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Wonderful, because I heard that those coffee clatchs weren't working so well.

Absolutely disagree that the iPod halo effect never appeared. People experienced iTunes, and wondered why their other software couldn't work as well or why their hardware/OS couldn't work as well as iTunes/iPod does. If he thinks the halo effect should have been some massive, bursting dam flood of switchers, he was delusional. The real key was Apple switching to Intel, because now the price/performance myth could be easily busted.

Woo!!!

-d,d,d...

Windows Vista is the best thing to happen to Apple since the return of Steve Jobs.

Sorry Intel chips alone don't justify market share gains.

It does help Apple sell more hardware and compete equally with PC box assemblers.

Apple is solely involved with a Windows vs Mac OS X war now, with hardware sales bankrolling it.

Apple could do a lot if they could somehow slide their OS under the vast amount of Windows software so most if it runs nearly seamlessly under Mac OSX without Windows at all.

Or provide some sort of source code port software that would take a lot of time out of optimizing Windows code for Mac OS X for developers.

What's really bad is all these "options" for running Windows on Mac OS X has got me interested in running Windows just to take advantage of more software choices.

Oh GOD, I'm falling for the DARK SIDE!!

And the light turned on!

""There are several elements now combining into a perfect storm which could really accelerate Mac market share growth. The first is the momentum Apple and the Mac currently have. The second element is the innovations coming down the pike with Apple and iTunes and the iPod. And the third and most powerful element is clearly the iPhone," Frausto-Robledo writes."

DUH!! Suddenly people are beginning to think that this Apple thing is no flash in the pan. However, I think that some still believe that the Titannic will still come in to the dock. Any day now. After all, how could anything that big (read Microsoft) sink. ?????
LOL

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add some high end gfx card options (swopable?) and gfx card linking and ya might see more 3d artists come to mac, ( i already am, but in a minority) the software is there, its the hardware that puts them off, the mac pro is sooo ideal

Oh yea, Mac's still give you limited hardware choices and tend to cost more than PC's

When Apple goes all Glossy Screens like they did in the MB line and wind up hurting people's eyes, where will the vast majority find releif with Matte screens?

Yep, on the PC side.

You see, this is a serious problem with Apple, the forced changes that Apple knows what is right for you. Like we can't decide for ourselves if Matte screen or Glossy is best.

I can't buy a low cost Mac laptop now because the Glossy screens hurt my eyes.

Don't you just feel the hardware lockin closing in?

I must admit I don't like having to be forced to buy a expensive MacBook Pro to get a Matte screen.

Glossy screens just suck, I'm considering switching to PC's so I have more hardware choice.

Did you know for the price of a MBP I could have a Quad Core laptop with two hard drives?

Portable and powerful, sure battery life isn't the best. But most hook up to a powersource every chance they get anyway.

Quad cores make video production much faster.

Pastry Chef:
What the heck are you talking about? Apple is not "solely involved with a Windows vs Mac OS X war now, with hardware sales bankrolling it". That is absolutely ridiculous. Jobs himself has been saying for a decade that it is not necessary for MS to lose for Apple to win. He said it again at D5 last week. He has also stated quite clearly that they are not looking to take over the majority share of the OS market, rather to make compelling hardware and software. MS is not going anywhere for a long time. Neither are the other PC makers, on the hardware side. Apple is going forward with Apple's game, and no-one else's. Plus, outside of Apple themselves, MS is one (if not the ) biggest software dev for the Mac.

Glossy screens? Get over it.

to the last two trolls above. What you simpleton do not realize is that you can't run the best OS on the planet on those toy_computers_ only_good_to_blast_your_friends with FPS games. That crap quad-core you'll get, when running Windows will only get you a Piece of Crap. It is the software, stupid!

Stick those two hard drives where they belong when hosting Windwos: the sewer, rightly following the Zune you surely have bought.

Rhino? Sweeeeeeet!

Thanks, Robert!

Bob S - how much does Microsoft pay you to troll sites like this?

Stay with Windows - you don't deserve the benefits of Mac.

There are several elements now combining into a perfect storm <-- Now that's well put! A storm that sends chairs aflying.

And yet the moths keep hovering about the candle.

So, the halo effect is there but it isn't how it was initially described. People never considered a mac before but here is what happened. They got an iPod and liked it. They see the iPhone and think, "wow, that looks fantastic!" Now they think, "Maybe everything we have heard about Apple computers for years isn't true. Especially since our experiences with their other products has been so good." The switch to intel did help too. Now the mac isn't some odd ball system (Power PC) it is just the same as the main stream computer manufacturers. Here's to 10% US market share in a couple of years!!

Please do not try to develop you lousy application for OS X. I have had enough of your poorly conceived and thought-out product. You clearly have put only the barest of thoughts into your application.

If you do not have something that can compete with or be better than current OS X applications, please do not bother pooping in the playground.

I left Windows to get away from your dreck.

Wondering if anyone has thoughts on the following:

1) will apple sell the phone and allow customers to use it without activating cingular service? It would be a great ipod/web surfer even without cingular.

2) is the "hidden icon" for games? i bet it will come with some pre-loaded games

Need that sign posted again along side the comments:

     Don't feed the trolls. Please.

glossy screens hurt your eyes?
the screens are there because they are ideal for watching media (movies and tv shows).. which explains the widescreen..
The colors are sharp and the contrast is beautiful.



you sound like such a wimp. get a Gateway already.

"due to iPods alone" From what I saw on Apples Income statement the computer side side takes in 54% of sales. This includes software and hardware accessories. iPods were 46% including software and hardware accessories. So I don't think the iPod is helping out Apple as much as people think.

Not meaning to defend the trolls, but glossy screens on the MacBooks are a serious eye problem.

Something about the eyes trying to focus on two images at once.

Oh well. Guess companies just need to be sued.

I don't care whether it is a halo effect from the iPod, the iPhone, Apple TV, the switch to Intel, or the white Apple sticker on my car. As long as more and more people switch and more and more developers see the light, I'm happy with it.

@ "Pastry Chef" aka Microsoft Astroturfer: "Don't you just feel the hardware lockin closing in?"

We've read similar comments from your ilk for years, doesn't seem to be working so hot any more does it? With Mac making slow and steady market share gains, eating up the high end of the computer Market..

But don't worry, there'll be enough bargain bin PCs sold at Walmart to keep your astorturfing paid-for-by-Microsoft pockets filled for at least a few more good years.

Get lost.

"I'm considering switching to PC's so I have more hardware choice."

And what would be the difference between those, and how will your user experience differ, depending on which one you choose?

MMC™

"Not meaning to defend the trolls, but glossy screens on the MacBooks are a serious eye problem.

Something about the eyes trying to focus on two images at once."

And you know what? I use a Cintiq monitor at work, and a matte screen is no better, glare is glare, whether it is sharp or blurry. So let just cut all the BS about glossy vs matte.

Glossy screens are the future. Glossy screens are better. Get over it.

And One More Thing that absolutely begs to be said in a topic with a headline like this one: developers developers developers developers! Developers.

I've been looking forward to just such a stituation. I figure as market share increases, more developers would design for Apple.

Glossy screens hurt your eyes, huh?

How come no one complained about the millions of eMacs then?

I never heard a single complaint. But, then that's anecdotal isn't it?

BTW, my wife's best friend complemented my wife's eMac's screen. It was not faint praise or sarcasm, either. She didn't 'get' the notion that 'Apples' didn't use Windows, but she loved the screen. Oh, well.

Hey I love that statement. I bet George W. Bush picks that up for his next war: "We are considering invading Iran so our soldiers have more killing choice."

Back on Topic:

This guy gives three reasons why Mac market growth will continue to accelerate and one of them is NOT Leopard?!?!?

Both techno-geeks as well as the average Joe will be very impressed with Leopard - my humble opinion.


MW = "hell"??? I $h!t you not!!!

Uhhhh, MDN, do you know something I don't?

iPod "Halo effect" is just one of many things driving Apple's growth. By far the greatest is the Apple Stores. Anyone remember what Mac retailing used to be like? Two or three dusty previous model Macs at the back of the computer store, showing nothing but a blank desktop mostly. No TV advertising either. And then we wondered why so many people thought you couldn't do anything on them?

These days you see Macs on the 'Net, Macs making video, Macs iChatting, Macs creating music, even Macs using MS-Word. Apple realised that they couldn't rely on their customers finding them. They had to actually try and sell the machines.

All the resellers have had to smarten their act too. More software on sale, up to date models, and all in decent well-lit surroundings.

No wonder sales are increasing. Finally the machines are being marketed properly.

Iran has stated multiple times that they wish to obliterate Israel. They have stated multiple times that they will obtain nuclear weapons. They have stated again, multiple times, that they have no fear of acting even if it means the destruction of their entire state. The Islamic cult of the 12th imam drives their thinking.

Iran funds Hezbollah, the terrorist outfit that murdered 200+ U.S. Marines in Beruit, and funds various Iraqi terror groups that have killed soldiers from the coalition of the willing. Hezbollah also murders Israeli citizens. In short, Iran is a threat.

I can only presume that you typed before your brain came on line.

I've often said that getting more developers on the mac is key to growing mac market share. I still have to have a windows pc to support current games I enjoy playing. More developers need to take the lead of companies like Blizzard and producing mac versions that are released at the same time as the windows version. And a very good point was brought up that Apple needs to support more video cards options in their hardware, configurations that can push games and real 3d rendering.
I hope this happens soon, with Leopard features to encourage this.

How come no one is interested in the original story? For heavens sake, Rhino is being coded for OSX for crying out loud! This app has been one of the only reasons why I had to buy a WinTel box for the last couple of years. About friggin time that something serious happens in the CAD|CAM market regarding OSX. Of course I would love to see stuff like Houdini or Digital Fusion (just to mention some) but this is a tremendeous start.

Now you can continue to explain the world how important it is to expand the U.S. way of democracy - and how dangerous arabic people really are.

"Iran has stated multiple times that they wish to obliterate Israel. They have stated multiple times that they will obtain nuclear weapons. They have stated again, multiple times, that they have no fear of acting even if it means the destruction of their entire state. The Islamic cult of the 12th imam drives their thinking.

Iran funds Hezbollah, the terrorist outfit that murdered 200+ U.S. Marines in Beruit, and funds various Iraqi terror groups that have killed soldiers from the coalition of the willing. Hezbollah also murders Israeli citizens. In short, Iran is a threat.

I can only presume that you typed before your brain came on line."

And this has what to do with anything? Really, find a politics board or something. Nobody here wants to read a bunch of hate-filled political rhetoric.