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Apple ought to send Microsoft flowers and nice ‘Thank You’ note for Windows Vista
Monday, May 21, 2007 - 09:45 AM EST

Apple Store"The tech company that really seems to be enjoying Microsoft's new operating system is Apple," Justin Lahart reports for The Wall Street Journal.

Lahart reports, "The Cupertino, Calif., computer maker has used Microsoft's Vista, introduced in November for businesses and January for consumers, as an opportunity to make hay over the self-proclaimed superiority of the operating system in its own Macs. Microsoft doesn't agree with that message, noting it has shipped 40 million copies of Vista for consumers. Still, Apple has the hotter hand. Mac sales were up 35% in the first quarter versus a year earlier. PC sales were up by 9%, according to research firm Gartner -- a bit better than the prior two quarters, but below the average rate of the past three years."

"'Somebody in Cupertino ought to send flowers to Redmond and a nice 'Thank You' note,' hedge-fund manager Jeff Matthews noted in his blog," Lahart reports.

Lahart reports, "Consumers have been forced to buy Vista, because many computer makers no longer make consumer PCs configured for its predecessor, Windows XP. But FTN Midwest Research analyst Bill Fearnley Jr. reported that many computer sellers are now selling consumers business PCs that run XP."

Lahart reports, "The hope, on Wall Street and in Silicon Valley, is that later this year Vista will start spurring sales. Given companies' slow and steady purchase plans and consumers' apparent lack of enthusiasm, that's a pipe dream, says Pip Coburn of Coburn Ventures. 'There are people who are disappointed now, and there are people who are going to be more disappointed,' he says."

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May 21, 07 - 08:49 am Comment from: gow

Or should Microsoft send Apple flowers for having somebody to copy? Very poorly, but a copy, nonetheless. Vista, the new word for joke.

May 21, 07 - 08:54 am Comment from: wall street guy

yeah

Vista = joke

that's the WOW

May 21, 07 - 08:54 am Comment from: M.X.N.T.4.1

The best that can be said about Vista is that for those who just refuse to switch to Mac or go Linux - it's all there is when their current machine dies.

May 21, 07 - 08:56 am Comment from: en

"Lahart reports, "Consumers have been forced to buy Vista, because many computer makers no longer make consumer PCs configured for its predecessor, Windows XP. "

Well, we know Lahart does not know what he is talking about. grin PC's are "configured" to run an operating system. Actually, new PC's will run XP just fine (well as fine as they ever did LOL) its just that MicroGoo does not want to let you. grin

en

MDN word "stop" as in "stop the madness!" LOL

May 21, 07 - 08:57 am Comment from: MCCFR

Yeah, round about the same time Apple sends them an invoice for acting as MSFT's R&D;centre for the last two decades.

May 21, 07 - 08:59 am Comment from: en

Me bad with slow fingers this monday morning.

"PC's are "configured" should read PC's are NOT "configured"

Hope your monday is going better. grin

MDN word "getting" as in, I guess I am gettin OLD. LOL

May 21, 07 - 09:00 am Comment from: TowerTone

Well, it's time for that awkward call.
The one that is kinda a 'thank you....it's over.....have you had a check-up lately?.....'

MW:problem

May 21, 07 - 09:07 am Comment from: Who cares?

Here we go again. Apple fanbois claim that Apple products are better because Microsoft makes can’t develop anything revolutionary and exciting. What does this mean? Well, obviously that Apple, er, Crapple, products stink less than Microsoft products. Hey, that's a greater advertising slogan, "Crapple, we sell digital feces less stinky than Microsoft."

Ya know, I don't buy any product because it is marginally less mediocre and somewhat less inferior than another. I want the best product. That should be Apple's goal irrespective of Microsoft’s failures.

This repeated and constant comparison of Apple to Microsoft only distracts Apple fanbois from the obvious problem that Apple has dropped the ball in OS development (i.e. Leopard delays). Well, I suppose that the truth will be known later this year. I hope that the wait will be worth the hype.

May 21, 07 - 09:08 am Comment from: tyk

The plural of PC is PCs ...

May 21, 07 - 09:22 am Comment from: Chris

@"Who cares?":

What the heck are you blabbering on about? If YOU can design a better OS/computer, then please do so, and maybe you'll have a market for it. Until then, you obviously WILL buy a product that is the "least mediocre", whatever that is, in your opinion, because you're typing on something, now, aren't you? Your argument is absolutely nonsensical and absurd.

May 21, 07 - 09:22 am Comment from: clyde

Shouldn't this read "PC's are disfigured with Windows Vista"?

May 21, 07 - 09:24 am Comment from: Chris

Oops, sorry, I shouldn't have fed the troll.

May 21, 07 - 09:29 am Comment from: Shoeman

@ en

We all know that that En does not know what he's talking about. PCs are configured to run an Operating system. Actually, new PCs will run OSX just fine (in many cases better than a real Mac) it's just that Apple does not want to let you and adds a chip to all Macs for OSX to verify that it's real.

OSX 10.4.8 runs just fine on my Home Built PC, thanks to the OSX86 project.

May 21, 07 - 09:31 am Comment from: LinuxGuy and Mac Prodigal Son

Here is the article:
Microsoft Vista May Not Meet Optimistic Views

May 21, 07 - 09:31 am Comment from: Tempus Fugit

This repeated and constant comparison of Apple to Microsoft only distracts Apple fanbois from the obvious problem that Apple has dropped the ball in OS development (i.e. Leopard delays). Well, I suppose that the truth will be known later this year. I hope that the wait will be worth the hype.

hahahahaaa!! BWAAA-hahahahahaaaaaa! (gasp) AAHHHH-HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!
OH! that's rich!! hee-hee!! yeah, get this...
"Nanny-nanny, boo-boo... your OS was delayed too!!" Hah-HAAA!! oh, yeah... let's compare delays. that'll hurt Mac users feelings! HAAAA!!
and another one... Apple has dropped the ball in OS development... and what... Vista wasnt even on store shelves before there were exploits and malware for it?! HA-HAAAA!!
this is some seriously laughable, funny stuff! this is the best they can do, now? they're even admitting that Vista is crap and still trying to insult Apple in the process! the only legit ammo they actually have left is (in a whimpy, whiny voice) "But... but we've got more market share!" as if market share is a sign of build quality! that was the saddest attempt at flamebait i've seen in months... so sad it's just funny!

May 21, 07 - 09:39 am Comment from: LinuxGuy and Mac Prodigal Son

Aaaaarrrgh! The link is not properly parsed by the MDN site. Just go to:

http://www.investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=445&pt=m

and go to the message 51152.

May 21, 07 - 09:40 am Comment from: Stefano Jobso

Microsoft's coin is really tarnished for the first time ever.

Their stuff was always rubbish, but the point was that the public didn't know that. But they know now.

When NeXT brought out its revolutionary advance, it's "objected oriented cake" running on a solid Unix underpinning Microsoft just said it had amazing things coming in the pipeline although it actually had nothing, and gullible journalists simply swallowed the story whole. And the general public was probably blissfully unaware anyway.

Here is Steve Jobs demonstrating NeXT--a must-see:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=j02b8Fuz73A

Now reflect that this amazing space-age product was around back when Microsoft had Windows 3.1. This is what Tim Berners Lee wrote his browser for the worldwide web on.

Microsoft had nothing to compete. They said they had something called "Cairo". Here's the story:

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/Q4.06/4E2A8848-5738-45B1-A659-AD7473899D7D.html

Microsoft always produced rubbish, and they always acted fraudulently. But the point is that now the average person is beginning to realize that. They resent putting up with the rubbish, and they resent being lied to and manipulated. They've seen the court cases, and noted who said what. They've begun to resent being gamed on file formats. They don't want to be tied up with DRM (which is rife in Vista at really low level). And they're fed up with being infected over years with malware, because Microsoft left all the doors open, because it really didn't give a damn.

Bill Joy once said: "I find Windows of absolutely no technical interest. They took systems designed for isolated desktop systems and put them on the Net without thinking about evildoers ..." And, of course, that is exactly what they did do.

People were queuing round the block to get Windows 95. It's never going to happen again. I recall when Vista was launched that the BBC had some cooing little articles. The BBC may have some--shall we say "interesting"?--connections with Microsoft. It's viewers haven't. The BBC opened a talkback noticeboard where viewers could tell them how mcuh they were looking forward to Vista. Well, they weren't. Not a glad new morning as with 95 again. They were bitter, angry, contemptuous, and derisive. I hardly saw a single even indifferent comment let alone a positive one, and the most negative ones were garnering the highest scores among other posters.

Yep, the public is now onto Microsoft, and knows all about the quality of its products.

May 21, 07 - 10:17 am Comment from: GranitW

Maybe Apple should give flowers to Microsoft's grave when Microsoft dies in October by a case of Leopards.

May 21, 07 - 10:21 am Comment from: @tyk

... where English is spoken proper an' all that, the plural of PC is PC's.

Know wot I mean?

May 21, 07 - 10:50 am Comment from: clyde

Or, "PC's inflicted with Windows Vista"?

May 21, 07 - 11:38 am Comment from: Twisted Mac Freak

". . . when Microsoft dies in October by a case of Leopards."

Maybe a case of Leoprosy?

May 21, 07 - 12:12 pm Comment from: DLMeyer

Apple can only grow "so fast" ... safely. This is a problem. If they grow as fast as many of us like, they are likely to run into manufacturing problems. They would have to bring new manufacturing partners on-line, with all the potential for problems that would bring. That, and well over half the total PC market is below Apple's price structure.
My son-in-law used to be a Mac person, switched to a PC for "cost reasons", but plays WoW on his wife's iBook. Hmmm. Let Apple grow at a "safe" speed, taking the top end. Let Linux take the bottom end, as they become more user accessible. Give a cheer when they meet in the middle. Apple may only have 1/4 of the market, but MS will have "none".

DLMeyer - the Voice of G.L.Horton's Stage Page Pod Cast

May 21, 07 - 12:24 pm Comment from: Grammar Police

to @tyk:

No. tyk was right. You quoted the possesive (as in this PC's case is beige) or the shortened form of is (as in this PC's going back for repair).

May 21, 07 - 12:58 pm Comment from: Jeff

Thank you Microshaft

May 21, 07 - 01:19 pm Comment from: Gilles

Don't be so smug ! QuickTime 7.1.6 doesn't work. But again, Vista as a whole doen't work, either.

May 21, 07 - 02:15 pm Comment from: @ Grammer Police

English is a strange language. If people continue to misspell certain words, those word misspellings, over time, become acceptable forms of the word. Just compare American and British Dictionaries.

If you create a word, like craptacular, and it catches on, like craptacular Zune, then it becomes acceptable English.

If people repeatedly use a word or phrase from a different language, it becomes, over time, a part of the English language. English is a living, growing language.

CD's, DVD's, PC's and others are all acceptable spellings of the plural of those nemonics. The person reading the sentence would not think the writer meant the possessive or a contraction for the verb is. However, adding an extra letter to a nemonic, even if it is lower case, does change the meaning of a nemonic.

May 21, 07 - 02:29 pm Comment from: Crabapple

Mnemonics methinks Guv!

Safari....Is that an English word?
What does it mean?
Has its meaning changed over time?

May 21, 07 - 03:43 pm Comment from: Twisted Mac Freak

Safari means acceptable. As in, safari so good.

May 21, 07 - 09:57 pm Comment from: TowerTone

How about that song "Safari Way"

Safari way
Doesn't Apple stay in one place anymore?
Ballmer has turned into a media whore.
And when I want to internet explore
I like
Safari Way....

May 22, 07 - 04:50 pm Comment from: Hm ...

Well, it seems to me that

    Vista is the Zune of OS's

MW: "Friends" as in "Friends don't let friends run Vista."

May 22, 07 - 04:55 pm Comment from: Hm ...

@ Crabapple

Actually, 'safari' is not an English word; it was borrowed in the mid 1800's from Swahili or Arabic.

Curiouser and curiouser this English she is&hellipis;

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