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New generation of users, new generation of soft- and hardware. Apple is ready for it!

osx leopard 100% unix comlient, i would assume this to help the server market lots wouldnt it?

Oh get over it. I like Macs, but they're only computers, not a religion.

Looks like Yager's Microsoft-bribed bosses won't be happy with this. 2 out of 3 pages of advertising in Infoworld is from Microsoft.

Boy oh boy, let's hope this is the way it goes down, as it should - for the sake of AAPL.

Forward, my children. Let me just part these waters....

Gog.

You're wrong.

We've had many false tipping points in the past. I don't think we're seeing one now. I do think that 2007 will be a better year than '06, but I think the release of the iPod will be looked on as the accepted start of Apple's resurgence. Just as the iMac gets credit for Apple's recovery from near death. We'll see if the winners get to write this bit of tech history.

One thing I worry about with the new iPods is if Apple only does a "modest HD upgrade" instead of a radical new touchpad design.

Signs indicate that we may not see the "true video" iPod untll next year. I think analysts may tank the stock if this happens..

You missed the best bit out MDN...

"A helpful tip: In most communities, it is a violation of law to put your PC out to the curb. It contains lead, Windows XP, mercury and other toxic substances..."

Priceless!

Mac is more than a religion. It is a cult. The Cult of Mac.

Resistance is futile, Redmond. We're coming after you.

Here's hoping!

A 64 bit OS X 10.5 in a 64 bit Mac Pro, iMac, Xserve or MacBook Pro at 2/3's the price of the PC plus Windows 64 competition.

And guess what, the Macs have 64 bit compatible software with more coming from Adobe.

Microsoft and the PC makers are way behind the curve on this trend.

All we need now is a killer 64 bit consumer app.

Remains to be seen. If Apple doesn't renew its commitment to quality (there once was one), this opportunity will be lost and Vista, no matter how awful it is, will sweep the world.

Inferior machinery and poorly performing software = ordinary in the personal computer world. Results: Apple's share remains tiny and we long time loyalists get shafted.

I've been a Mac User for coming up on 3 years and before that I was a windows slave. I'll admit I wasn't early to the party but I'm glad I'm not late or worse yet that I didn't realise there was a party.

Gog.

You are very wrong.

And lets not discount Linux in all of this.

"It understands that Apple is a far bigger threat than Linux, which it is prepared to battle."

I personally feel that Linux and Mac are like siblings. Siblings that get along really well. I am happy to have Ubuntu on my Mac. But Linux users don't want "to do battle" with Apple, we want to live in harmony.

As we have.

But we would love to see Microsoft fade away.

As it slowly is.

All I want is for enough people to switch so that we don't get sidelined anymore. If everyone else wants to run Windows, Linux, or even some bizarre Amiga resurrection I really don't care.

Enough so we can't be ignored. That's all.

I see the Mac more as a force of nature, ever moving, ever present, and difficult to see the future events of.

Not going to happen. The average user knows nothing about Mac.

I had friends over for dinner the other night and showed them my new 20" iMac. Their first question was "can you go online and send email with your Mac?"

A friend of mine went to a novel conference last week. He noted that they were using MacBook and MacBook pro's to demo their stuff. The intel move has changed the rules fundamentally. What was the reason for buying a PC over a Mac in the past? Simple, there were vastly more Windows applications to choose from. Sure the Mac may have had best in class applications that made the windows users drool, but every one knew that autocad only ran on Windows as did 3 quarters of the games they saw in best buy. Sure most never used either of these, but the store shelves sold the computer. Outside of the apple store if you saw a program you liked it probably did not run on the Mac and if it did you probably had to mail order it at a premium price. A few Mac only programs may have peeked your interest but in the end the sheer volume overcame this.

Then came 2006 - Now what computer do you buy if you want to be able to run anything? The answer is simple - a Mac. Sure you may end up having to buy and install windows to run a program, but you can run it. In addition you can run all the Mac programs you used to drool over. If you do all your email and surfing on the Mac side you be come relatively impervious to viruses (you still have some limited exposure while running windows). Suddenly you discover something, other than for games you never use Windows. So you start writing the manufacturers and telling them that future versions need to be available for the Mac. Eventually you remove windows from your system to get more space for mac stuff.

Five years from now Apple will be at 30% market share and growing while PC manufacturers consolidate as more and more they discover they can't compete. Microsoft will still be huge, but will be concentrating on applications more and more, with the Mac being the primary platform.

All because Apple decided to make a computer that gives you the choice. We know that most people that try the Mac never go back.

FSCK YEAH!!!!!

If Apple doesn't renew its commitment to quality (there once was one),

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Huh? What are you talking about? Apple's quality rating is higher than it's ever been. Less than 5% failure rate on new hardware gives Apple the highest marks in the industry.

Of course, there have been some rev A problems with the new machines (there always is,) but part of a "commitment to quality" is fixing those problems and correcting them for future versions... and that's exactly what Apple is doing.

That Yager is a real tech Meister!


MW: Anorak

""Their first question was "can you go online and send email with your Mac?""

Sounds like you have some pretty dumb friends.

Teflon:

You did of course correct your 'innocent but ignorant' friends.

… and hopefully planted some seeds by giving them a tour… photobooth, for a laugh. Front row for some trailers. A quick check on some sport result, whatever on a widget or two. And of course a liberal use of expose etc.?

Shame on you if you didn't.

Welcome to the cult if you did!

I saw Microsoft falling into a complexity trap, when they failed to tear down their old non adaptive -- to the customers' needs -- operating system and build a first rate foundation for their business. At the same time, I witnessed a battered but wizened Steve Jobs take over at Apple, coming from NeXT. I was familiar and awed with what he created at NeXT, as I used to run a NextStep Intel box – yes, the grand daddy of OS X made the Intel transition over a decade ago. I knew immediately where the new Mac operating system was headed and that, if Apple could survive the transition, Apple would defeat Microsoft.

Jobs pulled off the OS X transition brilliantly and kept proving that he had lost none of his vision nor passion and that he gained the business skills that he had formerly lacked. I avoided selling my shares against the pressure of my wife – not too severe BTW – because I could see the upheaval that was to come. Steve Jobs put in place his chess pieces as Microsoft dithered and denied. And now with the Intel transition completed, Apple is starting their attack. It is like D-Day.

I am so sure of victory that I bet the biggest part of my life savings on it – in the form of AAPL stock. It is now worth about 12 times what I paid for it. I expect a lot more growth in the next few years. My only worry is the possibility – small, but not nil, of Steve not leading Apple anymore. The daily wiggles mean nothing to me until I start taking profits. I track the underlaying business and technical realities -- the fundamentals.

Peterson,

You need some new material.

As long as the higher ups have an effective plan B if/when Jobs exits, and avoid shenanigans with profits/stocks or cutting corners injurious to people or the planet, Apple will see awesome growth.

Long live S.P. Jobs!

No, Gog, it is a religion. High Priest Jobs will be preaching next Tuesday. The MDN Choir, led by Ampar, will be singing praises at the end of the ceremony, and the collection plate will be passed around for written contributions.

Kool-aid will be drank later. Don't forget your ceremonial white robe.

Brother Cubert

As long as I don't have to be an altar boy...

Teflon
Time to change friends
But serioulsly, that is the sad realty, a great mayority can not perceive a Mac in the same league as a PC. and that is going to stay like that for a long time

Peterson, you need to stop drinking the anti-kool-aid.

Teflon, I wouldn't brag about having friends that don't know Macs can do the internet. Afterall, iTunes is from Apple, and the iTMS is second only to amazon as the most visited internet commerce site on the web.

MDN, you forgot to end your commentary with "Muuaaaaahahah" ala Austin Powers Dr Evil.

Teflon and DBS,

One word: AppleStore

I agree the time frame of the change cited

in the blog is exaggerated, but the retail

strategy is working. People are walking into

Apple Stores, and they are finding out the

truth. Remember, 20% marketshare for Apple

is a major hit to others.

Let's all pray to Gog.

20% marketshare is enormous, Dell only has 29% marketshare and they are the largest PC vendor.

Build
A better
Mousetrap...

Wright beat me to it. Teflon, you may be correct, but you sure need a better class of friends. Or maybe you should have been betetr educating them all along.

MW: "some," as in some people do get it, and you need to get to know them.

Teflon, (""Their first question was "can you go online and send email with your Mac?"")

I don't believe that.

P.S.
Kill Gog.

I'm not Steve Jobs, but if I was Steve Jobs I would at the Showtime event on Tuesday, very quickly dangle another enticing piece of Leopard meat(feature) to the audience
to keep the media hype and speculation going. Then, just before Christmas, I would do it with another feature. Then unload the whole bag of goodies at the annual January event, along with iLife '07. Panther had what?...150 new features and Tiger had I think about 100 features. I know that the 10 Leopard items shown make up multiple features, but I, like everybody else, is expecting more.

Gog, the mere fact that you were on this site reading this article shows that you are just as much a mac fanatic as the rest of us. No, it is not a religion, but it does draw some interesting parallels. To windows users, it seems ludicrous that anyone could love a computer and be so fanatical about it, but what they don't realize is that there actually is something better out there. We just want them to find it too.

I'm sorry. It IS a religion.
I was a Catholic. Then a Unitarian Universalist.
Now ....
APPLE MACONTOSHALIST?
APPLEIT?
MACINTOSHONIAN?
MACONTOSHINITE? (I like that one)....

" . . . create mayhem in PC market."

Does this mean Tommy Lee will have to add an Apple logo to his tattoo?

yes, I know.
macIntosh

Modern life is overflowing with peddlars of mediocre products manufactured solely for the sake of profit. The world could use a little more of the Apple "religion" if you ask me.

Another potentially good thread gone down the drain..

MDN, why don't you make these discussions available to registered users only? It would eliminate so much nonsense.

" Bill Gates and Microsoft will be seen for what they really are/were: purveyors of mediocrity who retarded progress."

Applause + Whistles! How true.
The Mac faithful will have the last laugh. All we have said, and stood for is the truth. When all this is history we will be looked at as the wise ones who kept the faith as we watched horrified as others were led, forced or went willingly to the dark side. [Insert dramatic movie music here. ; ) ]

MDN word: "market" --will be ours again.

brainy

....cause it makes me laugh.


Did you know that Gog is Gog spelled backwards?

Usually Right:

We're actually "Macshugannahs"

"Mishugannah" = Yiddish for crazy!

Oy!

Brainy, you forgot to end your post with a "Harrumph" or "Humbug." Or, "Hey, you little monsters! GET OFF MY LAWN!"

If you leave, will that be a brainy drainy?
William F. Buckley, Jr. is probably waiting for your witty, intellectual repartee right now!