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Jun 28, 08 - 08:38 am Comment from: MaLvado

And in another 15 months the mainstream media will catch on that MDN is pretty darn good, eh?

Apple killed the album.

Seems only right that Apple raise it from the dead as well.

Jun 28, 08 - 08:41 am Comment from: BiZarRo BaLlmEr

Actually, I thought it was obvious except to one person, that author. Way to be on top of things.

Tha carter 3 is the best album alive

Actually the artists and labels killed the album first by putting out such crap they call music. Who wants to pay $10 - $15 for a CD that has one or two decent tracks.

Napster and the others like them put an additional nail in the coffin.

Apple, with the first successful mass electronic distribution saved music and helped to usher in a radical change that the music industry still tries to push against.

I can't believe MDN republished that bulls**t diatribe again after we all gave it so much flak 15 months ago.

The fact is, many albums are worth buying the whole thing. Albums are often meant to be kept intact (see "Concept Album", including Green Day's American Idiot album). Often people like all the music by one artist, and you want to test something out first. Or you are sent something, you listen to it, you like it, and you want to hear the rest of it.

Not everybody is a clone of MDN, running around with a library with three or four songs per artist and a million artists. I have 1.7 days of U2 music, 1.2 days of Bruce Springsteen, etc. on my iTunes; having something like Complete My Album helps. Ranting against it only risks giving it bad PR and making album pull the feature; why the hell would you want that?

Jun 28, 08 - 11:20 am Comment from: Spark

Of course it's a marketing tool, but a relatively benign one. It's easy to ignore, and there are, in fact, times when you might want to complete an album.

Jun 28, 08 - 11:38 am Comment from: Not Bill

@MDM, Music artists do concerts. That is their core performance experience. A concert is a series of songs. People who want to bring the experience of artists' performance with them purchase an album; a collection of songs.

In my mind the post record company payola system is one where individual artists can perform and market. They will market an experience much like their live concerts. They will market collections of songs; albums.

Jun 28, 08 - 01:09 pm Comment from: Brau

It is designed to appeal to the devoted audiophile, making it easier and more convenient to get the complete works of their favourite artist. Of course it's a marketing tool ... duh ... but there still exists a desire to hear an entire album to experience the artist better. The NYT seems a bit slow on this one!

Jun 28, 08 - 01:34 pm Comment from: DRM sucks

"Take Lil Wayne's smash hit 'Tha Carter III.' In a rare move, Universal Motown made six songs available for download in the months prior to the album's release, a full one-third of the 18 tracks included on the final iTunes version of the album... Fifty-two percent of the album's sales on iTunes came through Apple's Complete My Album function," Reuters/Billboard reports."

Marketing ploy? Sure. But that isn't a bad thing. This is an example of someone actually thinking about how to leverage digital download stores. We have heard plenty from technophobes about how downloading has foiling their time honored methods (releasing singles at a certain time, getting airplay at a certain time, restricting access until the "drop date"). Releasing a third of the album early can probably achieve the same sort of excitement. It could encourage having more solid tracks since if an artist releases 4 songs and only 1 is any good, the rest of the album will not sell well.

At least give some credit for trying to adapt rather than bitching about how downloads are evil because they are counter to the old way. Advertising and marketing are part of having commercial products.

can you say 'duh'?

Who is Lil Wayne and why will anyone care about him 2 years from now? Give me a break.

So, if the 45rpm contained the hit single, and you flip it over and get the "B side", you would still have to go purchase the LP for the rest of the tracks. You can't just bring in the 45 and have the record store credit you towards the LP. The "Complete My Album" feature makes it easier and tempting for people to collect the LP, rather than a bunch of 45's, especially in today's a-la-carte music market.

It's talentless rappers like that fool Lil Wayne, who are a dime a dozen nowadays, that are the reason that album sales have tanked, it has nothing to do with Apple.

Those rappers are all the same. They all use the same old tired formula. Rip off some music from another hit song, rap a few rhymes using endless expletives in a monotone often flat voice. Then get a real singer that actually has talent as a 'feature' artist to sing the chorus. Finally, for the video get as many young hot women as you can in bikinis to writhe around to the noise. (Kanye West is the best example). If these rappers had to rely on just their own talent then rap would have died years ago.

Another thing, how the hell does Timberland get so much kudos for sitting in a production booth twiddling with some knobs? He's just about as bad as those clowns that scratch a record back and forth twiddling with switches thinking that they are actually producing music.

Real musicians, often have a hand in writing the lyrics and music, play instruments, and most important can actually sing.

Anything else is just manufactured crap that requires very little talent.

Jun 28, 08 - 09:18 pm Comment from: Macromancer

He gets the NSS award for the week.

"Take Lil Wayne's smash hit 'Tha Carter III.' In a rare move, Universal Motown made six songs available for download in the months prior to the album's release, a full one-third of the 18 tracks included on the final iTunes version of the album... "

Who the hell needs 18 songs on an album anyway?!? You'll be lucky to find (AT MOST) 2 or 3 decent songs that you'd want to listen to more than once.

Jun 30, 08 - 07:58 am Comment from: shen

"The fact is, many albums are worth buying the whole thing. Albums are often meant to be kept intact (see "Concept Album", including Green Day's American Idiot album). Often people like all the music by one artist, and you want to test something out first. Or you are sent something, you listen to it, you like it, and you want to hear the rest of it."

and after you remove the 15 good concept albums, that only leaves the 4000 or so albums that MDN is talking about. sorry 4000 *per week.*

....but thanks for making a case for albums based on less than .01% of the albums made! logic for dummies strikes again!

Jun 30, 08 - 08:42 am Comment from: ElderNorm

Ranting aside........

"Complete my album" is a great tool. And good tools are useful.

If I buy 4-5 songs from an album and I decide that I like the music more that I initially thought, I can get the rest of the songs at a cheaper price,...... or I can continue to buy just the ones I like.

NO LOCK in just features. iTunes, .... just the way I like it.

PS. MDN, you do tend to get on a rant every now and then.... Course you tend to be right a lot too.

Just a thought.

en

Jun 30, 08 - 03:28 pm Comment from: maclife

@ReUnson & Funky Chicken
The discussion here is about iTunes marketing not whether or
not you like rap or the artist Lil' Wayne. The man is talented
for the millions around the world who listen to rap/hip hop.
The album the Carter III has sold 1 million + units in a week,
something very few other artist across many other genres have
been able to do in some time. The fact that pre-released tracks were available via Apple iTunes before the official launch increased buzz for the album and subsequently increased repeat sales once the full album dropped. Digital downloads have become the platform of choice for consumers - easy, cheap & fast, however never take any artist for granted as the internet is still evolving and it is a direct conduit into the home - likely negating the need for labels completely. Artist must continue offering value, hence the large number of tracks & fans love it. A hot album will prompt larger concert ticket sales, where the artist makes most of their money.