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"...will theoretically blow past the performance of not just the Intel GMA X3100 video on Apple's current MacBooks but also the GMA 4500MHD found on newer notebooks..." The real question is, will Apple keep its graphics hardware up-to-date with the rest of the industry or will it still be using NVIDIA's MCP79 a year from now?

Oct 11, 08 - 10:29 pm Comment from: Tommy Boy

Sorry, I've given up on seeing Blu-Ray in any Mac, ever.

Oct 11, 08 - 10:33 pm Comment from: TowerTone

'Mac Blu-ray' has an odd ring to it......

Oct 11, 08 - 10:51 pm Comment from: Sixvodkas

And 1 year from now, will NVIDIA's GPU's be burning up (again), causing thousands of logic board failures (again)?

Oct 11, 08 - 11:08 pm Comment from: ericdano

Kevin Rose is bored. He has nothing else to do, so, he pulls things from his a** and says he has inside information. So he was sorta right on the Nano......big deal.

Kevin, go and fix digg. That is what you should be doing you hit whore.

BlueRay is an added expense that cannot be justified. I hardly ever use my CD/DVD drive except the occasional software install and that can be done with DVD sharing. For HD video, I can use Apple TV or just download it on iTunes.

Why should Apple ever put Blue Ray into their machines? We have so many other ways to get HD.

Robert Evans: Perfect example of user with Mac trait #56 and #155. Keep living the Mac dream though.

Robert, when you come into the real world and start really using your Mac for something besides just entertainment, you might find that you come to appreciate being able to back up REALLY big files to disk as a second backup method. Big backups is the #1 reason I want Blu-ray. But I'll take the movies, too. Not all of us decided to get an early model of AppleTV. Anyway, I'm sure you'll be able to order yours without Blu-ray. By the way, tried tabs in your browser yet?

The more I learn about nvidia's graphics platform, the more I hope Apple will adopt it. I'll have to wait until Monday to find out.

I don't think these notebooks are the "brick". I think the "brick" is an HDTV with integrated TV.

Better graphics would be awesome but THE COMBO DRIVE MUST DIE.

Oct 12, 08 - 01:20 am Comment from: Predrag

Either the price goes down, or the combo drive dies, but not both. Don't expect an Apple notebook with a super drive below $1,000. It simply can't happen (let me rephrase that: it is extremely unlikely to happen).

I don't see why bluray can't be an option on the high end 17 inch MBP (it would go nicely with the optional hd screen)

Why? There are $500 PC laptops that have "Superdrives" in them.

Having any model of laptop without a Superdrive in it and less than 2GB of RAM is simply unacceptable, at ANY price point. There are no other laptops on the market without superdrive and 2GB of RAM these days. Laptops half the cost of an entry level MacBook have these things.

Oct 12, 08 - 02:14 am Comment from: John Crawford

I don't see why Bluray can't be an option on all notebooks. Just price it quite high.

John

Oct 12, 08 - 02:28 am Comment from: MikeK

I don't see why Bluray can't be an option on all notebooks. Just price it quite high.

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Because Leopard and iLife 08 do not support Blu-Ray authoring, and there is currently not a single Apple display (Cinema or Notebook) that is capable of displaying Blu-Ray content because none are HDCP compliant.

There is a lot more involved than just plopping in a Blu-Ray drive and expecting it to work..

Snow Leopard and iLife 09 will likely offer Blu-Ray support..

Oct 12, 08 - 02:29 am Comment from: MikeK

Oh yeah, None of Apple's Pro apps support Blu-Ray authoring either.

Apple needs (as any other constructor) to propose the best solutions of the time.
I'm sure Intel and Apple work hard on new and inedit components to have the overall best results in computing on Macs.
By now Intel has just to bring out better integrated graphic chipsets.

Oct 12, 08 - 04:26 am Comment from: HolyMackerel

Just make the Blu-Ray drives external USB2 devices for all 10.5.6 Macs at huge cost. A Combo Blu-Ray as expensive and a RW Blu-Ray as exorbitant. That way the MacBook price is kept low for those who don't want it, and available for those who do. And it would mean you don't need to buy a new Mac or new Blu-Ray drive for every one of your older Macs.

HG Wells:

Using tabs while browsing is neither a sign of advancement, intelligence or superiority. It's a matter of personal opinion. You're a pompous antagonist.

Oh, that was my personal opinion.

@ HolyMackerel : +1 . Even professionnaly, there'll be no real need for Blu-Ray support before at least a year! (By then, externals will be lot cheaper).
@ meh : +1 . I hate and never use tabs.

Oct 12, 08 - 04:53 am Comment from: twilightmoon

@ Hg Wells

Ever heard of an external optical drive? A network RAID? Ever heard about external hard drives?

No?

Just asking.

Video of this new platform has been reposted on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI

I agree, Apple can't refer to the drive as "Mac Blu Ray"

"A Combo Blu-Ray as expensive"

$94

" and a RW Blu-Ray as exorbitant."

$134

And discount all those prices by the $25 retail cost of the "SuperDrive" or $17 cost of the "Combo Drive". putting a "Superdrive" in everything should cost mac owners less than $8 extra on a machine. Blu-Ray player capability would add about $70 to the cost of your Mac, or $110 to be able to burn them.

And these are retail quantity one prices, what you expect to pay, not what Apple pays for 2 million/quarter.

Whether we like it or not an 1.6Gb HD Movie from iTunes and a 30+ HD movie on Blu-ray are not comparable. I welcome blu-ray to the mac and see it's huge potential. Apple is on the blu-ray supports list, it is about time they step up and embrace the technology that is far superior to downloads at this time.

Oct 12, 08 - 08:29 am Comment from: Cubert

"I agree, Apple can't refer to the drive as "Mac Blu Ray"

If they do, I want to meet this lucky Ray fellah.

No BlueRay for Macbooks

MacBook Pro's perhaps, but are YOU willing to give up burning audio cds?

I don't think so.

You know, BlueRay is Sony and Sony is Sony/BMG, part of the RIAA, the music industry.

Obama's loose lips sinks ships.

Most people raised in Hawaii are natural tattletales. It's because they live happy in "paradise" and lose their guard, they become very naive.

Obama already gave up a sensitive military operation in Pakistan. What's next?

Biden is in there in case the Democrats have to pull Obama's plug.

I love my black MacBook I bought in May, but the Intel graphics chipset leaves much to be desired.

Raving MacHead:

Palin will fix it with her vast knowledge of "Packing Stan".
She's a lot like the iPhone adapter. Defective and can't handle power.

McCain will volunteer as a hostage.

You're a racist asshole.

P.S. Ask any intelligent woman (most people except Sarah can name a newspaper she's read) how many decades Caribou Barbie will push back women's rights. McCain screwed up but that is no surprise. He's a pig. Want proof?

Oct 12, 08 - 11:57 am Comment from: Mr. Reeee

A Blu-ray drive would be great if your INTERNAL monitor is capable of displaying Full-HD. That'd be the 17" MacBook Pro with optional high-res display (1920 x 1200).

Maybe THAT would be the $3000 model that was hypothesized by someone earlier in the week.

Anyway, it's log overdue that the macbook line include a REAL graphics card. Those built-in Intel things were crap from Day One!

RavingMacHead... go crawl back into your spider hole.

Breaking News!

Top Palintologists have determined the type of dinosaur Jesus rode into Nazareth!

"No BlueRay for Macbooks"

Illiterate? Idiot.

"Most people raised in Hawaii are natural tattletales. It's because they live happy in "paradise" and lose their guard, they become very naive."

You are a dangerous mental patient. This isn't a flame. It's a warning.

99% don't need blu-ray, esp on a portable! I'd rather see efforts put into home and travel entertainment. I want to play my digital movie content on the entertainment system in my car for my kids before I wan another plastic disc spinner thingie in my portable mac.

"before I wan another plastic disc spinner thingie in my portable mac."

It's not called a plastic disc spinner thingie, it's called a plastic netflix to car entertainment system movie ripper thingie.

Oct 12, 08 - 02:22 pm Comment from: Mac Daddy

"Caribou Barbie"

OMG, does she come with a 30-06 and a Buck knife? I want one!!!



BTW, an external blu-ray drive would be fine - I'm not sure they to build them in yet, especially in a laptop. When blu-ray becomes more widely adopted maybe throw it in there.

Let's see... we have

a) Blu-Ray
b) BlueRay
c) bluray
d) Bluray
e) Blu Ray

Which is it?

How about... none of the above

try
Blu-ray
or BD (Blu-ray Disc)

Oct 12, 08 - 02:40 pm Comment from: nekogami13

Microsoft put all kinds of DRM hooks deep in Vista to get HD/blu ray DVD playback into it.
To get HD playback, you have to have an HDCP compliant monitor.

Apple will not put these DRM hooks in any OS it develops(I hope).
There are no HDCP compliant monitors or displays from Apple.
There is no playback software for OS X that allows blu-ray playback.


If you want a blu-ray drive so badly for backups-go buy one. They have externals available with Mac software to do data read/write.

Oct 12, 08 - 02:50 pm Comment from: nekogami13

Also, who cares about hi-def play back on a small screen?
The results are not much better than regular DVD on a 17" or 13" display-really negligible.

Oct 12, 08 - 02:52 pm Comment from: RamaFan

I can see the NVIDIA graphics. At least in the 'upper-end' MacBooks and most defiantly the MacBook Pro's.

Doubtful on the Blu-Ray inclusion, though it if its, it will almost certainly only be on the MacBook Pro's and if that perhaps only as an added option.

Other rumors about the 'low-end' price point being $800.00 leads me to believe that the lowest end MacBook could be a current model just wrapped in an aluminum case.

"OMG, does she come with a 30-06 and a Buck knife? I want one!!!"

She'll put a laser dot on your forehead from Marine One. Palin will play the flute at your funeral.

Academic Background:

Theodore Roosevelt: Bachelor of arts degree (cum laude) in history and government from Harvard College (1880). Attended Columbia Law School 1880-82). Author of numerous works on history and politics, including The Naval War of 1812 (required reading at the U.S. Naval Academy), Life of Thomas Hart Benton, Life of Gouverneur Morris, Essays in Practical Politics, The Winning of the West (four volumes), History of New York, Hero Tales from American History, American Ideals, and The Rough Riders.

Sarah Palin: Bachelor of science degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho (1987).

Law Enforcement/Military Experience:

Theodore Roosevelt: Deputy sheriff in the Dakota Territory, police commissioner of New York City, captain in the New York National Guard, colonel with the 1st US Volunteer Cavalry Regiment, veteran of the Spanish-American War.

Sarah Palin: None.

Political Experience:

Theodore Roosevelt: Member of New York state assembly, U.S. civil service commissioner, New York City police commissioner, Assistant Secretary of the Navy, governor of New York.

Sara Palin: City council member and mayor of Wasilla, Alaska; governor of Alaska.

@steak

Yea but she can skin a moose in pumps! Which VP would you rather look at for the next 4 years?

:-p

"Which VP would you rather look at for the next 4 years? "

One that doesn't mistake the nuclear bomb button with OnStar.

Palin is an idiot.

the Macbook Mini will continue to use intels graphics, macbook will use mid range nvidia, and macbook pro will use high end graphics.

I have it on good authority that the new MacBook line will include GPS built in and Multi-Touch Screen that will not be taken full advantage of until the release of Snow Leopard. During the demo on tuesday, beta software --much like the Boot Camp beta process-- will be demoed and released with the computer for the pubic to test and will expire a little after the release of Snow Leopard.

MDN had been aggressively deleting the political posts.

Guess they must've taken today off.

One that doesn't mistake the nuclear bomb button with OnStar.

Palin is an idiot.

Oh thank you so much!

You post clearly explains the prospects of Apple dumping Intel Integrated video and/or adopting Blu-ray.

Doorknob.

I am asking the moderator of this site to please eliminate any political flaming nonsense- I am leaving now because I've had enough of it and I will no longer return to this site if the crazies and racist lunatics are allowed to pollute it with their ignorance. There are plenty- in fact, countless other places for them to vent. This is Mac Daily News. I'm interested in the upcoming Macbooks. I am not interested in the retarded arguments regarding people's opinions, especially if they concern non-sequiters such as politics. This is the third time I've had to walk away from here out of disgust.

Oct 12, 08 - 10:01 pm Comment from: Frank

Not only is Intel dumped but a possibility that MacBooks and 15-in MBPs no longer have Firewire :(