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Feb 24, 09 - 08:43 am Comment from: Crunch n Munch Cheese Wafflez

OMG! Nice job MDN for being first to report this. Haven't downloaded yet, and Safari already feels snappier. :D

Feels snappier!

Thanks for the quick find on this. Downloading now!
Check Woopid

Sorting bookmarks???? Where's that?

Wow! Smokin'! WHAT AN IMPROVEMENT!

Feb 24, 09 - 09:24 am Comment from: jonahan

It's really nice ... I like it much better than Safari 4 Dev Preview... It's realllly nice .. go core animation!

Installed....

.... and uninstalled.

Crashes on start up.
Probably due to an Internet plug-in installed but life's too short and I'm supposed to be working.

Hope my experience is the exception...

@ In and Out,
It has done the same to me as well, crashed 10 times once I installed.

Feb 24, 09 - 09:29 am Comment from: jonahan

100/100 on acid 3 test.

Feb 24, 09 - 09:35 am Comment from: Crunch n Munch Cheese Wafflez

Acid3 Test... http://i42.tinypic.com/347cz9y.jpg

beautiful, the new search functions are just great

Works great! I miss the blue bar, but I guess it is less distracting now. Pages seem to work now without loading all the way. I kind of like not knowing exactly how far along page loading I am. If the page works, that's all I need to know.
Acid3 animation was a little choppy for me, but the final picture looked great.

Feb 24, 09 - 09:48 am Comment from: HolyMackerel

This would work really well on an iPhone tablet…

SNAP-PEEEEE!!!!!

Apple innovatively kicks the competition's butts yet again. Back to the drawing board, IE 8, Firefox, and yes, Chrome guys.

Feb 24, 09 - 09:51 am Comment from: steve32465

This beta release is slower than a IE8 beta! Not ready. I'm sticking with my Firefox 3.1b2!

Feb 24, 09 - 09:52 am Comment from: eMax

its it stable? not faster, but STABLE? and does it replace safari 3 or is it a separate application?

Feb 24, 09 - 09:55 am Comment from: HMCIV

I downloaded it and my PC came to a grinding halt. No wait. I installed the Conficker work by mistake. Why do I always do that???

I'm just curious about why there is a Firewire requirement on it. It does seem strange considering the macbook no longer has it. It looks like that is only required if on a PowerPC computer but it is not really clear.

OK, you CANT put stop and reload buttons on the tool bar? WTF?

@ eMax it replaces Safari 3

Feb 24, 09 - 10:01 am Comment from: twodales

I use Safari for Windoze at work and this "new look" sucks. Why to I want my browser to look more "windows like" when the reason I use Safari for windows is to get my computer at work to look more Mac like?
Pages are rendering faster for me, other feedback later.

Absolutely incredible speed.

This puts all others to shame. No doubting that.

Veeeery Slow on a G4, with no extensions. Very slow.

Where did the page reload button go too???

Cool, works great. They must have used the latest WebKit, because it passes the Acid3 test exactly the same way. I like having the tabs at the top in the unused header area, instead of in the bottom.

CSS Animation! Sweet!

Page reloading is now in the very left of the address bar, to the right of the RSS button.

NAS

Also, if you hit the spinning wheel in the right of the address bar when a page is loading, it acts as the stop button.

Feb 24, 09 - 10:18 am Comment from: Jubei

Safari also renders pages beautifully. Even shows drop shadows of images.

Okay i'm missing my snap back, feature. Please apple put it back

Dang- that is QUICK. One might even say Snappy.
I may never get used to tabs up top, though... can someone explain why it's better for me to reach over the title & menu bars in order to switch between tabs?

@ NAS

Thanks a bunch!

I agree with Nathan...tabs all the way on top? Awful!

@ rattymouse

now it is integrated in adresbar

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Comment from: rattymouse

OK, you CANT put stop and reload buttons on the tool bar? WTF?

Feb 24, 09 - 10:35 am Comment from: Wade Smith

Very fast browser. And Adblock and SafariBlock still work, so I can move about MDN freely without all those annoying popups. Someone mentioned bookmark sorting? It's still not here. Where's the love?

Feb 24, 09 - 10:38 am Comment from: Crabs

So far I'm a fan. Does the full page zoom make anyone think of resolution independence, or is that just me?

Here is a safari 4 first look video:

Safari 4 First Look Video

Been running her for the last 30 minutes...not bad...will take a little getting used to.
If you have a problem with the now always there reload button...
just hit Apple-R...it's so much quicker and easier.
If you're looking for Cover Flow...just hit the bookmarks bar...WinSin users will drool over that one.
Why can't there be Mail and Address Book for Windows, also?

Installer will not let me install on any of my drives. What a joke

Feb 24, 09 - 11:04 am Comment from: steve32465

Okay, so I've given this beta a bit more time and it seems to settle in after a bit of use. It seems that once it caches pages a few times the speed is really there! I wish Pith Helmet would work with it though. Maybe this is a good time to try Adblock for Safari now as someone above said it works. I like the new features, especially "Top Sites" I'm not sure how much I'd actually use it, but I'll play with it.

Feb 24, 09 - 11:12 am Comment from: AJKphotography

It's not a biggie but I notice that the green EV SSL text now appears in the address bar instead of the top right corner of the browser window where it was easier to miss. This brings Safari more into line with the likes of Firefox.

There seems to be lots of nice little tweaks that make Safari a better browser and it certainly seems fast. Features like Coverflow and Favourite sites seem a bit gimmicky so once the novelty has worn off I probably won't use them. Tabs on top will take some getting used to but it does mean that they don't take up space from the main window so it's an example of the browser getting out of the way.

On the whole I like Safari 4.

Page reload button is now part of Address bar. Look to the far right end of it.

nice but painfully slow to load pages... I can drink a cup of coffee while it loads the new design...

I hate the tabs on top... Apple what r u doing?
Where is the reload button

Safari 4 makes me think Apple is trying to copy Google Chrome. Tabs across the top, top sites as thumbnails. Not saying it's a bad thing, Chrome is awesome. Safari 4 is chrome for mac!

Safari 4 brings a G4 processor (1.42 ghz) to its knees.

Impressed, yet unimpressed.
Full marks on goal achieved, this browser is fast... relatively speaking. It hung here and there while I tried to get the hang of Top Sites. I also get it, be wasteful with core animation, but I would rather see some nice un3D layout, like the covers in iTunes. I think Shiira has similar? What I care, I use this thing for browsing, and the suggestion is suspiciously fun and accurate.
Bad Apple for DESIGN. It's CRAP, it stinks on ice. Why try Chrome if it's merely experimental? Tabs on top, this will take a while. and the resize corner is misleading! I still have a Hard Copy of Apple Human Interface Guideline, and I am not afraid to throw it.

I rather have a web browser that doesn't hang in the first 5 minutes of sampling, but wth, I am a cheapo and still on a G5. Glad tho I made a copy of Safari 3, so I can use both... yay.

Feb 24, 09 - 11:28 am Comment from: DLMeyer

From some of the remarks above, I'm glad I didn't download this as soon as I saw it. Crashes on loading? NOT good.
Still.
It's a Beta Test ! That means "in pretty good shape, but may not be quite ready for Prime Time ... yet." And it apparently isn't. So ... not ready for my wife's computer. I'll get it on my Dual G5 later today. Went through the list of "features" earlier. Bad Page Design. Should have put the boring ones at the top,or mingled them. Got quite bored maybe half-way down the list. But ... Good Stuff.

Works great on our well-maintained Macs. I love it!

Feb 24, 09 - 11:35 am Comment from: DLMeyer

Oh! And kudos for Apple deciding to put this out there as a Beta before dumping a slightly-lumpy version on hopeful and gleeful users not quite prepared for a version .9 of an over-hyped product. If we get half of the problems out of the way before my wife and her kind get their hands on it ... they will be less unhappy about it. Especially if Apple fixes the more obvious half of the problems noted.