a computer.”
Selling french fries is great if you are too lazy to learn how to spell.
No, the reason why 90% use Windows is because it’s cheap and they don’t know anything else. It certainly isn’t because “it works fine,” because nobody can say that with a straight face.
“macs are easy to use? so is windows.”
Even if that is true, now Windows users can buy Macs and use their precious Windows. That the difference now… why not get a nicely designed computer that can run ANYTHING.
Besides, it’s not just about “easy” anymore. It’s about security and stability. It’s about Mac OS X 10.5 making a big splash before Windows Vista. It’s about iPod users wanting to give Macs a shot when they buy a new computer.
Momentum is definitely on Apple side…
And Windows is fine if you’re too lazy to use proper capitalization, grammar and spelling.
But I wonder…did that college kid want the Mac because it’s a Mac, or did he want the free iPod that comes with it for educational purchasers? Just curious…
MW=water; Water down the Mac OS and bingo, you’ve got Windows…
> u can get everything as good as ilife for windows, u just have to shop around and not be lazy.
and the point of that is?
why shop around and pay for inferior replacements that aren’t as integrated as iLife?
you get iLife for free on every new Mac, it’s totally integrated as a suite and it just works… and on top of that, you get the worlds most secure and advanced OS.
ah well, good luck not being lazy!
PC users don’t really get the Mac and have never gotten the Mac. Since most of the world talks Windows
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If you consider that since 1995, Windows has been .. basically Mac OS (8)…then Apple has a 98% marketshare…
People get Macs, they can figure out OS X in about 4 seconds..
Icons on the right.. menu at the top.. (where menus go).. got it.
“Along with the new Intel models, the Mac market will be bolstered early in 2007 by the arrival of Mac OS X ‘Leopard’ (v10.5) […]”
Ah, but unlike Windows users, Mac users don’t usually go out and buy a new computer just because Appple releases a new version of Mac OS X. So I don’t think that Leopard is going to drive hardware upgrades, but it will still be money in Apple’s bank account.
pete-
i disagree. i believe ppl will wait for 10.5 to be pre-installed before they buy their computer. why buy a mac now, and then have to pay $120 for the new OS (granted, still way cheaper than xp/vista)? the ppl who are buying macs now are the ppl who are sick of their dell but still “penny pinch” at every oportunity.
Ah, but unlike Windows users, Mac users don’t usually go out and buy a new computer just because Appple releases a new version of Mac OS X. So I don’t think that Leopard is going to drive hardware upgrades, but it will still be money in Apple’s bank account.
And just to expand on that point, with each version, OS X has become slightly faster which actually improves the useful life of some machines.
One of my friends has ‘recycled’ his old 1998 Bondi iMac to his sister whose requirements are not that demanding (web, e-mail, the occasional letter, iTunes). It runs Panther (as it doesn’t have a DVD, and he couldn’t be bothered to get the install CDs) despite the fact that its slightly anemic on memory. Obviously, things like Expose don’t work very well, but it still runs.
Try running Vista on an eight-year old machine, I dare you.
Uh, Mac Sales=who cares guy. It seems that you have been having to “work” your computer way to much lately, so you decided to come and hang out with us who don’t ever have to “work” our computers. Our computers WORK!, not have to be worked. Look up the term “denial”, because it is all over you.
You have to be curious about the Mac to even be on our forum, pal…save yourself alot of trouble and head over to your Apple store. Troll or not, Apple is still on your mind. Quit being a sheep and make the leap up.
It´s always been the perfect storm to buy a Mac, but 95% of the people still buy Windows.
99% of recent sales of Macs are to people that already own Macs – if they weren´t then Apple would be crowing about the huge number of Windows buyers being first time Mac owners.
It´s always been the perfect storm to buy a Mac, but 95% of the people still buy Windows.
99% of recent sales of Macs are to people that already own Macs – if they weren´t then Apple would be crowing about the huge number of Windows buyers being first time Mac owners.
“Try running Vista on an eight-year old machine, I dare you.”
What is this fasination with using old, dated, slow equipment?
Most people are so cheap – as sheep ! Let them have their Windhose …
Mac OS X .. runs for five years and has been beautiful from the first version onwards.
-xp- stumbles with all kind of illnesses and safety packages !
In the land of the blind one-eyed is king…
As someone working the EDU sales market, these kids aren’t really wowed by the free iPod much. About 80+% of them already have one, and the free one is going to Mom or Dad. They’re sold on zero viruses, built in video camera, Microsoft Office running, expose, dashboard, and style.
Of course, it didn’t hurt to meet with all the department chairs before orientation and be able to namedrop like a madman during orientations.
Macfanboy…
It’s because the ability to recycle kit in that way is utterly discounted when they calculate the Macintosh platform’s user share statistics. But, as you have problems with words like ‘fasination’, I would imagine that your grasp of how that kind of stat works would be pretty sketchy.
Let me ask you a question in return: what’s the fascination (see how easy it is to proof-read) in using an old, dated, slow, insecure operating systems? But enough about Vista, why do you insist on using Windows XP.
Neat & Tidy, you wrote “99% of recent sales of Macs are to people that already own Macs.” I KNOW you made that up, because Apple has in fact mentioned specifically in their recent 3rd-quarter report (July 19, 2006) that 50% of their Mac sales in their retail stores are switchers. That leaves the remaining 50% to be divided between new computer users and existing Mac users. Thus, there are actually much more Windows users buying Macs than Mac users buying at the Apple Stores. Online sales may be less for PC switchers because they probably want to actually see and feel the Mac before making a purchase.
More on the topic of the recent flood of switchers can be found here…
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=12117
Hey ‘neat & tidy’….
You stated;
“99% of recent sales of Macs are to people that already own Macs – if they weren´t then Apple would be crowing about the huge number of Windows buyers being first time Mac owners.”
Apple DID crow about the number of Windoze users buying Macs…
But you must’ve been busy downloading your daily feed of anti-virus, anti-spyware,anti-malware, critical vendor driver updates, windoze updates, etc, etc, etc to notice…
On Apple’s quarterly results call, Apple stated;
“50% of Mac buyers at Apple Retail Stores are new to Mac.”
Duh….
Fanatic Realist, c’mon… you really shouldn’t take credit for proof-reading your browser text boxes. We all know that your Mac can spell check the text in a browser text box on the fly, and with a single right/control-click you can correct it… you have a Mac!
Windows can do this, right?
Oh… sorry!
GmJm
Actually because this laptop is just being setup, I hadn’t turned on Safari’s spell-checking or even set-up the Dictionary to British.
But thanks for reminding me.
The other elementin the perfect storm is Visat. When it finally comes out (assuming it does), Windows users will discover that they need a new computer to run it. And many of them will decide to buy a Mac because the comparisons to Tiger and Leopard will be given a lot of play in the press.
The big Mac attack.
attn: Mac sales = who cares
OSX will chew you up and spit you out.
your windows using days will be ruined for life – trust me once youve driven a levitating hovercar from another planet you WONT want to go back to driving your ford.!
I dare all you biased idiots that think we’re biased to try osx for a while.
oh, and people use windows because they are?
a. afraid
b. lazy
c. sheep
d. all of the above
answer: d
Your response to the article puts an exclamation point on what the writer was saying, are ARE the guy he is talking about… did you even read the article? Windows using douche bags.
Now that’s a great article. Please pass the champagne….
nice title, but the article on the whole was actually rather lame, poorly researched, and not very conclusive about anything. Mostly it seemed written to get hits….worked, I guess. I’ve written better articles about Apple than that!
mw: interest, as in NOT
XP does work fine and I don’t need to endlessly fidget with it to keep it working and nod32 anti-virus and spyware doctor keep my system squeaky clean. Total cost: $70.
Spyware Doctor IS SPYWARE you effing DOLT!
whats the figure 114,000 viruses in 2005 alone for windows and 0 viruses for OSX in over 5 years.
I think I am going to buy a Ford because everyone else (at least used to) buy one. After all I can shop around and buy any number of add ons to make it look more like a sports car. Though now that I have done just that it just looks like a Ford with rather a lot of go faster stripes. Mind you no one can say its cheap now eh, well financially anyway.
C>config.sys
etc. etc. etc.
That is Windows before Macs introduced the GUI as an everyday user interface. And it was soooooooooooo easy to use. So is f@rting in an elevator but no one sees the benefit.
Micro$oft has been copying Apple in every possible way for-phuqiung-ever.
Now they can’t stand that Apple is so publically kicking their proverbial okolee (Hawaiian for you know here) that they have to try to figure out a way to beat the iPod market without infringing on Apple and in the process also destroy the balance of the 20 – 25% Market share that “the also rans” have in the digital music market.
As for the real world of Macs and the installed base – reality is: 25 – 30% of the global market but who is counting. Why so high? Macs last longer, are more relilable and they just work. AND no viruses. Every Mac I have owned has been a tool the get things done – I didn’t have to rebuild it or restart it all the time just to get my job done. And since I have installed OS X on my systems – 99.99999999999% of the time I do not have to restart (except for upgrades). I have two Windblows PCs in my lab to run 1) a CNC programme and 2) to run the design programme to generate the code from my Mac designs for the CNC machine (I have since discovered that I can use CANVAS to generate my code for the CNC machine, so guess how often I have to start up the one PC (as in almost never)). My point is that EVERY time I run my PC, I have to upgrade virus protection scheme and shock of shocks – restart. If I want to add a USB mouse or keyboard, I have to install new drivers and (gasp) restart. If it is cloudy and the humidity is a bit higher and there are birds outside my office window feeding in the feeder, I have to reboot (just kidding, but it seems like that). Why anyone wants to keep using the POSs I have no idea. Oh, right – the need for gaming. I forgot.
As a scientist, writer, illustrator, business owner, marine photographer, music composer and all around nice guy; I prefer – no demand – a Mac. Only makes financial sense to me. I don’t waste time rebuilding my computer every day – I just use it. Period.
And I have more time for meeting(s), etc.
I home this helps with any meeting of the minds that is hoped for. (MDN = meeting)
The ONLY anti spyware software that is anygood is free and open source. and you need like 3 or 4 to get everything, and even with 3 or 4 you still cant get everything… HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH
windows… HAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH
internets… HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH
good luck…
windows is for offline gaming, but in the near future they will even lose ground there – and its not that it does well; its just there currently isnt anything as robust and capable.
A Mac sales perfect storm? I think it is coming soon. Did you see those numbers Apple reported for the 3rd fiscal quarter? 800,000 notebooks — with only half a quarter’s time for MacBook sales! And we are now in the back to school quarter. I can not come up with a reasonable sales scenario in which Mac sales for the current quarter will be closer to one million units than to two million units.
How sweet it is!
“Since most of the world talks Windows”
Most people who HAVE Windows don’t even really know what it is or what it’s for. Ask 10 random off the street people what Windows is and I bet no more than two of them would call it an operating system.
“And just to expand on that point, with each version, OS X has become slightly faster which actually improves the useful life of some machines.”
I agree with that statement 100%. After putting Tiger on my Cube, I absolutely could not believe how fast it boots. I mean its under 10 secs.
macs are easy to use? so is windows. … macs are great if u are too lazy to work a computer.
Actually, I like to think of Macs as allowing smarter use. Spending extra time in Windows dealing with crashes, viruses, hangs, glitches, and a bunch of extra steps in every process is a waste of my efforts. I would rather spend that time doing, you know, actual stuff that I want to do, rather than stuff the OS forces me to do. Am I lazy? No, I would just rather enjoy being productive.
XP does work fine and I don’t need to endlessly fidget with it to keep it working
Work with a Mac for about a month without touching Windows…then go back and use it…you will be shocked to discover just how much “endless fidgeting” you actually have to do with Windows. True, XP might be much better compared to, say, Windows2000, but it doesn’t hold a candle to OS X in terms of smarter use of your time. It’s not just easier…it is smarter, safer, and more stable.
Really, other than a few PC-only software titles and gaming (and those are shifting as we speak), there is no advantage to Windows at all anymore.
It’s amazing. Trolls come here and tell us BS about the Windows experience thinking most of us have never been inflicted with Windows before.
Trolls, we’ve all used Windows long enough to know we love our Macs, hardware and software. It’s not perfect yet but it’s a hell of a lot better than Windows on a Dell.
unfortunatly people are stupid, ask most people what windows is and they WONT KNOW… even TRY TO TALK TO THEM about OSX or linux, and they will look at you like a deer in the headlights, they DONT GET IT! “Isnt every computer the same; they think to themselves.” they dont know what an OS is, they dont know what windows is, they dont know that comptuers use windows, they dont know that there is an option, why? because most people are inept and stupid and TOTALLY UNWILLING TO LEARN OR TRY NEW THINGS.
fucking windows blind idiots.
“99% of recent sales of Macs are to people that already own Macs – if they weren´t then Apple would be crowing about the huge number of Windows buyers being first time Mac owners.”
Uhhh, not true, Neat and Tidy. Apple has said recently on several occasions (most recently at their Q3 conference call) that 50% of Mac purchases are to people new to the platform.
Look it up.
Cubert: “that 50% of Mac purchases are to people new to the platform.”
Does not say that – it says 50% of the customers coming in the Apples stores are Windows owners. Most iPods are purchased by windows owners and they come back to buy accessories and Apple sells other 3rd party products in the stores.
(I bought something in an Apple store the other day and no one asked me if I was a Window or Apple owner – how do they come up with this info???)
Big Al “Trolls, we’ve all used Windows long enough to know we love our Macs, hardware and software.”!
Of course all Apple owners also have a Windows PC, too. We all know that.
@Macfanboy: “(I bought something in an Apple store the other day and no one asked me if I was a Window or Apple owner – how do they come up with this info???)”
Because Apple figures every Mac owner also owns a PC!
I am a musician and used software that was available on both Windows and Mac. I had always wanted to use a Mac (since my elementary school experiences with the IIe). It just seemed to be more intuitive, easier to use, etc. Well, after winning several vocal competitions and a couple other gigs I felt I had enough money to justify buying the Mac.
I do feel that if Apple wants to catch on, they do need to release at least one “all in one” machine under a thousand dollars. It’s quite absurd to think that the iMac of 2000 cost less than the iMac of today.
I also feel though that Apple needs to enter the PDA market once more. I know that the NEWTON once existed, and had some remarkable features, but it’s time for the “iPod PLUS” or something like that to come out, that I could write on, etc. I would never use a PC tablet simply because towards the end of my TOSHIBA days it became such an awful experience to use that machine.
The MacBook is (so far) the perfect machine. I haven’t had any of the coloration problems (knock on wood), and yes, it’s a little warmer than most laptops, but all around it’s just a more stable machine.
I have recorded more music files with GarageBand than I ever recorded using any software I had on the PC. Why? Because between the ease of GarageBand and the integrated Mic with my MacBook, quick recordings are no longer a challenge, but exactly that, quick and easy.
Apple’s vertical integration strategy greatly appeals to me, as someone who values my time and doesn’t want to have to waste it.. By creating everything in-house it just runs better.
Microsoft’s end is near. I would not be surprised to see Gateway, HP, and Dell want to start developing their own OS. And guess what, if they all went in on it together, Microsoft would collapse. If they just stopped giving you the MS program, most home users would just use whatever they were given, especially if the office suite was MS office compatable.
All that has to be done is for Sibelius to go universal and I will be the happiest user in the world.
The features that are highly toted as revolutionary to day are simply evolutionary. AmigaOS and Atari’s MultiTOS both were ahead of their times in terms of what OS’s should be like. Flexible, configurable and secure.
Try emulating either of these OS’s and run some of the programs created back then such as PageStream, Calamus, Papyrus and be blown away at how fast and feature rich things were back in the day.
Hell yeah, Amiga Fanboy.
My old Amiga 4000 emulated a Mac FASTER than the fastest Mac available at the time. Multimedia wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for Jay Miner and his amazing way-way-way-ahead-of-its-time computer. Too bad C= dropped the ball.
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“u can get everything as good as ilife for windows, u just have to shop around and not be lazy. macs are great if u are too lazy to work a computer.”
They’re also great if you’re too lazy to type proper English!
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The thing I love about people like Mac sales = who cares is the presumption that ‘working’ the computer is – in some way – an end in itself when any sane person knows that you purchase a computer to help you achieve something that you either couldn’t achieve manually or to help you improve your efficiency for a set of tasks.
Nobody buys a computer to learn how to use the operating system, or how to juggle IRQs or whatever passes for fun in Windows propellor-head geekdom.
And the other source of hilarity are statements like u can get everything as good as ilife for windows, u just have to shop around and not be lazy.. So, in this dweeb’s world, time spent shopping for something is better spent than time spent actually using the hardware/software for which you would be shopping.
Here – for the benefit of the stupid – is a challenge: go and find an easy-to-use ‘digital lifestyle’ suite (video editor, DVD publisher, photo librarian, music librarian [iTune], audio studio [GarageBand] and blog publishing tool [iWeb]) for $79.
By the way, the video editor and the DVD publisher have to be capable of maintaining an HDV/HD stream from source through to finished product (yes, I know BluRay/HD-DVD isn’t available on a Mac as yet – but the clock is ticking and that’s not the point of the challenge) and the video editor has to be capable of more than just straight-cuts. Projects created by the video editor and the audio studio have to be capable of being opened by professional level apps.
In addition, as I can buy iLife stand-alone or as part of a new Mac, the Windows equivalent has to be freely available as a stand-alone software product and not ONLY be a ‘special edition’ tied to a given Windows OEM unit.
Name one commercial/government/institutional user that has been left on the side of the road by Mac OS X. I can name many who have ben left utterly incapacitated by Windows XP & Server software. Despite the most draconian restrictions and lock-downs tried by IT Departments, Windows is still an insecure and buggy OS– period.
To my knowledge, every one of the major security breaches involving the theft of personal data has happened on a Microsoft System. When you consider how many systems running UNIX and other OSes exist and their relative immunity to this compared to Windoze it is amazing that anybody is stupid enough to drink the Redmond Kool-Aid. The simple fact is, by either relative incidence and by raw numbers, WIndows Client & Server software is a security problem waiting to happen.
If stability & security are important the obvious choice is anything other than Windows. If playing games is your priority, get a Windoze Box. If you want stability, security and a wide palate of commercial software the Mac OS is the OBVIOUS choice for clients and LINUX or UNIX for servers.
Reality bites and the facts back it up.
To Windoze Apologists/Fanboys: “Reality bites and the facts back it up.”
Today for every 100 computers sold only 3 or 4 will be Apple computers.
‘Today for every 100 computers sold only 3 or 4 will be Apple computers.’- True.
Today few drive a hybrid car or use renewable energy sources. Also True.
100 years ago more cars used electricity or steam than used gasoline. Also True.
That in no way changes the fact that the market is changing and Apple is in a very good position just like the energy market is shifting toward efficiency and sustainable sources. Very True.
So what exactly is your point?
Stop pimping market share and open your eyes. The financial viability of a platform is not based upon market share– market size is more important. Apple has developed a user base large enough to support a diverse palate of developers and the number of developers is growing. Good enough for me.
I read that title and at first thought Apple was going to release their own brew called Perfect Storm. Is that an ale or lager? I’d try it.
Some of its strengths would include:
• Best flavor on the market: but only 5% of beer drinkers have the taste buds to know the difference
• You could drink a ton of it and never have a run in with security.
• When sick, you could drink it since viruses can’t affect it. Would probably make you better.
Jump in any time, Ampar.
Just a couple things to throw into this whole (which is better) arguement. Everything in the world has their uses, yes, even windows has its uses. I recently had Ubuntu Linux installed, which was sleek, elegant, and all around nice to USE. BUT when it comes time to installing new programs.. omg what a headache. “Dependancies not satisfiedable” “need this and that to install this and that which will allow you to install this”. Now, I sit here using XP again, simply because of the annoyance of installing programs on ubuntu. Why am I not using OSx? So many of you are asking yourselves that right now as we speak, hell even I am asking myself that question, awnser.. financial reasons I won’t divulge into. The reason I am writting this is for one point only, directed at all you windows loving people out there. If someone told you “Try this chicken alfredo with blue cheese I just made” and you respond with “no thanks, I’ll stick to my fries with ketchup”.. c’mon people, we can all sit around knocking this and that, but do not knock the MAC unless you have personally walked a mile in its shoes. Which mind you, are some damn comfortable. Am I going to proof read this? No, I’m in a rush to go pick up my bonus from work so I can buy a mac mini to restart my Mac days again.