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I'm changin my default browser at work!

Safari for Windows is a great move. A taste of macintosh for EVERYONE stuck in the dreary gates of the Windows realm.

I'm downloading mine right now, Mac version that is. Requires a resart? Hmmmmmm.

MDN Magic Word: "Hell"

I rest my case...

Apple probably had to do this because of the iPhone.

In letting developers build iPhone apps inside Safari, they made the iPhone completely Windows-compatible.

Solved many problems in one bold move.

But will it replace firefox's niche?

yawn

what a faakin non event

God, this is soooo smart. Incredible viral marketing. Infect Windows users with Apple's style and ease-of-use... watch them wonder if maybe they ought to switch. Brilliant.

Now, as for Safari 3 -- it is okay. A nice if not impressive upgrade.

Whoa. Didn't see this one coming. Watch out for flying chairs.

No wireless. Less space than a nomad. No support for Linux. Lame

Apple.com redesign!!!!! Sorry if im late on this but....Apple.com redesign!!!!!!!

I have seen several comments (on the live WWDC announcement feed) that Safari for Windows and 'Web 2.0' for iPhone development are lame, weak, bad idea. I could not disagree more. I have worked in internet development for a long time now, starting with CGI applications written in C and perl, and there is tremendous convergence on the browser as the platform. Most 'back end' developers I know are now learning CSS and JavaScript, to keep themselves relevant.

This is a brilliant way to ensure that a) there are a TON of developers for the iPhone, b) development is standards-based and (relatively) easy, and c) push out a 'virtual iPhone' platform in the shape of a damn good browser.

I have no doubt that Safari marketshare will jump up, even if it is only gaining traction among developers. (But oh, I wish it supported Firefox extensions.)

Poor old Balmy Balmer. And with Bill Boy leaving the sinking ship, his hair must be falling out right now. Oh wait...

Ballistic Ballmer has graduated to destroying tables, desks and farm animals.

He's Twister 2.

As much as I love it, I can't remotely see windows users downloading and using Safari. Most knowing apple users don't even use safari, regardless of speed tests. Anyone that actually cares and notice opt for Firefox... on both sides.

Wow, the Apple.com redesign is nice.

They're really going to town with CoverFlow.

Windows for Safari is so that Windows users can sync their bookmarks.. iPhone only uses Safari and there will be a lot of Windows users buying the iPhone.. This way they can sync their bookmarks on their iPhone and their PC just like Mac users can.

Ah Ha!!! As I predicted. I said it made sense from a business model for Apple to release only free software for Windoze (ex. iTunes) and that they should release Safari for Winblows to "come to the rescue of all the poor Winblows users suffering with IE."

Cool... Safari finally works with Tiny MCE (my guess is FCKEditor will work with it now as well).

Very cool.

"I can't remotely see windows users downloading and using Safari."

They will if they buy an iPhone. Just like they downloaded iTunes for Windows by the millions.

I am at once thrilled and angered by this. When you download it, you will notice how complete of a cross platform cocoa they have operating, yet I can't use it.

I like many other would pay for the ability to do this! I love having Safari, but we all need to beg Apple to release cocoa for windows!

Of course it is open source, so perhaps it is closer than I think!

I'm posting this from a computer near Steve Ballmers office

There was a immediate conference call after the Keynote and some yelling going on.

Oh yes, Apple really pissed them off.

I've overheard someone saying they plan to activate the blackhat division to find every exploit possible in SafariWin as to stop the mad rush adoption that's bound to occur.

Well Apple has thrown the first punch, but it's the 800lb gorilla's turn.

No, loading Safari for Winblows does NOT require a restart!

MW: changes - as in man, this heralds some real changes for Windows customers!

I just downloaded the Safari 3 beta for Mac OS, and I have to say it's pretty lame that we don't get any of the new features, or even the brushed metal-less window. It's just the same Safari with an updated rendering engine. Even the Windows users get the new style window.

Two thoughts: 1. It doesn't synch with .mac bookmarks - how lame. 2. Anybody notice that .mac is no longer in the header of the new apple.com? So much for the hope of .Mac getting a much needed boost today.

I can't get it to work. Keeps crashing as it tries to go through the company's servers. That's not really Apple's fault, but this never stopped Firefox. Too bad. Hopefully it will improve once it's out of beta.

just some info. i downloaded the beta on both my macs and then it seemed like nothing would open up. i disabled 'safaristand' and now it loads pages again.

just in case some one else was having this problem.

i will say that the search is cool; and being able to rearrage tabs.

oh but mdn is loading WAY slow. not sure if it's my connection. traffic. or the new safari?

I also got crash after crash after installing Safari 3. That's why they're calling it a beta. Back to 2.04 -- the new version's uninstaller works as advertised.

Now I have tried it and I am very disappointed.

Safari for Windows is really really slow compared to IE.

Apple is stepping on thin ice now.

So far (15 minutes), S3 is working well and I appreciate the additions and improvements in it...which, apparently, others have not yet discovered.

Everytime I launched 3.0 on my MacBook Pro it froze. Had to uninstall it.

Ooh. Mac Safari 3. Bad.
Took forever to load. Had to kill it the first time. Died on it's own the second time.
Uninstalled it, BUT after restarting, Safari b3 KILLED all my bookmark icons! FUCKER!

I am PISSED. Now I've got to poke around through my backup to restore them........ GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

we have the tab drag in it and most bits just not the look
i h8 brushed steel and i thought i could get rid of it now grrrr o well have to w8 till october

abelara, it's MDN, not Safari. It's loading slow in Opera, too.

v3.0 works well on Windows. Using it now.....Ditching Firefox, now.....

I don't use Safari on my Mac, why would I want to use it on Windows? Developers may install it, but Firefox is the defacto standard for Web development. There are just too many extensions that help out developers.

It's very slow in Tiger. And I love how when I resize this input field, the ad that was once next to it is now in it.

hm, i installed it and everything is garbled. The menus, bookmarks, even the webpages :( anyone know how to fix this?

People who mention the need for Safari for Windows due to the iPhone are right IMHO. Just as iTunes was needed for Windows compatibility the iPod, Safari for Windows is needed for full integration (bookmarks, future plug-ins/apps) of the iPhone for windows users.

Nice residuals from the move should be more market share, which SHOULD result in:
- WAY more plug-ins for Safari
- More of an outcry to stop the development of PROPRIETARY (IE-only) websites

Next : Windows Media and Real Media

Just installed on work XP machine. Safari is a quality beta and appears pretty stable. The final version I am sure will close some performance gaps.

It would be nice to see the red * yellow * green dots in the upper left. It was weird going to the upper right to close a window.

Am running Safari 3.0 beta. A slow initial start up, but does render pages much faster.

Very nice.

I downloaded the Windows version as well as the Mac version and put it on a spare Windows machine.

Now I almost feel at home there.

Oh, and it now does GMail's full GUI ... almost--still can't do the GMail chat functionality.

But very nice. Quibbles aside and judged in the round--quality of rendering, GUI design, etc.--Safari was obviously _already_ the best browser on any platform. Now it's the best Windows browser, too.

I just can't stop chuckling - Pretty soon the only thing that will be left that looks like Windows when running Windows will be the startup screen.

In a couple more years it will be stupid to keep using Windows because it'll all be Mac software anyway.

On the reports of flying chairs - As an official, licensed developer for MS Windows I think Apple was probably already on MS's radar - or could it really have been a secret even to MS?

Mr. Ballmer, I feel your pain. It feels like an ice cream freeze on the roof of my mouth but you know what ...mine will be over in about 15 seconds ...yours is a little like the story of the flying dutchman. good luck you bald-headed dancer.

Safari Rocks on Windows, This will bw my default brower Mac and Windows. PERIOD!!!!!!

If anything, it's not only not faster than Firefox on my MacBook, it's slower than Safari 2.0 and that has always been the slowest.
The beta disk image had an uninstall program. Guess I'll have to use that to get Safari 2.0's "speed" back.

If anything, it's not only not faster than Firefox on my MacBook, it's slower than Safari 2.0 and that has always been the slowest.

Check if you're comparing cached vs. uncached speed...

I'm glad the next version of Safari will work with Tiger. Version 2 was released with Tiger and Panther users were not able to upgrade. Apple should have a preference to remove the brushed metal look in Tiger (maybe there's one in there somewhere). The Windows version has the smooth grey look, which I think is more attractive. And tt's in line with the new look for apple.com.

The folks posting that Apple will tie-in this new Safari to the iPhone to promote adoption are right. But ultimately, there is no direct profit from Safari for Windows. Apple must have some plans for Safari for Windows that will promote sales of iPods, Macs, and iPhones.

If anything, it's not only not faster than Firefox on my MacBook, it's slower than Safari 2.0 and that has always been the slowest.
The beta disk image had an uninstall program. Guess I'll have to use that to get Safari 2.0's "speed" back.

The only thing loading slower than Safari 2.0 is MDN, and that ALWAYS loads slower than anything else. I've tried about 9 sites so far, and all of them load faster than they did with Safari 2.0.

Non event. Would have been much better if Apple had released iChatAV for Windows.

Not surprised by this at all. I had mentioned this possibility to a co-worker last week. I'm glad to see Safari get revised, I hope it is much improved it needed updating. I'm glad Windows users get a taste of Safari too, as it's better than IE. I'm going to load Safari on my PC for sure and certainly on my Macs.