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You better hope the Queen is in the "major"

Let the complaining begin!

Up next will be lawsuits by EU commisions. Can't please everyone.

Oh, the humanity!

It'll be the UK, Germany and France for this fall anyway.

This sux badly....gee ...I live in the Netherlands so I will end up with iPhone revision # 3 or 4...:-(

Miami Beach "Sign" No iPhones on Beach WHAT

Seems likely that Apple will start in European countries that have EDGE service companies that are still competitive with 3G networks.

MDN: How do I submit a story for you? Thanks

He! he! heeee!!!!!! rub, rub, rub,.....(my hands) Kerchinggggg!!!!!!

I apologize in advance for this off topic post.

Does Anyone know how to get rid of QT 7.2 and reinstall QT 7.0? Short of reinstalling the OS.

@ Shiva, Yes! drink some Camel's Milk, the fart you expell will send a shiver down your spine, thus correcting your request so avoiding a re-installation.

@ MacB

No it doesn't suck as then you'll have a much more enhanced version released onto the Dutch market right at the start. Plus the price might be less then the US first launch for an iPhone.

@ Shiva

The above poster wasn't very helpful...after all this is an MDN thread!

So try here and post your problem and you may have to register first:

It won't be in France, it said MAJOR countries first.

@eh. Click on the contact us link at the bottom of the page to submit a story to MDN

Only a matter of time and iPhone technology should be shared with its competition, allowed to be opened, and given away for free.

Daily fines by the EU Commission will be dolled out to Apple because Monaco and Portugal will not have the iPhone by 2009. Never mind no carrier wanted to support in those markets, this is Apples' fault and people have a "right" to the iPhone. That's it, a right, not a privelage, but a right!

Suzane Luchi (sp), stop the insanity!

Exactly what I feared. I do not think this is about 3G or EDGE but more about carrier-retributions and not being able to get that cashflow-stream in some countries.

In Belgium, you cannot link a phone to a carrier. This probably means that the iPhone will not come to Belgium. Apple does not want iPhones without a carrier, because every other European would come and shop for these instead of their local fixed phones.

Really unfortunate, because Belgians are used to pay outrageous prices for not even smartphones. What Apple obviously could do with non-fixed phones is put a price on them that would compensate for the loss of carrier-retributions, and make them less interesting for foreigners. That would probaly mean that iPhones in Belgium will get really really expensive.

Hmm, I so hope I am wrong.

How many other countries have this problem?

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MDN: You forgot Ireland! We got the iTMS (as it then was) on 6 Jan 2005. For what it's worth, I think the iPhone will launch in Ireland along with the UK for two reasons - both O2 and Vodafone operate in Ireland, so whichever of them gets it in the UK will prob get it here too, and also Apple's EMEA HQ is in Cork, Ireland, and I think they would rather like to be able to use their own product in their own HQ!

To Steven - Where are the EU Socialists in all this?!:

Re: "Suzane Luchi (sp), stop the insanity!"

I think you mean Susan Powter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Powter

Susan Lucci should stop the inanity. Close but different.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Lucci

MDN: You forgot Ireland...!

Will there be separate Catholic and Protestant versions of the iPhone? (Isn't that de rigeur over there?) Or will Apple do an agnostic version?

in canada it will be later :(
... and it's going to be at least $1000.

check this out:
http://digg.com/apple/So_Do_You_Still_Think_the_iPhone_is_Expensive

@Charko
thanks

@MDN

I wish you would always stipulate "calendar" or "financial" year so we can all be clear on what the heck you are talking about.

Thanks

There's an enormous market for iPhone in the Middle East. Mobile phone penetration here is through the roof and plenty of people have money. It's also a very style/image aware market, where looks and impressions matter greatly. For Apple to delay an iPhone introduction here would be a grave mistake. But the iPhone has to be unlocked and without contract for it to work here. 80-90% of all mobile phone use is prepay so contracts won't work. All phones sold here - all - are unlocked and without contract.

"A few 'major' European countries"

That's a clear example of the lack of knowledge Apple has of Europe and European Market.

The 'major' European country for Mobile Telephony is Italy, both for number of mobiles and for spending.
And 3G is already well developed.

In Apple they are making an assment based on the number of computer sold when evaluating a Mobile Product.

AAA

"MDN: You forgot Ireland! "

"Apple's EMEA HQ is in Cork, Ireland"

Well said tomo.

Hmm, I guess denmark is out of the question...

Why is New Zealand always last :( I want an iPhone!!!!!

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@AAA

You got it!

if apple don´t forget that Portugal and Spain were the first comercial for exportacion/importacion of products i guess that the iberic peninsule should get then first,at least doesn´t need to much oil in the plane.

if the iPhone wont support 3G, Apple will be a laughingstock over here. My last 2 mobiles supported 3G, wtf should I downgrade? RIM are just as stupid, trying to sell their rather fantastic BB 8800 in Europe...without 3G. Great thinking. Yes, it's ugly but I'll keep my E90, thanks.

Australia. We're part of Europe, right?

col angus: fuck you, jerk.

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