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For me, I'd be more reluctant to give it up just on principle...not because it is an iPod/iPhone. But I guess it's better to swallow your pride and live, eh?

This is why I carry a gun, so when they turn their backs I will just shoot them in the legs, take back my ipod, spit on them, kick them in the face and leave them there to bleed out

The way I see it, it costs a lot more to replace an internal organ than an iPod.

Maybe somebody can write an app that will make the iPod/iPhone burst into flames when the wrong password is used.

This is why Apple needs an iPod and iPhone registry.

When one gets stolen, Apple could brick it. Better yet, Apple could partially brick an iPhone, track the thief's movements, and help the cops zero in.

If the thief is actually stupid enough to take either to an Apple Store for service, arrest them.

Should make both decidedly less valuable for crooks, no?

Nah, just use the bricking part for current hardware.

New iPods and iPhones should be redesigned with blasting caps.
When one gets stolen, detonate it.

That'd be interesting in some punk's pocket! Bet they wouldn't do it twice.

@d'nomder

No...it just encourages the criminal to make sure the victim doesn't report that an iPod was among the stolen items, thus increasing the chance for fatal attacks.

Fortunately, in pre-Obama America, I can carry a concealed firearm just like the criminals can.

Post Obama...I assume a criminal frightened away by my firearm will charge me with a hate crime and I'll go to jail for 12 years.

@ Bill

Cool, so now they can take the gun as well, shoot you before they leave and leave you there to bleed out.

Wonderful! And now they have another weapon to use on the next victim!

"The way I see it, it costs a lot more to replace an internal organ than an iPod."

It's Canada, we have universal health care hahaha It will be free but it will take you 6-12 months to get your replacement organ.

The can have my iPhone when they pry my cold dead hand from it.

re: "Cool, so now they can take the gun as well, shoot you before they leave and leave you there to bleed out."

Maybe true in your case.

...... but not in the case of a trained adult who know how to to handle the typical teen-age dumbass who has "self esteem" that he did not earn.

Will translate that for you: what it means is that I have been on the earth far longer than they have and am more competent in the things that matter than the current generation of the "young"
I fear for them if things get tough, it will not be pretty for the "young."

I teach them every day,and most 13-30 year olds these days are stalled at about the 7th grade level in terms of competence and self-sufficiency. But hey, they got self-esteem coming out their ears. Don't have a clue about what to do with it, but.....

Have a nice day.

Nov 15, 08 - 02:47 pm Comment from: Macintosher

Surely this poses the question: why don't people keep their iPods hidden and change their earbuds? If they did that then NO-ONE WOULD KNOW THAT IT WAS AN iPOD! Duh! Whenever I'm out and about, I see those little grey-and-white earphones meaning: iPod. It's so darn obvious! No wonder muggers can - nearly always - get away with being idiots!

Actually, I don't follow that advice, for the reason that I only use my iPod in a CCTV-secured train, a busy but secure public place (e.g. a major train station or a shopping street with police on it) or in private.

Or, if you REALLY want to be safe, just use a Zune!

Nov 15, 08 - 03:26 pm Comment from: zmarc

A few months after the iPhone came out I had mine with me on a trip to New York City. I'm not a city person and I was quite concerned about getting mugged for it -- so much that was nearly afraid to use it in public.

But after being in NYC for a day, I forgot my fear. Why? Because *everyone* I saw had white ear buds and an iPod!!! They are just everywhere.

Doesn't mean you can't get mugged, but as long as you use common sense (i.e. stay in well-trafficked public places) and don't draw undue attention to yourself, there's no reason to be a target.

@Andrew

Yeah, I must have glossed over the location of it, but here in the states, it's something to keep in mind. Also, by 'cost' I meant more than just money. Hopefully, one day we here won't have to worry about that part.

Nov 15, 08 - 04:56 pm Comment from: Tommyr

Give up the freaking ipod, knives and bullets really hurt.

And if someone is foolish enough to try to steal your Zune you can squirt 'em!

Nov 15, 08 - 05:49 pm Comment from: BC Kelly

Stories like this always make me think of Jackson Browne's words of wisdom:


Everybody walks right by like they're safe or something

Gotta watch the street, keep your feet, and be on guard



From "The Boulevard"

Ashley Roberts had an iPod tucked in her pocket when three teens surrounded her in her Scarborough neighbourhood in Toronto

Sounds like a case for self-defense training. And some mace!

Nov 15, 08 - 07:12 pm Comment from: HMCIV

"...your life/health is irreplaceable"

Time Machine v2.5 should fix that.

MDN's take: "That's not how iPods work; if you sync to iTunes, you have a perfect backup. Just connect another iPod, authorize it, and load it with your "88 movies and 2,500 songs."

Good one MDN except many ipod owners have a larger collection than the capacity of current ipods. If you haven't got anything relevant to say then don't say anything

Nov 15, 08 - 08:20 pm Comment from: El Guapo

@Another stupid MDN take

Did you even think about what you were saying? Your logic only works if the thieves were to steal your home computer with the iTunes library on it and leave you with your iPod which can only hold a sub-set of your entire library.

Dolt!

(please pardon any typos, as this was typed on my iPhone and it's extremely difficult to go back and read a post before tapping submit)

@rwr
Why do stupid asses like you think that any of us give a crap about what you think. Pre-Post Obama...c'mon....he not even the frikken president yet.
STFU or I will steal your iPod...and your damn lunch money you jerk.

One time while working as a bank teller, I got robbed. He only got around $2300 out of me due to requirements to keep a low drawer total...but I gladly gave it up. The fact that he had a gun didn't affect me one way or another or make me any more nervous...I just knew what I had to do.

It was after he walked out the front door I was hoping he'd trip and fall into a puddle of AIDS.

do what i do. give them your ipod and when they start to walk away, shoot them in the back. take back your ipod

One time while working as a bank teller, I got robbed. He only got around $2300 out of me due to requirements to keep a low drawer total...but I gladly gave it up. The fact that he had a gun didn't affect me one way or another or make me any more nervous...I just knew what I had to do.

Didn't you also slip in a dye pack, which blew up in the parking lot making that $2300 worthless?

As posted above, Apple also needs a mechanism to make stolen iPods and iPhones worthless for thieves.

freak.

i'll stab yo ass and take the ipod.

No...it just encourages the criminal to make sure the victim doesn't report that an iPod was among the stolen items, thus increasing the chance for fatal attacks.

Maybe. Then again, systems like OnStar can track and brick stolen vehicles, yet I haven't seen any reports of increases in fatal car thefts.

Anyway, I can see high-dollar and easily-chopped items like vehicles driving thieves.
It'd take a real punk to risk getting imprisoned or killed over stealing a stupid iPod!!

El Stupido,

Ever think that some people want their whole collection in one ipod. Not everyone has the same tastes as you. But then again your life revolves around your self and no-one else counts. What a self-centered fool you are!

This article and most of its responses are in very poor taste.

People died. It's not funny.

If you would rather die than give up a $200 piece of electronic equipment, or even one worth $2000, or anything else you might be carrying, then you should seek help.

Nov 16, 08 - 04:18 am Comment from: Macjammer

As some of you have posted it is always about having a sense of your own personal security.

The number one rule to that really is being aware of your surroundings, even whilst you listen or watch your favourite tunes/movie.

When on public transportation what I do is as I listen to my music on my iPod is to also look at the ads placed around the carriage and keep my head moving around.

That way you look alert, aware and most likely spot someone or a group aiming to approach you.

Most snatchers are opportunists and thrive on having an element of surprise.

In public parks just keep looking around your environment, you're in a park plenty of stuff to look at other than ads oh and it is unlikely that a snatcher would sit behind a bush or tree waiting for an opportune moment as that would more likely draw attention to themselves from park officials such as the police. Also don't walk off paths into a secluded area on your own.

HTH

Nov 16, 08 - 04:41 am Comment from: goobi

Thankfully I live in India. Haven't heard of anyone being attacked for an iPod (Stolen unknowingly from your bag? Happens all the time!).

And are these people dumb? With iTunes, Apple has made it so easy to just replace your iPod (mainly cause they want to sell new iPods) that giving up the old one should just be the cost issue.

You make absolutely no valid point. What about most people having a larger collection than their iPod holds? All the media they lost with their iPod would still be on the computer, even if it isn't all the media they have on the computer. MDN's take still stands and your comment is just an invalid attack at something you don't seem to agree with the principal of.

Nov 16, 08 - 06:44 am Comment from: HMCIV

@Another stupid MDN take

Zune Tang®, is that you?

If you would rather die than give up a $200 piece of electronic equipment, or even one worth $2000, or anything else you might be carrying, then you should seek help.

It's not about money. It's about not letting yourself get pushed around in today's aggressive society.

If a mugger is truly whacked and would kill or cause serious harm over whatever you're carrying, give them what they want. That's not worth the fight.

But for instances where you're bullied, as the article appears to be, there's a case to be made for defending yourself.

Criminals, by nature, are lazy opportunists. They go for the easy targets. Priceless is when an amateur punk misjudges the situation, and finds their intended target isn't quite so easy!

Nov 16, 08 - 09:09 am Comment from: Essence

I think everyone's missing the point of this article. Apple's brand loyalty in the younger generation is, well, very high. If you're willing to give up your life for their products, is a little recession/depression going to stop you buying Apple gear?

Up Apple stock, up!

"If you would rather die than give up a $200 piece of electronic equipment, or even one worth $2000, or anything else you might be carrying, then you should seek help."

Maybe, but if we all just keep giving up to evil in society, we will just get more evil.

Those of you who disagree with that idea just have not experienced it yet.

Nov 16, 08 - 10:19 am Comment from: El Guapo

@Another stupid....

Didn't you read my first post? The only way for songs/movies to be on an iPod, is for the user to connect said device to the computer on which they reside. If said device gets stolen, the songs/movies ARE STILL ON THE COMPUTER!

Double-dolt!

Nov 16, 08 - 11:19 am Comment from: Ugh.

These incidents are isolated. More people are mugged for money than they are for iPods. That's just a common sense fact.

This is why I ignore the "news" and "newspapers". They are specifically designed to scare people and keep them living in fear. Not me. I refuse to be controlled by the "infotainment" of misery and suffering.

When I die, my future is laid out for me.

Another crap MDN post. Think I'll print it out. I need something to wipe with.

How many kids were stabbed for their Air Jordan tennis shoes when they were introduced? No news here, jealousy has always been a factor in crime.

Seems to me like this is just one in a long and ever growing list of reasons for the right to legally carry a concealed weapon.

Seems to me like this is just one in a long and ever growing list of reasons for the right to legally carry a concealed weapon.

If you need to carry a weapon, get some training. GOOD training. The kind the cops and armed forces have.

Shooting at paper targets isn't "training" either. You'll want training in situation control, ideally through both a simulator and in-person experience.

Anything less only increases your chances of getting killed, or finding your weapon stuck in an uncomfortable orifice....

Nov 16, 08 - 03:42 pm Comment from: Cubert

I strongly believe in fighting back. These punks need to know that they need to at least think twice before they do something - weapon or not. A few getting the $#!T beat out of them and/or getting shot/stabbed with their own weapon oughta do it.

Good advice from the guy who cant think of his own handle. The handling of weapons with live fire experience should be manditory for all school age children. Not only to teach respect but to also establish familiarity. The first experience should not be from a video game or "the Hood".

MacDailyNews Take: This is not a new story, but it bears repeating a bit of advice: Give up your iPod if threatened by a criminal; your life/health is irreplaceable.

EXACTLY!!!

If you've ever seen a 'real gore' sight, getting stabbed in the throat will give you nightmares just seeing it happen to someone else.
THIS IS NOT TV!!!! Should remind people to be safe and aware.

" The handling of weapons with live fire experience should be manditory for all school age children"

If I ever wonder what is wrong with the world today, I just have to read these stupid comments in MDN.....sheeeesh

hey...why stop at guns. Why not give them knife training while we are at it. Also first aid on how to stop bleeding from bullet holes, or sutures from lacerations.

Nov 17, 08 - 12:36 am Comment from: El Guapo

@Another stupid MDN take
El Stupido

Oh, and one more thing. That would be "El Estúpido"

¡El Dolto!

Moron.

Buster,

Everyone should know how to safely handle firearms and provide first aid. However, I doubt that many persons older than 18 years of age are knowledgeable. It's called the wussification of America. Shame, really.

@kzcvbkjzvd

It was the 'all school ages' that got to me. Visions of 8 year old boys and girls shooting a firearm is wrong in my opinion (and yes right or wrong it is just an opinion).

I do agree with you however that at all ages, first aid should be taught.

Back in the forties, fifties and early sixties many, many schools had gun/rifle clubs... often taught or overseen by police or military personnel, and gun safety was a priority.

And... I have never read or heard of an instance where any young person was killed or injured at these gun club activities.

P.S. FWIW, I don't a firearm, nor have I ever used one.