MacDailyNews - Where Mac news comes first

Whew. Now life can go on.

Apple is really starting to shaft the educational market. The EDU price for 10.5 is only $3 cheaper than the regular box... I remember the days when the EDU OS X would cost $69... So this marks the loss of the EDU discount on iPods and now software... Too bad.

Why 6pm? Now I have to drive in traffic from Huntley to Woodfield, then come home to booze and install it.
It'll be a long night.

Where are the amazing secret features?

@applekoolaid.com

They are probably phasing it out because too many people are taking advantage of the edu discount who aren't a students or staff of edu places.

Already ordered. I'll receive it on Oct. 26th.

Let's get the party started!!!!

No special event? :(

Let's hope it's not the latest dev seed that went gold. That would be bad. Usuaully the devs get the gold seed.

applekoolaid.com: I noticed the education pricing change, too, and share your pain. The difference is actually $13, not $3. But, the difference in education pricing in the past was a significant $60.

{tear} I'm so happy!

I have buying a 5-license version for my desktop and laptop.

Let me fix what I wrote --- I hate having to buy a 5-license version for my two computers --- a desktop and laptop.

iSteve
Better than two separate copies. What's to gripe about!

OK, I understand why they did the 6 PM deal with iPhone.........
Does this mean that there will be some type of registration, download/update, or some new feature that they don't want to overwhelm the servers with.......like rentals?

I just ordered my copy...
Canada

They could not come up with anything better than "Add a new Mac to your Mac".

I hope some new ads are on the way to entice people to switch. With Vista's issues, it would be a perfect time to pounce.

does this mean that if i order a mac on or after oct. 26 that it will come with leopard installed?

@ applekoolaid.com
I totally agree with you. I am really getting worried about what Apple is becoming! cocky about lots of things. Interesting. is MS their model now??

The education discount price ($116) is now a joke. It used to be $69.

My computer became a little snappier after hearing the news.

"They could not come up with anything better than "Add a new Mac to your Mac". "

That makes it a double Mac...with a little cheese.
And McDonalds all have Wi-Fi......
Coincidence?
I hope so.

Yah the education dicount is a small bummer oh well gonna get it anyway. Though that is a preorder price maybe once its out the education dicount price will be back to normal. It's a thought anyway.

I am glad they got rid of the default GREEN desktop background.

"Though that is a preorder price maybe once its out the education dicount price will be back to normal."

You're probably right. Apple has a history of setting the initial price high and lowering it once all the fanboys have brought.

I was just checking out all the new 300 features:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html

I notice that Address Book will sync with the Yahoo! address book and Google's GMail isn't mentioned. It's interesting that they're adding support for syncing that doesn't involve their own .Mac service but I thought Google may at least have been included.

While my wife is a teacher and we qualiry for the education discount, the odering process is flawed as anyone can say they teach for a school and get the discount. Heck, you only have to say you home school and get the discount. I found that kind of odd. I do believe people have taken this discount when they don't deserve it.

It doesn't bother me going away as long as they fix. Make people prove it somehow.

Wow. Leopard. I'm scared.

What I don't get is why does Apple go through the trouble to schedule a date and time for this crap. Nobody is going to show up so Apple can simply litter the shelves of their retail stores for snobby gay people with their "OS" quietly and without the embarrassment of scheduling a party which no one will attend.

This is a bold move especially considering the massive runaway success of Microsoft's Vista launch. I still have a warm feeling from the pleasant camaraderie experienced in the line to get Vista. Hordes of super cool Windows users talking about what matters: saving money and playing games. What a night.

Your potential. Our passion.™

MDN word: month, as in The lack of interest in Leopard will force Apple to close its doors in a month.

To all of you whiners complaining about the educational price:

1) How many of you are legitimate edu customers, and how many of you just want to pay less?

2) What is Microsoft's price for Vista Ultimate to the educational community? Yeah, I thought so...

Just got off the phone with the Apple Store. I guess refurbished macs don't qualify for the Leopard upgrade. That stinks. The woman I spoke to also insisted that I needed 2 gigs of ram to run leopard. Even after I gave her the address to the tech specs page for Leopard, she still insisted that I needed 2 gigs and 1 gig wasn't enough. Oy vey.

If Mac OS X had all the features of Vista Ultimate, it might be fair to claim that everybody was getting the "Ultimate" version.

Ultimate version of Mac OS X maybe. As once Steve finishes migrating you all, the next version will be Mac OS XI Vista.

I like how each new screen saver is counted individually as one of the 300+ "new" features.

Maybe the screen savers are part of the top secret features?? I haven't seen them mentioned on the rumor sites or touted in the dev. builds...

"That makes it a double Mac...with a little cheese.
And McDonalds all have Wi-Fi......"

Well, bustin' bustiers, let's not forget the scare they caused when overweight crossdressers heard they were removing trans fat from their restaurants.

I'm EDU and they have been screwing us more and more. I frankly think it friggin sucks. They should ship all orders to your school if they are that worried about it.

I'll steal it before I pay the full price. I want my $60 education discount!

If you check the institutional purchase price at the Apple Education Store you will see that it is still $69.

Yet another example on how the Apple retail stores are quickly becoming "Just another store"

They need to stop hiring "Shirt Folders" and get back to hiring passionate Mac users.

"I'll steal it before I pay the full price."

Good plan. Then you'll fully qualify for the prison discount. The Install DVD makes a nice shiv.

bah, i want the home edition !

I was in Montreal Apple store last month and I knew about Macs more than the sales guy.

nice scrollbars

@MSUBob Whew... that's smart I think they ship it to the schools .. It scared me for a moment when I saw the price of Leo Server double at the EDU store.

"I was in Montreal Apple store last month and I knew about Macs more than the sales guy."

Most of the salespeople in mac stores are kids who don't know anything about the machines. The appleGENIUS is the person you want to talk to. But, the GENIUSES know as much or less then i do about the OS and or the machines.

Where are the secret features to leopard? these don't exist right?

Oh boy!

Time to get that big external hard drive for Time Machine!
Maybe a RAID drive would be best, just in case...

Will Time Machine work wirelessly with a hard drive attached to my Airport Extreme? if so, I hope it'll run on my old 1ghz TiBook. The MBP? No problem...

I've got no problem ponying-up the $129, but I should actually qualify for an educational discount, since I DO teach a real class.

$119 for student license?!?! WHOOPIE!!!

Whats the deal? I paid $79 bucks for Tiger with my student discount and it was delivered 4pm the day it came out.

MW: I've "been" had.

That stinks that they basically took away the education discount. I don't blame them since there are many people that don't qualify but lie about it. We actually do qualify.

However, I bought a Mac Book Pro with a purchase date of Oct 2 so I just ordered through the up to date program for $10.

Apple/Leopard web site not working on Safari or any other browser... hope it's not a preview of how well Leopard is working. Or not.

Find a friend who's company gets a corporate discount from Apple.

The corporate rate is 107.10 for a single license and 165.20 for 5 licenses.

Man, this is the first OS X release where I'd qualify for the educational discount and it's gone. Oh well, I'll be able to split the cost of the $199 family pack with people I'm living with.

"an enhanced Dictionary with Wikipedia built in, allowing users to access up to date information on virtually any subject in a snap"

YES! I've wanted this for a long time, I even sent in a feature request a while ago. I look things up on wikipedia a lot, and I thought it should be as easy as the dictionary feature.

MDN MW: Clear, as in, "the road is now clear for all those who were waiting for Leopard to buy a new mac! Expect to see massive mac sales this next quarter!"

Was just watching CNBC. They were talking with 3 analysts, discussing Tech outlooks and specifically Intel and PC shipments. Mark Haynes (CNBC host and NOT a tech-savvy guy) asked if Apple's announcement of Leopard shipping would affect PC shipments. When one analyst replied "no, Apple's good news will lift all boats", Mark Haynes paused and then replied "I don't know about that. I'm getting an Apple. I've seen enough Blue Screens Of Death to last a lifetime". Coming from an "average Joe" user like Mark Haynes, this is shocking. Made me smile, big time.

I bought my iMac in August. I want Leopard for free!!! I'll sue!!!!!

/heavy, dripping sarcasm

LOL... everyone gets Ultimate Version. Unlike the Windows suckers who bought 1 of the 7 different versions that MS tricked them into buying thinking each is unique, we get one price, one ultimate version. Hey Windows users, that unique feature was just watered down version of Vista Ultimate Stupidity.