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See? We told you APple rocks, PC users. BUt you didn't listen!

First post! WARNING: Typing furiously can be hazardous to your post.

Consumer Reports, when you agree with us, we love you.

When you disagree with us, we hate you.

We need to get lives.

For desktops, Apple scored far better than any other company in reliability. 11% failure rate, compared to 15% for the very BEST PC company, and as bad as 21% for other companies.

For laptops, Apple scored second-best with 17% failure rate (the best was 16%). But less than 3% difference is meaningless within the margin of error according to Consumer Reports. And the worst company had a 19% failure rate. So not so much variation in laptop reliability.

Agreeing with correct info and disagreeing with incorrect info is the only behavior that makes any sense.

Agreeing ALL the time, or disagreeing all the time, now that would be rabid.

Now you have that life you wanted.

And I don't hate C R but they're full of mistakes in their product specs.

I see they fail to mention that the iMac HAS a display included in the price, while the systems they compare to do not.

For an open-minded purchaser, reliability and service satisfaction should be towards the top of the wish list. That is the one area that trumps price objections and appeals to even the least technically oriented buyer. This is an area Apple needs to stress at least as much as any other if they want the penetration % to climb. Just say it, ours works the best according to the leading consumer publication. Simple, and appeals to everybody.

I hate consumer reports more than anything else. Ever

I'm not always in agreement with Consumer Reports, but the fact remains CR is considered the gold standard in unbiased reviewing. CR has never lost a lawsuit alleging bias. Untold numbers of people rely on CR heavily for buying advice.

You don't know the history of Apple tech support.

I do.

Hey, Tom: What does the church say about the tech support? You'd have to be crazy to diss their support-oh, I forgot, there's no such thing.

Tom Cruise....love your posts. Especially when it comes out of no where and buried within a long thread. lol.

Why is it so hard for people to lose old habits? Just buy a Mac and understand that the Earth is round and more fascinating then you could ever imagine.

And this is why Apple is worth more than Dell once again!

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=DELL,AAPL&d=s

It wasn't their fault, they were supporting Windows.

The official statement from the Church of Scientology is that Tom Cruise's posts are no longer funny because someone jacked 'em from Rasterbator.

The CoS no longer endorses Tom Cruise's posts on MDN.

We would also like to extend an invite to all he MDN readers to come to Clearwater, Florida. We pretty much own every square inch of that place. Come to our headquarters here and mention MDN and receive $200.00 off your first audit.

There are only two types of people who live in Clearwater: Scientologists and The Hated.

Re: CoS

Now that's a funny post!

Cause you don't know the history of... nevermind.

Doesn't Microsoft own the church of Scientology, or is it the other way around?

What the hell...so you mean to say this is YET ANOTHER reason for switching to a Mac?

Aren't there enough reasons already?

Ahhhhhhhh.....so there is a connection between the Scientologists and the nuts from the Brownesville "Revival"......

Solving only 76% of Customer's problems isn't anything to brag about. It may be far better than the competition, but still has much room to improve.

What would have been interesting is finding out what percentage of people had to call Tech support at all. Hopefully the Mac would do even better against Windoze.

Consumer Reports claims that they are "unbiased" because they don't accept advertising, but they have an agenda that biases their ratings. If they treated computers like they do health care, we would all have a "right" to "free" tech support to remove virus, trojans, and spyware regardless of what stupid behavior (like running Windows) we did to get infected. Of coarse, "free" means putting a gun to your neighbors head to collect tax dollars to pay for it.

As nutty as Consumer Reports is, they aren't half as crazy as the Scientologists.

Scientologists are asshats. I know, call me Captain Obvious!

Macs, for those sick of the Windows BS!

So apparently it's best to skip tech support entirely and just go get service from an independent provider. That's interesting.

>For desktops, Apple scored far better than any other company in reliability. 11% failure rate, compared to 15% for the very BEST PC company, and as bad as 21% for other companies.

If the margin of error is 3%, then Apple scored the SAME as that 15% company, because that company's real number could have been as low as 12%, and Apple's as high as 14%

And with laptops, everyone's within the margin of error, so according to them, every laptop's reliability is, within their ability to detect, the same.

Suprising how nobodys's saying Wow, there goes our theory on superior Mac laptop reliability...

Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics.

The statistic tells you nothing about the NEED to call tech support. It only tells what happens AFTER you call tech support.

By way of example, suppose you have a thousand each of PC and Mac users.

Suppose 10 of those thousand PC users call tech support, and 64% get their problems solved, then that would leave 3-4 unhappy people.

Suppose 100 of those thousand Apple users call, 76% get their problem solved, that would leave 24 unhappy mac users.

So the missing thing with respect to determining what this number means is the overall number of people who NEED to call tech support.

I'm not saying the ratio is as stated above, or that Apple is better or worse. Just that is a hypothetical which demonstrates the flaw in the inference MDN and many other posters draw from the statistics.