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Me want!

Gimme gimme gimme...

That's really good.

I'd say that we'll see Macs with solid state drives before too long.

My God -- Apple's stock got hammered today. What happened?

20 seconds? That's not good. My Mac already boots up in about 20 seconds.

I've owned more Samsung 64GB solid state drives in my 50+ years than any of you 12-year-olds ever will.

This looks quite impressive IMO. I think I am going to wait and see what comes out at MacWorld 2008.

If this whole ultra-portable macbook is true then I will be first in line to buy one.

That's awesome. I'll bet that rumored "thin" MacBook will have solid state storage with no optical drive.

To be fair, he shouldn't start the stopwatch until the "bong" sound is heard. It's more like 15 seconds. But still, it's really not significantly faster than my mac mini (intel core duo) boots Leopard from its regular old stone age spinning magnetic platter hard drive. I've got a couple Vista machines, and if you need to boot one of those up, seriously, go get a cup of coffee, check the mail, pet the cat, and when you get back to your desk it *might* be ready for you to log in. Then once you do, go get the laundry out of the dryer and fold your clothes, because after you log in, you've got about 5 minutes of hard drive grinding and spinning blue rings to watch before you actually have a usable desktop.

Ha, my Mac has always booted in less than 15 seconds since 6 years ago.

I got a RAID 0 pair of 10,000 Raptors.

1: Use existing boot drive and Carbon Copy Cloner to clone to a Zeroed fresh external drive.

2: Option boot from the clone, repair permissions and install the Raptors making them a RAID 0. Zero the RAID set to elliminate bad sectors (you need speed and acurracy)

3: Clone the external to the new RAID set and reboot.

4: There is no step four. Just ZOOOM!!!

You get way more storage capacity too.

But a solid state drive is ideal. I've known people who maxed out the RAM in their MacPro and set up a RAM disk and installed a OS in there for REALLY REALLY fast speeds.

You see Apple doesn't want us to have all that speed. Or else we won't upgrade.

I certainly don't need a new Mac for the next 10-15 years. This thing is awesomly fast and it's 6 years old!!!

I got a RAID 0 pair of 10,000 Raptors.

Should read "I got a RAID 0 pair of 10,000 RPM Raptors."

HA! my 2004 PowerBook G4 loads in 23 seconds... with 80GB harddrive... EAT IT SUCKA!!!! EAT IT!!!!

maybe the market got miffed 'bout the new ads or something?

I got a RAID 0 pair of 10,000 Raptors

That's a lot of screamin' eagles!

Dame... my bad... i just timed my PowerBook... make that 1.23 :-(

> HA! my 2004 PowerBook G4 loads in 23 seconds... with 80GB harddrive... EAT IT SUCKA!!!! EAT IT!!!!

Try it with Leopard. That'll slow your G4 down... Hey, my 1987 Mac SE could boot System 6 in less than 20 seconds (from floppy disks). Woo...whooooo!

You apple stock fanboys aren't chortling so loudly now that the stock is 40 BUCKS! from it's high, are you? ARE you? I can't hear you!

heh. I'ma chortle anyways.

There is a GUI, wizard helping free Firewall called WaterRoof that works on the installed terminal accessable firewall in Mac OS X.

It can help you overcome the Mac OS X 512kbit limit for web surfing and set it closer to your actual bandwidth.

Just installed the boot up script and now my web pages load even faster.

You begin to realize certain sites load slower, because it's not your fault but theirs.

Also there is other things like Safari Speed and Pithhelmet to make sufing faster.

@Laura Goldman

I'll buy buy more of them now

> You apple stock fanboys aren't chortling so loudly now that the stock is 40 BUCKS! from it's high...

It's still 40 BUCKS ABOVE the price on the "sell" date. Isn't it???

fast and furious is spam

I want the 128GB for $6,000!!!

everyone selling their applestock is an idiot.. now is the time to BUY BUY BUY!!!!

analysts are fear mongering idiots... everyone is freaking out due to "bad" press from international iphone launches.. mucking forons! there is no "bad news" about their launches.. but writers, editors, and people are STUPID! so up and down the roller coaster goes..

iphone is so revolutionary that i cant even watch the movie in this page...

Yeah seriously, I'm getting the shakes. Where's Apples money going? I was thinking of buying in at 200 (didn't get that far) I realise it won't bomb out to zero but... buy now while cheap? The only way is up, baby?

My C64 boots up instantly

My 17" MacBook Pro (1st Gen, 100GB 7200rpm HD running Leopard) boots in 37 seconds. I will sacrifice 17s for the extra storage.

Yeah 20 seconds is quick, but my SE can boot up with System 7.5 with enough Extensions to fill up the entire 9" screen. It may take five minutes, but all those Extensions loading row after row is really cool. I should have at least 256 MB of RAM left even with Ram Doubler installed from Conectix. LOL

Does anyone know how much space these 64gb drives take up? If they are small enough, couldn't several of them be used together in a RAID to expand the amount of memory space solid state drive technology can give us.

Big hairy deal as someone use to say to me. Now what would be interesting is for someone who has jail-broken their Apple iPhone from a hardware standpoint and replaced the 8 GB's with 64 GB's. Anybody hear of such a thing? Please post a link.

I wasn't as clear as I had intended to be. I want bits about anyone replacing the Flash Drive of their Apple iPhone with a 64 GM Flash Drive. Now if this person had installed and booted from a flash drive on the MacBook Pro, this would be interesting.

Well, he does say it's a "first generation" MacBook Pro, but he doesn't specify the OS X version. But if 20 seconds is the best he can do, and others are reporting their own systems doing almost as well, either the Samsung drive is not notably faster than a disk drive, or disk speed is not the critical element in bootup times.

Note that an iPhone, also running an optimized version of OS X on a flash drive, boots in seconds. So something else is going on here.

Let me offer one more theory: His flash disk drive is utilizing the same IDE bus used by the original drive. If *that* bus is the chokepoint, a flash disk drive will need a better pipeline into the system to result in a notable improvement.

~ 24 sec on my MBp 17" at 7200rpm. And when he said 20 secs it was more like 22.

Who boots their Macs? I lift my Macbook's lid and I'm ready to go in one second.

Oh ok, I run YASU about once a month. That and the occasional software update give me the rare restart.

Ryan Block is just an idiot. Please do not generate free hits for them by linking to them.

I think them main advantage to a solid state drive would be the additional battery life.

My MacBook Pro SUCKS with Leopard! It takes 39s to get to the desktop/menubar, and 1m 15s to get to where I can actually do something.

It was a lot faster with Tiger.

"Fast and Furious

I got a RAID 0 pair of 10,000 Raptors.

Should read "I got a RAID 0 pair of 10,000 RPM Raptors.""

I am smitten by the idea of a home computer that commands an army of vicious carnivores.

I dont know wtf you guys are talkin about...I dont even remember the last time I rebooted...

Main question I have is what happens to the battery life with the SSD instead of the HD?

-jcr

"I'd say that we'll see Macs with solid state drives before too long"

Correct, since they were introduced in the PC world about 6 months ago, it shouldn't take Apple more than another year or two to get the same technology in a Mac.

Yea cause I want a 32GB ($413 newegg) of HD space.. I mean sure you can do 64GB ($2,014 newegg) but I mean who'd buy a $4000 Macbook Pro that starts up just a few seconds faster and has worse write speed?

My MBP ver 2.2 (2.33 Ghz, 2 GB RAM) loads up leopard in 34 sec from cold.
How is it with the rest of the crowd.

"I got a RAID 0 pair of 10,000 RPM Raptors."

Not on a laptop you don't. This is technology for portables, primarily.

I have a feeling if/when it offers a major advantage that outweighs the tradeoffs (who wants a laptop with a 64GB drive when they are all at least 120GB now?), Apple will include solid state drives in their laptops.

Remember, this company doesn't do things just because they are technologically cool or geek-drool-inducing, or because they can. (Witness lack of high-def DVD drives on Macs so far) They carefully select their features based on what will contribute to the holistic user experience.

Nov 22, 07 - 01:59 pm Comment from: jhoward

Will this SSD fit and work in my last generation 12" G4 Powerbook?

I think this is a mis-guided demo. What it should really be demonstrating is not the speed of a boot up but all the benefits of solid state. Thinner, cooler, faster, less power, and green. The idea of capacity will be worked out in 6 months time. Maybe they install 2 - 64GB drives? I don't think Apple would offer a lower drive product (laptop) to it's customers. -
My two cents...It's the future of laptop computing. Thank god - we can move out of the stone age.