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Where is 10.5.1????

Now, even my printer feels snappier!

Yeah Safari 3.0

On a 1 to 10 scale...

How SNAPPY is it?

I'm still waiting for 6.0.9. Apple was suppose to release MultiVerse MultiFinder for that version. My Mac 512KE is still waiting in the wings!

Seriously waiting for 10.5.1. Just to fix some oddities in 10.5. I'd like to be able to set finder views per window, like Tiger. Instead of how its global right now.

It was only a 3 before the update. Now it is probably a 5. I expect it to rise to a 7 or 8 when I upgrade to Leopard. It is the fastest cat around!

Tiger is sooooo last month.

just updated 10.4.10 to 10.4.11

is it snappy... about the same

upgrading next machine in a minute... it requires the combo ppc
as i am going from 10.4.8

hope this is as smooth as other

Developers have just been seeded with the third build of 10.5.1 (9B18). If all goes well in the testing process, you should see it within the next ten days, I'd say.

destined to be the rarest of OS X installations. Isn't everyone on 10.5 by now? They should be!

@me
Not if you are still running a pristine G4 cube like I am. The quietest computer ever made.

finally safari 3
whats the "combo" option?
sry..
noob

Why didn't they update the look of Safari?!?!?!?

@Marko easy there Tiger!
Take it easy on the new kids. They don't all have your experience upselling combos at Mickey D's

I've been using the Safari 3 beta for quite awhile and it's been great. Anyone know of any fixes or improvements in the the final version?

MagicWord = Special (as in Safari is Special!)

As a Leopard owner who had to re-install Tiger on my 1GHz TiBook (problem with the old white Airport), it's great to see this update. Thank you Apple, for keeping the Tiger alive and supported.

I'm with ya...where oh where is 10.5.1????

Glad they released it and added Safari 3 as a bonus. Also, kudos to Apple for the Panther security update - helping those on the older OS Xs and older equipment. You know, the ones that aren't independently wealthy, have a money tree or Mommy & Daddy to buy them new computers every two years.

Not everyone can use 10.5, FCS still doesn't work with it yet. Although I haven't yet installed the new patch for it that came out today... I hope FCS will work.... finally.

at our house ... Microsoft's recently implemented denial of Hotmail access to Safari hasn't improved with this version.

You know, we got this spiffy new top of the line iMac and my Windows using wife was delighted to give OS X apps a fair try .. until she could no longer get her mail in Safari. That was the end of that. We now have to run Parallels full time just so she can access her long established Hotmail account in IE. pfffft.

Microsoft pisses me off.

Elaborate. I am able to get my hotmail e-mail on my iMac with Safari. I just NOW checked.

Some things I've noticed... it is snappier for sure, Safari refreshes where you were as opposed to the top of the page, no more funky scroll bar action on big pages, the update feature has new a description if you don't have anymore updates, Spotlight does some catching up for a few seconds when you first you use it ...so far that is all I've noticed. It's nice seeing Tiger get some attention, don't have the extra USD200+ for Leopard and iLife 08 just yet.

@gwm: what about firefox? works fine with Hotmail last I checked? Parallels seems like overkill...

http://www.mozilla.com/firefox

What are the build numbers of each version?

Safari 3 breaks my WordPress blog.

part II, video is working much better, and thanks to MemoryCell I can monitor any apps memory use on the tool bar, and Safari 3.0.4(523.12) has definitely plugged some holes.

Well I say this is bad. The new Safari doesn't seem to understand any of my bookmarks as webadresses. Nothing happens, whatever I choose. Using Firefox is not a problem

elaboration re Hotmail access denial in Safari:

Safari goes through a long series of redirects, ultimately ending at a Windows Live notification page which states that "Windows Live ID is not available from this site". The only way we can get in with Safari is to then go to the Windows Live services page and pretend to modify the account preferences. At that point Windows Live (and Hotmail) becomes available to Safari for a few hours, only to return to non-accessible status shortly thereafter. This development is about a month old and consistently repeatable.

I dunno ...maybe it's a geographically restricted lock-down test by Microsoft? I just assumed it was happening to everybody.

"me", you are kidding, right? We have five Macs in the house, three just for my wife and me. I bought the Leopard Family Pack, but only updated my dual G5 - the iBook and the Al iMac are waiting for 10.5.1 ... or, perhaps, 2. Safari 3 breaks some sites. My wife won't accept that. I have to be able to promise her that it won't break anything she uses - or restore the older system - or she doesn't want it. New stuff may be SaWEEEt, but working stuff is the BEST.
Because of my problems with Safari 3, only our laptop will be getting "11" until I've checked further.
Dave

It seems to me like Safari3 is able to load tabgroups though not the first adress in those groups and choosing individual adresses doesn't work. It also complained about the security certificates for my banksite though it worked on the previous version yesterday. How do I downgrade back to the betaversion?

I notice that with Safari 3 GMail Chat now works and my bank's site (NatWest in UK) which wouldn't allow the beta to be used now works fine.

I should add:

We also get the same denial of Hotmail access on the old G3 iMac with OS X 10.3.9 and Safari 1.3.2.

The problem seems to be coming straight from Microsoft, imho. It's not a problem inherent only to Safari 3. And .. it's new. Everything used to work just fine. Now it doesn't, regardless which OS and regardless which Safari.

Same thing happened to me. I have enabled the debiug option. If you change the usaer agent to for example, Firefox, hotmail will load fine. So the problem IS Microsoft blocking Safari users

Does this update disable bootcamp??

how can I say it gently? .. ah f*&k;hotmail, use gmail, or yahoo.. an acronym for You. Always. Have. Other. Options.

I just upgraded, and now I can't feel my liver......

Downgraded my iMac from Leopard to this-hopefully Apple will fix Leopard's airport issues soon.

heh. Maybe MDN can somehow independently confirm this Microsoft Safari Hotmail-denial attack and run a big exposé. lol. I would just love that.

My Quadra feels much snappier after this update!

Thanks for all who have posted about their experiences with update. I'm still hesitant to take the plunge with an iMac 17 800 MHz PC G4. Could be some time into the New Year before I get a Leopard compatible Apple Computer. Can anyone within my type of set-up encourage me to move on to Safari 3?
MW=lived, as I have lived through a previous bad experience with an update.

There must have been some Rosetta updates because Bejeweled 2 deluxe now works. Now I need to try out Quicken 2006. It has been broken since 10.4.8

Thought the upgrade would fix the fact that QT doesn't show video in Safari. Just another incorrect thought. QT works in FireFox.

Just upgraded to 10.4.11 the browser is a he!! of allot better. Purchased Leopard waiting on 10.5.1 and want 2 hear feedback plus i use skype and don't want compromise its functionality...I switched from pc to mac awhile back and will never look back...

Probably the last dot dot update for Tiger. A System update that includes a Safari update - that's a new one...

I have the same problem with Safari that Mymac4ever has... pages not loading... whether via bookmarks or by directly typing in the URL.

Any further info on this?

very happy with the update
haven't had any page loading freezes since
so smooth now
maybe i'll buy leopard till 10.5.1 or 2

MW: "some" now apple give us some graphics card drivers (imac)

I'm running Leopard but my PowerBook is snappier just by reading this article!

@twodales,
Trust me - update your Cube to Leopard. Mine works great under it - better than Tiger even!

If you don't know how, reply back and I'll reply with some options.

C3
(I'm 2 better than you C1)

@TowerTone,
No. That would be the drinking.

@ anaknipedro
"Now I need to try out Quicken 2006. It has been broken since 10.4.8"

What is broken? I use Quicken 2005 through all the Tiger updates (except .11) and now Leopard and it seems to work fine. I don't use all its "features" so maybe it is "broken" and I don't notice (or care).

Thanks

Ohh, I was just kidding, Dr. Q.
Besides, I quit drinking years ago.
Yeah, I can feel it right here..no wait...that's my spleen....