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Finally some respect for our troops from liberal America.... it's about time.

Don't see Dell doing any of that.

Haha, Rush!
Nice one!

here we go again... :p

Dell doesnt make any more sales, so it has no1 to award anythying.

Eric, that's because no one's buying dells anymore...

Liberal America respects our troops. Enough in fact to bring them home. We're just not happy spending 750 million a day on a very unpopular war.

Yeah, have you noticed the lack of Dell commericals.

I don't see HP doing it either... But then again, he wasn't buying a PeeCee...

Al, tell it to the marines. The ones who will save you from the radical muslims who have NO liberal views. Especially when it comes to women and Americans. The radical people who believe they'll get 70 virgins in heaven if they die killing one of us.

No-one told them it's 70 seventy-year-old virgins.

Yea, that's it, pull out and let the factions perform mutual genocide.

Check back in a year or so and help the last ones standing rebuild the oil field infrastructure and get that black gold flowing again.

Stop that war, let the Iraqi people decide the outcome and lets get back to business.

Heartless liberal bastards.

What is it with these beleaguered republicans. I don't read this site to see mac news politicized.

From the evidence I've seen, it's the Neo-Cons who don't respect our troops.

Dearest Al;

It's typical of liberals to qualify a war as needing to be popular in order to be the right thing to do. History is full of unpopular decisions that later proved to be absolutely necessary in retrospect.

Sincerely,
I Hope Al Becomes Truly Informed

Liberal Americe doesn't give a fig about our troops and it's pure B.S. lip service when they pretend otherwise. What liberal America cares mostly about is hamstringing every effort to strengthen America and weaken the enemy. Liberal America wants to give the enemy the victory, which is what will happen if we "redeploy" - otherwise known to the rest of the world as "turning tail and bailing out". Period! End of story!

Ohhhhhh-BOY! And aWAY we GO!!!!

Smoke \'em if you got \'em, boys ... this is gonna be fun!!!!

All the best,
Jackie G.

Did you read the remark about if he had bought a Dell in the article

Now, imagine of this guy had bought a Dell Laptop for his son? Not that Michael Dell would be around to help out, as he is busy paying fines for running shabby books, but just think of the potential "gifts" the Tech. Sgt. might have had to endure:
- MS Zune (the brown one)
- Brown bag from supermarket (to match the Zune)
- Music card for Napster, or some other lame, limited music store.

Why does it have to be Conservative vs Liberal? Can't it just be that two draft dodgers got us into an expensive side show to the real war, and they don't know how to get us out?

a heart warming story.......that makes me start thinking about my man in iraq.

Geez, does everything have to become a right versus left politics pissing contest?

We are winning..... We win and America Wins.... Liberals are on the wrong side of hisory again. We are still in Japan, Germany, & South Korea. We will still be in Iraq 60 years from now too. If the libs really wanted us to get out why are they funding ( through congress) the largest US embassy in the world... under constrction in Bagdad right now.....?

not much for $1 billion

After watching the both polticle sides in action on MDN, think I will vote for that Ralph Noodle guy..

It doesn't matter now whether you support the war in Iraq or not – the fact is that if we pull our troops out now, before the new Iraqi government has sufficient means to protect itself and the Iraqi public, the extremists will quickly throw the country into chaos (nothing like what is going on now).

We are doing a lot of good over there. The infrastructure is coming back to a level it hasn't seen in decades. You know, little things like clean, reliable water, always-on electricity, people able to work and support their families. Silly little things like that.

If the U.S. pulls out now, all that goes to hell. Go read some of the articles about how the Iraqi policemen in many circumstances don't even have weapons or ammunition (why we don't give them ammunition, I don't know). A high school buddy of mine is on his second tour, and he confirms this is the case. You're not going to be very effective at quelling a riot or stopping terrorists using a stick. Add to that the fact that the terrorists are targeting the police, and maybe you get an idea of what is happening.

Right or wrong, liberal or conservative, millions or billions of dollars, it doesn't matter. If the U.S. pulls out and leaves the Iraqi government high and dry, we have done the biggest disservice to the Iraqi people imaginable – we've left them to the mercy of terrorists, who would love nothing more than to have a place as big as Iraq to train and run free in. It is now our moral and ethical obligation to help the country stabilize itself.

The U.S. started it, the U.S. needs to finish it. By finishing it, I mean getting the Iraqi government stabilized and able to defend itself and the Iraqi people. Otherwise the death toll to this point will be nothing compared to what will occur.

OK - Enough. I'm on Active this week due to a shortage the Leadership Training Team had here in ***. After seeing this story, I put it up on my blog, as I am a big supporter of Apple since I bought my G4 almost 4 years ago. I check this site daily - it keeps me up to date with what is happening in the mac world. It's one site not blocked on the NMCI grid. Chrissy One, Zune Tang, Monkey Boy; I enjoy them all.

I did NOT post this to begin yet another right / left debate between Neo-Cons and Moonbats. The whole premise of my blog was to give Apple the kudos for recognizing a major sale. Hell, would you feel better if he bought it at Best Buy ?

I'm not posting my opinions about what I fight for here - I post my Apple thoughts, my despise the MS World that I grew up in and finally woke up to walk away from.

Sorry this led to yet another political debate.

My two cents....

NavyTim

"It doesn't matter now whether you support the war in Iraq or not – the fact is that if we pull our troops out now, before the new Iraqi government has sufficient means to protect itself and the Iraqi public, the extremists will quickly throw the country into chaos"

true.

we learned that when we (for the most part) pulled out if Afghanistan.

...you know, where terrorists actually hung out BEFORE we created a whole new group of people who hate us in Iraq?

...a place that actually was tied to 9/11?

.....you know, where we actually HAD to go?

any of this ringing a bell?

of coarse if we wanted the Iraqi government to protect the public, maybe we should have acted like it and guarded munition dumps and records offices when we went in, rather than guarding the oil ministry.

no. lets just remember that you don't changes horses mid-stream. the current administration got us into a mess they saw coming, didn't plan for, and mismanaged, but if we just stay in a little longer, just a few hundred more american lives, i am sure they will work it all out.

....i just hope we can kill the terrorists faster than we create them. (yes, that deserves an eye roll emoticon)

MW: so far "however" we have been making them FAR faster than we can kill them.....

and NavyTim, while you may not think that you are posting your political opinions, if you refer to one side of the issue as moonbats....

here is the thing, i was taught that defending america meant defending a constitution of ideals of freedom. or as someone else said, "i may not agree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it."

just a thought.

i am sorry you posted what is a very cool Apple story, and it is a political debate, whether you think i am moonbat or not, i really would rather that you and your fellow men at arms were home and safe, or barring that at least fighting in a necessary war rather than a slow motion train-wreck/disaster with no point and poor planning.

and yes, i do think that is supporting the troops, whether they call me names or not.

Because some say "they respect the troops" that doesn't mean they ever could or would be able to show that respect. Many have now fallen under the spell of the evil one, material is more important than people. Most who read here respect their own pockets more than anything else on Earth, Because they are believing a series of grand lies.

I really don't think it was that "much" for Apple to give. Of course, it is nice they did something though. It's not like they had to. A good story.

Something for nothing is always better than nothing for something.

unfortunately, yes, a lot of people who such things as "support the troops" don't actually mean it, and have no actions to show for it.

...on both sides.

while i have no idea who "the evil one" is meant to be, i do agree that we should have a more human centered rather than materialist society. including humans outside our "tribe." tribalism and ethnocentrism play far too large a factor in our foreign policy and military decisions.

it is frightening that modern political leaders (since, say Eisenhower) sound more like local bullies egging the gang on to beat up on the unpopular kid, than like leaders.

but that really is a topic for a different forum than a Mac site....

@makemineamac

i think that is the point. it isn't like they knew about it, or it is something they planned, or it is the Apple store, it just happened that the purchase was a Mac and when Apple heard that....

they are a pretty cool company after all.

More Power to you NavyTim, you all have my prayers, and hopes for safety. As for my political views, they're Mine, and you can't have em! Let's just say I believe in our Country's Strength, Forces, and Resillience, and no matter the outcome in Iraq for all those souls both US and Iraqii, we are the force of freedom on this planet. America is the Land of theFree! One more thing... the mdn magic word for this post of mine is "blood". How ironic.

All our service people need to be treated this way.

I cut them enormous slack when I see them in our store!

Bring back the draft!

@ NavyTim

Mate as an Australian, may I please say THANK YOU.

Everytime there is the REMOTEST chance to politicise (sorry politicize) a story on here the right-wing and left-wing LOONS (they both are LOONS) get on here and start throwing their paper arrows!

I wish they would realise three things:

1) It has nothing to do with the information on here, and all it does is SPOIL this site

2) No matter HOW MANY insults they throw, they will NEVER alter the opposing LOONS point of view - so you have to ask why are they so damn THICK in the head to not realise this, and not waste their energy?!

3) The rest of us DON'T give a toss!

I notice that since you have posted they have scurried off under their political rocks to hide - no doubt ashamed to have been called on their pathetic behaviour by someone that is ACTUALLY risking their life for their nation, rather than the armchair critics back home (and the critics exist on BOTH sides of politics). If that isn't the reason they have stopped posting since you posted, it DAMN WELL SHOULD BE!

I for one hope Tech. Sgt. Daniel Lopez enjoys his Apple products.

And I wish him, you and all your fellow service men and women all the best. May you return home safe - whenever that ends up being.

My 2 cents,

Luke

PS - I have always used my 2 cents to sign off my posts here (I don't post as often as I used to, because I have been sick and tired of the bulls%^t politics), it isn't some sort of sicophantic copy cat thing.

"We are doing a lot of good over there. The infrastructure is coming back to a level it hasn't seen in decades. You know, little things like clean, reliable water, always-on electricity, people able to work and support their families. Silly little things like that."

in other words... all the things they had before we invaded.

Thank you for your service to your country, and to the world. I know you don't hear it often enough, but there are many who respect you and appreciate what you are doing. God bless you.

MDN Word: feeling, as in I'm feeling thankful for you

You people are idiots.
This is a Mac news site, not your pulpit to spew your ignorance, intolerance and stupidity at each other.

Apple did a nice thing for one of it's customers-leave it at that morons.

By the way-who is navy tim and why is he reporting on this?

It's not a "war".
It's an invasion of a sovereign entity by America.
Only in Washington can 22 billion dollars be called a very small difference. And that difference will keep getting bigger. Over the next five years it will total nearly 205 billion dollars in additional discretionary spending. That 205 billion dollars averages out to about 112 million dollars per day, 4.7 million dollars per hour, 78,000 dollars per minute. Put another way, that's about 1,300 dollars in higher spending every second of every minute of every hour of every day of every year for the next five years. That's a lot of money -- even for career politicians in Washington. In fact, at that pace, Democrats in Congress would have spent an extra 300,000 dollars since I began these remarks.
-- Put another way, over the same span of time that the virtual 300,000 dollars in proposed spending were being "spent" by Democrats, 888,462 real dollars were spent on Dubya's war in Iraq (based on current Congressional Research Service estimates of $10 billion/month). And here's the running tally (provided by zfacts.com): $416,695,161,708. White House, Aug. 2, 2007

Hey M.A.D.,

Thanks for always watching Fox News, remember we are "Fair and Balanced".

I went to a local punk rock concert recently, a band came on stage and said, "To all of the service men and women over in Iraq and Afghanistan.... FUCK YOU!" Now i'm consistent with MY political views (not any parties) and i seem to draw many parallels with the democrats. Now I think of this certain punk rocker and i believe that's what many republicans think democrats are like. let me just say NAY! Me and my other "democratic" friends were to shakes of a lambs tail from meeting him in the mosh pit and beating those ridiculous thoughts out of him. so please remember...

Democrat does not necessarily = Unpatriotic

Republican does not necessarily = Blind followers

Americans are so funny.

They don´t understand that it is 70 virgins for the hole eternity. It is not 100 or 1000 or 100 000 or 100 000 000 000 years. It is for the hole eternity. 70 virgins is way too little. No deal for me.

It's typical of liberals to qualify a war as needing to be popular in order to be the right thing to do. History is full of unpopular decisions that later proved to be absolutely necessary in retrospect.

It's the victors that write the history, I think you'll find they always say they made the right decision and then force everyone to learn it from their history books.

Al, tell it to the marines. The ones who will save you from the radical muslims who have NO liberal views. Especially when it comes to women and Americans. The radical people who believe they'll get 70 virgins in heaven if they die killing one of us.

How about the 20% of Americans that believe Armageddon will happen in their lifetimes, and the significant proportion of those working to make it happen sooner so they can get the rapture quicker. Search for 'end times', it's pretty scary stuff and they only put their best face forward until you dig deeper.

The infrastructure is coming back to a level it hasn't seen in decades. You know, little things like clean, reliable water, always-on electricity, people able to work and support their families..

The infrastructure was deliberately destroyed, who bombed the water plants, sewage plants and power stations? Baghdad power supply is still worse than before the war when sanctions were in effect.

The costs of the war are dwarfed by the extra profits earned by Exxon, BP, Raytheon and all the military-oil-banking industries. Think about it, taxpayers money spent and the profits generated funneled in to executive wage packets and shareholders accounts.

Which industry do Bush, Cheney, Rice come from?

Smedley Butler was a war hero, see what he had to say.

Aren't the overwhelming majority of active Al Queda terrorists from Saudi Arabia? Such as the ones on 9/11? And the majority of the suicide bombers in Iraq today? Why isn't the US in Saudi Arabia, at the root cause of the problem?

Oh, I forgot, it's because Saudi Arabia is where the US has its most lucrative defense sales...

no actually Saudi Arabia is where we get our oil.... you know the stuff you libs and greenies wont let us take from our own country!

Whoa.....

Congrats to Apple for reaching the $billion online sales mark!

To those who think that "liberal America" doesn't "support the troops" ---

Listen.

And listen well . . .

You. Are. Completely. Wrong.

How do I know? I know because I am an Air Force Staff Sergeant. And I am also "liberal America." In fact, after I post this I'll be getting in the shower to put on my green suit and go to work. Just like I do every day. This war is stupid and pointless, not to mention illegal and immoral, but I still have to go to work and do my little bit. So shut up already about this "liberals don't support the troops" nonsense. It's purely ridiculous.

Would you like to know a bit more?

This stupid, pointless, illegal, and immoral is driving even active duty service members away from the Republican Party, which as we all know has traditionally been a Republican stronghold. In my own unit I estimate a 70-30 split against the war and against the President.

So please, let's talk about things that are a) germane to Apple, which is why we're here after all, and b) within the scope of logic.

Conservatives: just because your vision of the world is crashing and burning right before your very eyes doesn't mean you have any right to blame liberals for your failures. We've been telling you for years this was all a bad idea which was doomed to failure.

It's pretty bad when even the President is drawing comparisons to Vietnam -- in an effort to **win** support.

How far through the looking glass are we, exactly?

Ahem. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go fix **your** airplanes.

An <a >example</a> of the love displayed by a Republican administration for our troops.

The Army and Marines starting requesting a total of 20,700 mine-resistant and ambush-protected vehicles back in 2005 - some two years after the start of the Iraq War.

Yet reports suggest that The Pentagon - which is, IIRC, in charge of ensuring a successful outcome to this operation (i.e. the delivery of a stable government within a viable state complete with the safe return of as many service personnel and external contractors as possible - didn't start working on the delivery of these vehicles until March of this year.

Even so, out of the 20,700 vehicles requested, the Pentagon will fail to deliver on its original target of 3,900 vehicles for this budget year and will only deliver 1,500 of these essential vehicles to Iraq. Even if you take the more recent public target of 3,000 vehicles, it still means that the US military and its contractors have failed to deliver some 50% of the vehicles targeted for this year.

If this war is the most important conflict in ensuring the freedom and security of the country, can someone please explain how a country which, in World War II, could build a B-24 bomber (that's right, a bomber - a big shiny plane with multiple engines and lots of moving parts) every 63 minutes can only build, deliver and ship 1,500 armored vehicles in a year.

Or, like the miners in Utah whose safety was considered unimportant by this (mal)administration, is the safe return of the personnel in Iraq and Afghanistan not really as important as their public proclamations suggest?

Free stuff from Dell?
Hard to give away stuff nobody wants.

Sorry, that's this story here .