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Apple iPhone owners risk being turned into incredibly annoying know-it-alls
Sunday, March 23, 2008 - 03:04 PM EDT

"When she whipped out her iPhone, Erica Sadum could feel her husband's eyes roll. But she had a point to prove. And in less than a minute, she was able to report to the skeptics around the dinner table that Menno Simons, whose followers are known as Mennonites, was in fact born in 1496," Michelle Quinn reports for The Los Angeles Times.

Quinn reports, "Apple Inc.'s iPhone, which went on sale nine months ago, isn't the only so-called smart phone that provides itinerant access to the Web. But its wide screen and top-quality browser make it easy to use and read, which means it can in seconds change a lighthearted conversation into the Pursuit of Truth."

Quinn reports, "'It's turned me from a really annoying know-it-all into an incredibly annoying know-it-all, with the Internet to back me up,' said Sadum, a technology writer in Denver. '"It's not a social advantage.'"

Full article here.

[Thanks to MacDailyNews Readers "Jedicid," "ChicagoPhotoGuy," and "MacVicta" for the heads up.]

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Mar 23, 08 - 03:32 pm Comment from: coolfactor

I disagree. What a negative view on the subject. How about "The iPhone helps us to further connect with the information we think we know, but wish to confirm"?

lol.

Mar 23, 08 - 03:32 pm Comment from: Swordmaker

OK

Non-iPhone users prefer to remain incredibly ignorant know-nothings

There, fixed it.

Mar 23, 08 - 03:37 pm Comment from: Jubei

Looks like these writers are trolling for hits by being controversial. In my experience just about everyone was glad I can get the info I need or they need on the spot with the iPhone. NO one was jealous. NO one was feeling small. All were pretty impressed and wanted to have one themselves. This is just another idiotic piece of journalism.

Mar 23, 08 - 03:41 pm Comment from: Reclaimer

I don't care what any one of them say. I love my Apple products and that's the way it's gonna stay.

Mar 23, 08 - 03:45 pm Comment from: Ampar

Scheduler and Afib are incredibly annoying know-it-alls. I wonder if the iPhone is the secret to their douchebaggery?

Mar 23, 08 - 03:52 pm Comment from: lee

Sadum? Doubt it. Erica Sadun, more likely.

Mar 23, 08 - 04:03 pm Comment from: Artist

I can see this as a real issue. Telephones were just fine when we had nothing but land lines, but now everybody has cell phones, and it really has changed society. There so so many rude people talking in places where they shouldn't (cars, grocery stores, etc..) not to mention that we are on call for work 24/7.
The internet is maybe the best invention ever, but taking that instant knowledge from the desktop to the palm of your hand will create it own set of annoyances.

Mar 23, 08 - 04:04 pm Comment from: mugwump

This was on the LA Times front page yesterday. If she's quoting Will Shipley, then she's a mac dork, too.

Mar 23, 08 - 04:22 pm Comment from: justified

Whipping out your iPhone to fact check over dinner conversation is indeed somewhat douchey, yet, it's no more douchey than whipping out your Blackberry or whatever else you might have had on and.

But more to the point, if you whipped out your iPhone at dinner and your husband rolled his eyes (you could feel that?), you didn't choose the wrong smartphone. You chose the wrong husband.

Mar 23, 08 - 04:29 pm Comment from: doubletrouble

This happened recently.

Shortly after turning into my subdivision on Saturday morning, I found a young man in the road ahead frantically waving his arms in distress. I stopped to see what concerns he had and rolled down my car window.

With high anxiety showing, he begged, "Mister, I need to get to a telephone! My car broke down about a half mile back and I need to get some help! I've tried six or seven of these houses and nobody will allow me to use their telephones! Will you help me?"

The young mad looked decent enough, certainly frantic enough.

Rain threatened, a drizzle already upon us. I suggested he get in my car, that perhaps I could find a way to be helpful.

The young man seemed mission-oriented. "Immediately, once seated, he asked, "My cellphone lost its charge. Can you take me to a service station, some place where I might use a public telephone? I have a friend who will come get me."

I asked, "Can you tell your friend where to find you?"

"Well, yeah... Uh, where am I?" Suddenly, he seemed even more lost.

I asked again, "Where is your friend located now? What's his address?"

He told me enough about his friend. I pulled out my iPhone and found where his friend was located. Then I showed him where he was located, even the route his friend might take to find him. Then I asked, "Now are you ready to talk to your friend?"

With a somewhat dumbfounded look about him, he nodded his head in agreement. I fingered my iPhone's dialing panel for him and then handed the iPhone to him while suggesting, "Just punch in his number and listen in."

Within moments, he had his pal en route to pick him up. Then he sat there looking at the iPhone for seconds, until I put my hand out for it. He didn't want to give it up but he did, asking, "What the heck is that thing?"

I explained enough and asked, "Any one else you need to call?"

"Can I call my boss? I need to tell him I'll be a few minutes late."

Twenty minutes later, that young man stepped smartly into his pal's car and they left. I'd managed to keep him dry enough so that he didn't need a change of clothes before going on to his workplace.

Could that young man I helped now consider me to be a know-it-all?

Mar 23, 08 - 04:36 pm Comment from: R

Cool, doubletrouble. Iphone samaritanism.

Mar 23, 08 - 04:52 pm Comment from: Ampar

To doubletrouble:
He probably thinks you were an alien transported here with 23rd century technology. Nice story. And great karma.

Mar 23, 08 - 05:34 pm Comment from: Afib

"Scheduler and Afib are incredibly annoying know-it-alls. I wonder if the iPhone is the secret to their douchebaggery?"

Wow, Ampar, I really made an impression on you, huh? I hope that I haunt your thoughts and subconscious of every minute of every day.

Mar 23, 08 - 05:39 pm Comment from: Ampar

Afib: I accept your apology. Thanks for that.

Mar 23, 08 - 05:41 pm Comment from: Afib

Ampar, explain this 'karma" thing to me. How does it work? Where did you gain such profuound enlightenment?

Mar 23, 08 - 05:43 pm Comment from: Arawan

Can understand this article from firsthand experience....

One day two weeks ago, a group of us are at lunch. One in the group seems to have a story for every subject. That day someone mentioned Warren Buffet, and this guy pops up saying that Warren and Jimmy are brothers!!

Well, I called foul, and before a second past had my iPhone out googling Warren Buffet. Within five minutes we were giving this guy a hard time about how DNA testing had shown the two were no way related....

Now the real funny part is that I am a consultant and all the other members of this lunch crowd are all higher ups with a phone company. They are now preparing to switch to iPhones!!!!

Mar 23, 08 - 05:43 pm Comment from: Afib

I didn't apologize to you, Ampar. Maybe you can upgrade than karma thing for some bona fide reading comprehension.

Mar 23, 08 - 06:15 pm Comment from: Mr. Reeee

How about:

"iPhone users become Google-Jedi"

Mar 23, 08 - 06:29 pm Comment from: @Afib

Sarcasm can be difficult to pick up when it's in writing, but this shouldn't have been one of those times. wink

Mar 23, 08 - 06:37 pm Comment from: ken1w

A true "incredibly annoying know-it-all" would be able to quote those facts without accessing the Internet. What's the point of being able to be incredibly annoying with obscure facts if any moron with an iPhone can do it...?

Mar 23, 08 - 06:50 pm Comment from: NGC598

Does this mean more writers can buy iPhone and fact check subject matter for their articles BEFORE the people with IPHONES fact check it for them?

Does this mean more truth in papers, magazines, and less bias or factually erred articles?

Does this mean the world is once again changed?

Does this mean I can leave out "Does this mean?"

Change is good.... for us! Maybe not for tech columnist.

wink

Mar 23, 08 - 08:02 pm Comment from: Dan

It's a problem. I do it and I think it annoys people.

Mar 23, 08 - 08:04 pm Comment from: Woody

This is totally true -- it's happened to me. I try to be much more careful now, and actually have had to just learn to let stuff go, rather than risk being an "incredibly annoying know-it-all."

On the other hand, sometimes iPhone-less people say, "Hey, get out your iPhone and looks something up for me." The other night, we spent a couple of hours at a family gathering looking up film trivia on IMDb. Now on my list of must-see films: The Monster and the Stripper.

Mar 23, 08 - 08:43 pm Comment from: Macromancer

Whenever I try to look something up on my iPhone I find myself having to return to the conversation that was 10 minutes ago since it takes that much time using ATT's horrid EDGE network to load any webpage.

Mar 23, 08 - 09:04 pm Comment from: amyhre

No doubt the Zune phone will be a huge social advantage. How much more advantage could you possibly get than a phone combined with own music player that just welcomes you to the social? Just wait until 2012 and you too will be able to buy one. It even comes loaded with every Star Wars soundtrack, the Star Wars movies and your own Dungeons & Dragons Dungeonmaster rulebook in .pdf format. If you want, you can even download software from the Zune Store using points including: Solitaire, Minesweeper, Hearts, Pinball and a 12-sided or 20-sided dice random number generator. Welcome to the social, indeed. Suck it, Apple.*

*sarcasm free of charge.

Mar 23, 08 - 09:11 pm Comment from: Anonymous©

You know, it's all about the social context. When people need info, the iPhone is great. When people are being challenged, then it's not so great. I mean, say you are on a date with a beautiful woman. She says something that is cringe-worthy in its wrongness. Pre-iPhone, you say nothing and accept it as the cost of... you know what. Post-iPhone, well, only a true dork would pull out an iPhone to challenge something their dinner date said.

Here's an analogy. In college, a good friend, Dawn, was complaining about a recent dinner date. The date, an engineering student had taken Dawn to the nicest restaurant in Baltimore, Tio Pepe's. Anyway, the engineer had critiqued Dawn's way of putting her fork in her mouth. Of course, Dawn, who was an expert at putting things in her mouth was not at all happy about the critique, and walked out on her dinner date. The moral of the story is to NEVER critique a woman about how she puts things in her mouth!

Mar 23, 08 - 09:59 pm Comment from: Mo

Hey Ampar, do you read Christopher Moore? Douchebaggery is right up there with fucktard. Unless you are Christopher Moore...

Mar 23, 08 - 11:30 pm Comment from: Always Right

I DO know it all.

Mar 23, 08 - 11:32 pm Comment from: Always Right

Seriously, I work in a sales environment where there is a lot of down time in the bullpen.

I am called upon at least half a dozen times a day to look up something on my "internet thingy".

Mar 23, 08 - 11:35 pm Comment from: TowerTone

"Apple iPhone owners risk being turned into incredibly annoying know-it-alls"

I knew that....

Mar 24, 08 - 12:18 am Comment from: ichi

@coolfactor

are you a PC user? wink you missed the point...

not to conform ourselves but to prove to those who doubt us --that is, those who doubt me.

(c1... it's always been love.)

Mar 24, 08 - 12:22 am Comment from: ichi

@ichi

that's "confirm", not "conform".

e.g., i will conform only when c1 confirms.

Mar 24, 08 - 01:11 am Comment from: iDon't

Huh? Does all this mean something?

Mar 24, 08 - 01:39 am Comment from: Slappy

@doubletree

Now that's the kind of real stories these writers should be posting. Great story.

Mar 24, 08 - 02:06 am Comment from: amyhre

I should have said in .doc format. Like hell would Microsoft be using .pdf by default.

Mar 24, 08 - 02:15 am Comment from: Mansur Nasim

If knowing truth is annoying then I better be annoying rather than believing someone idiot

Mar 24, 08 - 02:30 am Comment from: Apology accepted from all of us.

At last! A public apology from Afib to all of us here at MDN!

Now we just need one from the insufferable Scheduler and we are all set for a great year!

Mar 24, 08 - 02:36 am Comment from: iPhone guy

I was at a friends place and he is a dentist. He wanted a demo of what the iphone could do, so I hit location, then searched for dentists.
His office/home flag came up, I hit it and there was his phone number, web site etc.
Touched the telephone number and his phone started ringing.

He was amazed.

Another friend wanted to look at an ad for a car on Craigs List.
I found the ad, touched the phone number and passed the phone to him.
'Here, talk to the guy'.

Afterwards he said 'how did you do that?'

For those who havent used one, the iPhone is kinda like magic.

And yeah, we iPhoners know it all, baby.

Mar 24, 08 - 03:42 am Comment from: The Mac That Roared

Well, which would you rather be, a know-it-all or an opinionated dumbass?

Mar 24, 08 - 04:37 am Comment from: Arthur C Clarke

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

Mar 24, 08 - 07:29 am Comment from: MCCFR

Well, which would you rather be, a know-it-all or an opinionated dumbass?

Let's ask Rush Limbaugh.

Mar 24, 08 - 08:16 am Comment from: Rob

Ha, ha, ha, sounds like me, I do that constantly to shut up my friends who think that they know it all.

It feels good.

Mar 24, 08 - 08:19 am Comment from: Road Warrior (nli)

Next step the iPhone goes into a "told you so."

Having access to the internet is like having access to a huge library, and sometimes it really helps an intelligent conversation getting the proper fax.

I have had many a good conversation with a computer in the room so that we could access it. It doesn't stop the socialization process, it can enhance it.

After all, isn't this the information age, where information is indeed power and getting the facts straight are there to help us with our lives.

One thing I love about the net, is when you get these chain emails about this and that, and knowing some kewl sites where you can answer back and say "scam" or "out of date" or "total bs" if really shuts them up, or gets them to check stuff before sending it out.

Information at your fingertips. Use it.

Nice story about using the iPhone to assist someone. That is what is nice about a good portion of the world, having people help each other.

Mar 24, 08 - 08:30 am Comment from: FoF

Well, which would you rather be, a know-it-all or an opinionated dumbass?

"Let's ask Rush Limbaugh."

Yeah, I'll bet Rush has at least has dealt with some opinionated dumbass, he seems to know the Clintons.

Mar 24, 08 - 08:32 am Comment from: TJ

Artist: "... Telephones were just fine when we had nothing but land lines, but now everybody has cell phones... There so so many rude people talking in places where they shouldn't (cars, grocery stores, etc..)...taking that instant knowledge from the desktop to the palm of your hand will create it own set of annoyances."

I found that people who need to feel they are the center of attention have problems with other people talking on phones. Sounds like "Artist" is annoyed at cell users because they are not paying attention to what "Artist" wants. Get over yourself- I bet you get annoyed when two people are talking while shopping together at the store too. Are you just shamed that you don't have anyone who cares to talk to you?
Lets all have a day for good ole Artist. Next time you go shopping, DO NOT SPEAK TO ANYONE! Simply walk and listen to the canned music playing and to the sounds of the tuna cans bouncing around in the cart. It would make a perfect day for people like Artist.

Mar 24, 08 - 08:40 am Comment from: jtc

@doubletrouble

that man you helped in the pouring rain on his way to work.... did you ask him if he lived under a rock that he didn't know what an iphone was???

Mar 24, 08 - 08:53 am Comment from: Cubert

"Well, which would you rather be, a know-it-all or an opinionated dumbass?"

Give me an iPhone. I'd rather be a smartass than a dumbass any day!

Mar 24, 08 - 09:49 am Comment from: lurker

@Road Warrior - in your second paragraph you typed "proper fax". I'm sure you meant "proper facts". But that gives me the idea -
The iPhone is a personal facts machine. That seems pretty handy.

Mar 24, 08 - 10:05 am Comment from: January 24, 1984

I know some bullshitters. After whipping out the iPhone a few times, I happy to report the tone has quelled.

And that's satisfying.

Mar 24, 08 - 10:08 am Comment from: MacRaven

Anyone choosing an Apple product is already smarter than the average bear.

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