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So much for tv Take 3 hardware to go along with it.

Blame the studios for being stingy on content and pricing. Apple won't heavily invest until they come ready to play.

Oct 29, 09 - 02:58 pm Comment from: Jubei

I love my ATV. Keep it going Apple.

Oct 29, 09 - 03:01 pm Comment from: rwahrens

Finally, Apple TV supports Events from iPhoto! It's about time.

I am eager to get this downloaded to try it out. I've got a rented movie to watch this weekend.

Oct 29, 09 - 03:04 pm Comment from: TowerTone

Hah! This is (personally) hilarious.
Not 45 minutes ago I checked for an update. None available.
Since I am in the process of moving, I then started disconnecting my entertainment system.

I'm in stitches....

Someone PLEASE tell me if the background is still BLACK and not the nasty White of iTunes 9 if it is I'll be sticking the the version I have

Bummer. I won't get to upgrade until tonite. Anyone upgraded yet? How is the UI?

Oct 29, 09 - 03:12 pm Comment from: 84 Mac Guy

I hope the support for iPhoto Events truly works so I can torture visitors with my vacation pics.

Oct 29, 09 - 03:13 pm Comment from: HMCIV

I did something wrong. All I see now is a Windows Login.

Oct 29, 09 - 03:16 pm Comment from: Jimithy

As an AppleTV owner, I'm glad Apple is still paying attention to the device and giving us a better software experience for free. I was worried for a while that AppleTV was gonna go the way of the dodo.

Oct 29, 09 - 03:16 pm Comment from: TowerTone

HMCIV

Welcome to the Social(disease)

Oct 29, 09 - 03:19 pm Comment from: TigerCliff

I was hoping for new hardware, but I'll probably bit the bullet soon and buy it ... mainly for music and photos connected to home entertainment center. It pretty much does what I want; however, like everyone else I'd like more storage and 1080p.

Oct 29, 09 - 03:29 pm Comment from: PhxDoc

Why can't Apple get all the studios to release movie rentals on iTunes the same day the dvd is released? Why would the studios care if their revenue comes from dvd rentals or iTunes rentals. This is the single biggest thing not allowing everyone from having an appleTV. If Apple ever got this done, that would be the end of Netflix.

Oct 29, 09 - 03:33 pm Comment from: iWill

I wonder if we will see the ability to play other online content, specifically the new music video venture called vevo.com?

The as yet to be released vevo, is a partnership between Google/YouTube, Universal Music and AT&T;.

The videos will connect to iTunes and share revenues with all parties. MTV for the digital living room.

more info [url="http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/vevo-partners-with-att-for-music-videos-on-the-go-20091027/
"]here[/url].

No subscriptions offered? I'm glad I sold mine 2 weeks ago. mac mini with a 32 inch Samsung HDTV is the way to go

Lava Head,

Don't worry, the main screen mostly black, but the very top has some light gray. The rest of the UI is the same. Overall, I think it looks pretty good.

Oct 29, 09 - 03:44 pm Comment from: TowerTone

Well, my Pioneer was still hangin', so I just plugged that darn TV back in.

Internet radio looks good.

Basically they just shifted the main menu horizontally with the submenus underneath each.

Seems snappier....

Oct 29, 09 - 03:51 pm Comment from: Mac4lfe

I'm off to upgrade my Apple TV. Sweet.....

Oct 29, 09 - 03:53 pm Comment from: Not That Steve

it's black. streaming Internet radio!

Oct 29, 09 - 03:54 pm Comment from: John E

why oh why won't Apple enable the ATV's USB port to allow connecting a big external drive so the ATV can become your complete home media server? the software update for ATV needed to make this work should be simple for Apple, given all the sharing options OS X already offers.

(you can accomplish this now kind of with an external drive connected to any Mac on a home LAN - if that Mac is turned on and the correct user with the master iTunes and iPhoto libraries is logged in. but that is clearly not as good as an always-on always-accessible-to-everyone ATV HMS.)

MS. HP, and others are already selling HMS products. there is a real need and market for it.

Jobs is so damn stubborn.

Oct 29, 09 - 04:02 pm Comment from: Davecc

@John E

Maybe you might like this set up

davecc

http://www.atvflash.com/

And what about front row?
Does any body knows i it is possible to control "ElGato eye TV" from with in the front row?

Oct 29, 09 - 04:07 pm Comment from: HughB

Jobs is truly stubborn. I am buying me some MSTV. Gettin my movies from iZunes store. That will show that stingy old Steve.

Oct 29, 09 - 04:11 pm Comment from: HughB

@Troy
You can control EyeTV from your iPhone or iPod Touch thru Wifi with Keymote. Great app. And of course you can control part of ATV with Remote iPhone app as well.

Oct 29, 09 - 04:23 pm Comment from: iWill

Loving the new interface. Especially nice is the new ability to stream internet radio directly from Apple TV, as opposed to streaming via computer and AirTunes.

One can easily imagine streaming internet TV this way too..

Thanks Apple!

.:.

Oct 29, 09 - 04:25 pm Comment from: methamphibian

first impressions:

Clean and Snappy!

radio is great too.

g'bye, have to go play around some more

Oct 29, 09 - 04:34 pm Comment from: methamphibian

more focus on MY Movies too. the top bar shows "Unwatched Movies" in my library. whether I bought them from Tunes or not. nice

Oct 29, 09 - 04:53 pm Comment from: Yours Smugly

@ Lava_Head:
Apple just released iTunes v9.0.2, which now includes an option to switch the background back to black. Just for you.

Oct 29, 09 - 04:55 pm Comment from: methamphibian

portrait pics show up as landscape. that's a pretty awful bug

Still white on black, very little has changed apart from the top menu design and a move to HELVETICA.

Oct 29, 09 - 05:10 pm Comment from: macbones

Why is there not an iTunes visulizer- THAT would look great coming across my 46" TV.

Oct 29, 09 - 05:14 pm Comment from: Connor MacBook

Does that mean we're now calling the next hardware upgrade tv 4.0?

I've held off so long I gave no choice but to hold off longer.

Oct 29, 09 - 05:33 pm Comment from: steve32465

I love the new user interface! Great improvement! Has this thing exited "Hobby" status? If not, it's about time it does!

Oct 29, 09 - 06:07 pm Comment from: Elsic1975a

Well, until there's some sort of official support for both Hulu and Netflix watch it now (yes, I do realize that these conflict with iTunes, but screw it; this is what I want!) or the ability to record HDTV programming direct to the ATV (better yet, to upload to my home computer using the ATV as the converting and uploading device), I'll pass and get one of the new Mac Minis, thanks.

Will not buy ATV until it is full 1080p and plays AVCHD files from my camcorder.

Good for you, US customers, but please realize that most foreign iTunes stores (e.g., Belgium) don't even offer a single TV-show or Movie.
This is crazy, because a not negligible fraction of the available TV content is being produced in the US anyway, so Apple knows exactly who the royalty fees should go to.

Apple! Please clean up your act before the cable companies command the movie market!!! The time window for Apple to is closing fast.

How long do we have to wait before Apple's distribution model will compete with the cable companies?

@ vanfruniken

Unfortunately (and don't quote me here, Im not an expert), from what I understand the stoopid movie studios are calling the shots on iTunes/ATV on this one.

Deal with the devil I guess. But I may be wrong here. Anyone know why Apple seems kinda stuck in limbo on this?

Thank you! Davecc

Oct 29, 09 - 08:54 pm Comment from: John E

yup thanks davecc. atvflash pretty much turns an ATV into an HTPC for just $50! $279 total vs. $599 for a Mac Mini.

still cannot fathom why Apple doesn't offer the same thing, or most of it anyway. only hobbyists buy the Mini to use for an HTPC, a much smaller market. whereas the expanded ATV could sell ten times as many.

Wait Till January...

I'll stick with the new WD TV LIve. For half the price it does everything the AppleTV does and more. Everything except the Itunes Store (which is fine by me anyway, I have A PS3 if I want to do HD movies). If Apple TV supported Matroska and other media containers/codecs and could see them over the network, I'd be all over it. But sadly at twice the money it still doesn't....

Oct 30, 09 - 01:21 am Comment from: Cubert

We're getting there folks! Games and a game controller are next. Also, streaming movies, video, music, and pictures to any Apple device (including the iPhone and iPod touch) eliminating the need for storage is the next step. Anywhere in the world - anytime.

Why doesn't Stevie just combine the marginal product that is AppleTV with the excellent imac w/27" screen (or let's make that screen as large as we want!) and achieve total convergence of web/tv/radio/all media!?

I would buy that product no matter how ridiculously it was overpriced.

Mr. Convergence

Oct 30, 09 - 08:37 am Comment from: stmix

Anyone know how big the download is? I'm on Hughes Satellite, and don't wanna get fapped. I wish Apple would throw us a bone here, and let us schedule downloads in ATV, iTunes, and Software Update. I could actually purchase from the iTunes Store if I could schedule the download for 3AM.

Oct 30, 09 - 12:42 pm Comment from: nittany4

anyone know if there is a way to add more internet radio stations?
Does it sync them from your iTunes? or does it maintain it's own library of stations?