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Apple iPhone already leads Windows Mobile in North American market share, Q3 2007
Friday, December 14, 2007 - 10:56 AM EDT

"In its first full quarter of sales, the iPhone has already climbed past Microsoft’s entire lineup of Windows Mobile smartphones in North America, according to figures compiled by Canalys and published by Symbian. That puts the iPhone ahead of smartphones running Symbian, Linux, and the Palm OS, but behind the first place RIM BlackBerry. The figures mesh with retail sales data already reported by NPD, which similarly described the size of the US market with a 27% chunk bit out by Apple’s iPhone," Daniel Eran Dilger reports for RoughlyDrafted.

"Apple’s debut at second place across the entire North American smartphone market region for the third quarter ending in September is particularly noteworthy because the iPhone was only being sold in the US, and is only available through AT&T; all of the other mobile platforms are available to Sprint, Verizon Wireless, and T-Mobile as well as AT&T," Dilger reports. "The iPhone wasn’t available in the significant markets of Canada and Mexico, along with parts of the US that AT&T does not service, including much of Vermont, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Alaska."

Much more in the full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance. - Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer, April, 2007

Microsoft CEO Ballmer laughs at Apple iPhone, January 17, 2007:

Direct link via YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5oGaZIKYvo


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Dec 14, 07 - 12:04 pm Comment from: Macintosh Sauce

Apple to Microsoft: "BOOYAH!" LOL

Dec 14, 07 - 12:05 pm Comment from: dd

Said it before and I'll say it again. Pretty soon, people ALL over the world will own Macintosh computers in the form of a phone. Once that happens, why would you want a Windows box?

Dec 14, 07 - 12:06 pm Comment from: Dutch

The iPhone may not be available in Mexico but I have a lot of friends, who like me are using it. In fact I would say that the same stats obtained in the U.S. apply to the people I know in the IT industry.

Dec 14, 07 - 12:06 pm Comment from: Wandering joe

Meanwhile the weather forecast calls for more showers of chairs and thunderous outbursts in the Redmond area.

Dec 14, 07 - 12:07 pm Comment from: bob

i love that video, absolute fear haha

Dec 14, 07 - 12:10 pm Comment from: loopy_nj

As Steve Ballmer throws another chair or two...

Dec 14, 07 - 12:11 pm Comment from: Gandalf

20% - 25% of the $249+ market, we don't compete at the low end - Ballmer.

Now they do, their $249 Zune is in the bargain bins at $80.

Dec 14, 07 - 12:12 pm Comment from: Gordon

Where's the thrown chair graphic MDN?

Dec 14, 07 - 12:14 pm Comment from: peaPod

Why does Ballmer still have a job?

Dec 14, 07 - 12:14 pm Comment from: Calli46

What a ... <-- ([moron, thoughtless, stupid, idiot, fool], choose at least one).

Dec 14, 07 - 12:15 pm Comment from: mm

To Ballmer-

How does it feel to be a f-ing idiot? How are you going to spin this one? You are beaten. It's only a matter of time. Eventually you and Gatesy will be exposed for the dumbasses you are. Pushing inferior, buggy, swiss cheese, infested, illogical software to the masses for years. I will enjoy watching you fall.

Dec 14, 07 - 12:15 pm Comment from: Predrag

Even funnier quote:

"...But if you actually take a look at the 1.3 billion phones that get sold, I'd prefer to have our software in 60% or 70% or 80% of them, than I would to have 2% or 3%, which is what Apple might get."

I'm sure he would prefer to have that much; apparently, he never did, nor will he ever get anywhere near that much. And Apple is fast approaching its target.

I can't wait for the next chance some creative, resourceful journalist would get to talk to Ballmer, to pull out these statements and call him on that. I would pay good money just to see the reaction on Ballmer's face and here him squirm.

Dec 14, 07 - 12:17 pm Comment from: G Spank

I love that video too...

Dec 14, 07 - 12:18 pm Comment from: Viktor

TELCEL is already selling the iPhone in Mexico, but they sell it with no contract. The weird thing is that you can buy a iphone in almost any TELCEL retail store, but their web page does not states that they are the official distribuitor of the iphne.

Dec 14, 07 - 12:19 pm Comment from: Macromancer

I love how he seems visibly uncomfortable in that interview.

BTW, today's lunch special on the Microsoft campus: Crow.

Dec 14, 07 - 12:21 pm Comment from: dd

All I'm waiting for is the next gen version of the iPhone (not the simply flash memory update). Once that happens, which is supposed to be in the latter half of 2008, Apple has my money. Add me to the count!

Dec 14, 07 - 12:21 pm Comment from: Spark

According to Balmer, Zunes big strategy is "Community". Even there short lived commercials tried to imply that there was nothing more fun for a group than to all plug into their Zunes and start squirting. Did anyone at Redmond actually look at the reality of personal entertainment devices, such as the iPod? You plug your ears, tune out your surroundings, and let your brain be stimulated by what is pumped out by the device. It is the LEAST community-friendly device ever invented. There are scores of research papers decrying iPod users that are shut off from their surroundings while immersed in their personal and private entertainment. Zunes big strategy was a non-starter from the beginning.

Dec 14, 07 - 12:22 pm Comment from: Logan

That's amazing. I mean, I hoped, but I didn't think it would actually happen. At least not so soon.

I would love to see Google win the bid on the 700Mhz spectrum, then Apple start selling phones for it... that would be a dream come true.

Dec 14, 07 - 12:27 pm Comment from: Cubert

That video always makes me incredulous that the CEO of a major corporation can lie through his teeth with absolutely no consequences what so ever. Billy Boy (AKA Turtle Boy - trademarked by Ampar) has been doing the same for years without anyone ever calling his bluff or asking to see the "facts" he is citing.

It kinda reminds me of John Street here in Philly and the stats he makes up off the top of his head during press conferences.

Dec 14, 07 - 12:29 pm Comment from: Ampar

But Microsoft marketing has a new strategy.
Their newest and shinier Windows Live Messenger with embedded advertising and feature-stuffed instant messaging will storm the smartphone market.

It will be called Windows IMmobile.

Dec 14, 07 - 12:30 pm Comment from: Cubert

MDN,
I like the new registered symbol. Very Apple-like!

Dec 14, 07 - 12:31 pm Comment from: Predrag

to expand on Spark;

The 'Welcome to the social' theme epitomises what was the cause of the downfall of the dot-com bubble. Somebody in Microsoft came up with this 'brilliant' idea where a group of people would exchange files through a wireless interface and that would make for an appealing feature. This reminds me of a story about a dot-com company from the high-flying years. This fictitious company came up with an idea of controlling computer monitors remotely through a web interface. You wouldn't need to be in front of your monitor, pushing buttons, in order to change contrast, brightness, hue, resolution, etc. You could do that by accessing all the settings from anywhere in the world through a web browser. The story follows the meteoric rise and subsequent fall of this company, its founders, developers and other staff. The 'brilliant' idea is just as absurd as social interaction between portable audio player users.

Dec 14, 07 - 12:34 pm Comment from: madgunde

Microsoft is going down, one business at a time.

Dec 14, 07 - 12:36 pm Comment from: Winston

Ballmer is the George Costanza of CEOs: whenever he says something, believe the opposite.

@Cubert: Pity the poor Temple students next year who'll draw the short straw and get John Street as a professor. He'll be teaching Revisionist History 101.

Dec 14, 07 - 12:36 pm Comment from: Ampar

Cubert: I heard a rumor that the Turtle Boy and Fester Show might be opening for the next Hannah Montana concert tour. They're going to wear latex masks and squirt the crowd with Super Soakers to warm them up. It was J Allard's idea.

Dec 14, 07 - 12:41 pm Comment from: Raymond from DC

peaPod asks, "Why does Ballmer still have a job?" Maybe because he's probably still the second largest shareholder in the company. So I guess he'll leave when he's good and ready. Which suits us just fine. Let him go down with the ship.

Dec 14, 07 - 12:43 pm Comment from: Cubert

Winston,
So true. A good friend of mine is a very high ranking police officer who meets with Street on an almost daily basis. The stats he cites about crime and the police are completely made up - almost all the time!

Dec 14, 07 - 12:48 pm Comment from: Cubert

Ampar,
But the highlight of their new traveling show will be when Ballmer (Uncle Fester) shows how many light bulbs he stick in his mouth and light up. Turtle Boy gets in on the act, too, but I'm not going to say where he sticks his light bulb. Let's just say that Gates' routinely refers to Vista as Fista.

Dec 14, 07 - 12:50 pm Comment from: Mr. Reeee

You can understand why Gates decided to bail from Microsoft.

Why did they put that oaf Ballmer in charge is beyond me. Note how he has been publicly invisible since those idiotic iPhone comments.

Dec 14, 07 - 12:51 pm Comment from: JAYGEE

Wait till Google release their mobile software. There will be even less Windows mobiles out there!

Dec 14, 07 - 12:51 pm Comment from: 8/orb.gif

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Dec 14, 07 - 12:57 pm Comment from: ⻯丽 錄◍

Love that video, think we will see a lot of it in the future as well

Dec 14, 07 - 01:06 pm Comment from: AAPL

I like steve ballmer

so so very much

Dec 14, 07 - 01:15 pm Comment from: HotinPlaya

@Viktor

TELCEL is not selling the iPhone at any of the "company" stores or offering data plans for an iPhone like they do for the blackberry

You are seeing iPhones being sold at "privately owned TELCEL resellers". They are bring them down and unlocking them for resale, with out an Apple warranty and they run on pay as you go Amigo cards. They are averaging around $7,000.00mn (peso)

It will be a long time before we see an "official" iPhone in Mexico, 1st indication is when we get an iTunes store.

You can find an iPhone in any country in the world,

I have been using mine in Mexico since June (unlocked)

Dec 14, 07 - 01:29 pm Comment from: Ampar

Offtopic:

Re: Using an ampersand in MDN feedback.

I use the HTML code for ampersand.

& = ampersand symbol followed by amp with a semi-colon and no spaces

(http://rabbit.eng.miami.edu/info/htmlchars.html)

Dec 14, 07 - 01:45 pm Comment from: Hey Baldmer

Hey Stevie: If you're still interested in the mobile market, you can do something creative for a change and buy a few Apple shares
I'm sure nobody here will say anything.

Dec 14, 07 - 02:04 pm Comment from: Viktor

@HotinPlaya
You are absolutely right, they sell it for 8500 in monterrey (I got it for 6000 pesos, but not from Telcel)
Too bad that Carlos Slim is a Share holder from apple and he can not bring the iPhone to his companies (Telcel and America Movil).

Dec 14, 07 - 02:06 pm Comment from: KingMel

Ealier this year Apple had sold zero phones. M$ competed fairly well against the iPhone prior to its release. Not a surprise, even for M$.

Less that 6 months after actually being released for sale* selling zero the iPhone is kicking M$'s butt. Again, not a surprise.

What Ballmer would like is far different from reality. However, Bobo has the last laugh because he could probably buy the lifetime labor output of all of the MDN regulars and still have a lot of money left over. How's that for irony.

Dec 14, 07 - 02:11 pm Comment from: Ampar

"However, Bobo has the last laugh because he could probably buy the lifetime labor output of all of the MDN regulars and still have a lot of money left over."


Very true. But I'll bet his personal chef regularly spits in his food.

Dec 14, 07 - 02:12 pm Comment from: Connor MacBook

@dd

True, I have some Mac-bashing colleagues who are using OS X without even realizing (they have an iPod touch).

Dec 14, 07 - 02:12 pm Comment from: John C. Randolph

"Why does Ballmer still have a job?"

Probably because the largest individual shareholder still supports him.

-jcr

Dec 14, 07 - 02:17 pm Comment from: Realist

Come on MDN, you know the truth. The iPhone is a slick toy, but for true business users, it blows. When the Zune phone arrives, it will bring Apple to it's knees.
Balmer is one of the smartest guys on the planet. He can lead his troops into battle, unlike Shepherd Jobs, who just teases you with his no substance approach.

Dec 14, 07 - 02:31 pm Comment from: ken1w

> There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance.

So I guess that just means Windows Mobile never had any "significant market share."

Dec 14, 07 - 02:39 pm Comment from: Jubei

LOL. That video is classic. You should add the video in which Ballmer promotes that wannabee HTC TouchFlo phone... it ain't got no keyboard either! What a joke.

Dec 14, 07 - 03:27 pm Comment from: shen

"I love how he seems visibly uncomfortable in that interview."

ummm, i hate to break it to you, but that is just Balmer. he ALWAYS looks visibly uncomfortable. he is clearly not at home with himself....

reminds me of the "Mac test" by some author of photoshop books. he said that if the person walking up to him in the workshop seemed comfortable in their own skin, 90% of the time they were Mac users. if they had a pocket protector or seemed generally uncomfortable, bad posture, dorky looking, most of the time they were windows users.

Balmer is the mold for windows users. he and Billy both. it is like they spawned the zombie world that is windows users in an evil and disgusting orgy like ritual....

....sorry for the mental image. wink

Dec 14, 07 - 03:41 pm Comment from: TB2



"You can get a Motorola Q for $99. It'll do email, it'll internet, it'll do music."

And does them all poorly. That's what they don't understand. Still selling features and not benefits.

Dec 14, 07 - 04:07 pm Comment from: macCesar

Hey guys did you see the video from the 'Late Late Show' with Craig Ferguson about the iPhone!!!.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyuDAzzKnz8

It is soooo Funny!!!!

Dec 14, 07 - 05:55 pm Comment from: Krioni

I have a theory about the poster using the nickname "Realist." Remember how, before username registration was possible, sometimes Zune Tang would post something really clever, and sometimes really just stupid? It seems the less clever one didn't register the username in time.

Dec 14, 07 - 07:09 pm Comment from: Kit-N

"Windows Mobile smartphones"

There's just something too disturbing about the words "Windows" and "smart…" appearing in the same sentence.

It gives me the willies.

Dec 14, 07 - 08:13 pm Comment from: Ampar

"It gives me the willies."

And it's time to free the willies.

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