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Sat, Nov 21, 2009 - 03:32 PM EST  —  AAPL: 199.92 (-0.59, -0.29%)  |  NASDAQ: 2146.04 (-10.78, -0.5%)

Apple to surprise with earlier-than-expected next-gen iPhone debut?
Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 04:50 PM EST

"Will Apple surprise everyone with an earlier-than-expected debut of the next generation iPhone?" Eric Savitz asks via his Barron's blog.

"Piper Jaffray’s Gene Munster raised that possibility today. He writes in a research note that calls today to 20 Apple retail stores nationwide found none of them had iPhones in stock. He also notes the lead time for phones ordered on Apple.com stands at 5-7 days," Savitz reports.

"Munster figures there is an 80% chance that a new iPhone is coming earlier than expected; he sees a 20% chance that there is a production or manufacturing issue with the phone," Savitz reports.

More in the full article here.

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Apr 01, 08 - 03:55 pm Comment from: rwinters

Apple is probably working hard to make the iPhone look like the new offerings from Samsung, Garmin, Nokia, Rimm, etc. Oh wait, those phones might just be trying to look like the Apple version. smile

Apr 01, 08 - 03:55 pm Comment from: Columbus

Come on iPhone update! Before May 2nd please! Gonna be switching over to AT&T;then!

Apr 01, 08 - 04:00 pm Comment from: Viktor

I really don't like April Fools day, I don't know what to believe in that day.. :-(

Apr 01, 08 - 04:01 pm Comment from: thoeme

Don't these device require FCC approval? Isn't that part of the reason the iPhone was shown six months before it went on sale? Is it possible for Apple to spring a "surprise" new 3G iPhone on us? Just wondering.

Apr 01, 08 - 04:04 pm Comment from: Al

The first iPhone needed FCC approval. Subsequent, derivative iPhones do not.

Apr 01, 08 - 04:04 pm Comment from: Steve516

Perhaps since it is derivative of the first iPhone, it does not require the same FCC compliance?

Apr 01, 08 - 04:08 pm Comment from: Angelus520

God, I hope so. My Nokia has been crapping out lately and not alerting me when I get texts or voicemails. I'd been hoping to hold out until the new iPhone in June but it's getting seriously annoying. I actually looked at my AT&T;account today about upgrading now and then selling it when the new one comes out.

Also thought it was weird that the Apple Store had 5-7 days on shipping for both models.

Apr 01, 08 - 04:16 pm Comment from: Peter

"Don't these device require FCC approval? Isn't that part of the reason the iPhone was shown six months before it went on sale?"

In theory.

First, you can file a confidentiality request to keep most of the information out of the public eye up. Confidentiality requests are good for 45 days (but can be extended up to 180 days). Second, the other trick used is to create a dummy company to seek approval. When the approval is granted, the dummy company is purchased by the parent company.

Apr 01, 08 - 04:19 pm Comment from: BiZarRo BaLlmEr

It makes sense as there are different interpretations as to how many phones Apple is expected to sell in 2008.
If they are expecting to sell 10 million in 2008 then they need to get it going. If they mean 10 million since it's debut to the end of 2008 then they may not be sweating it.

Apr 01, 08 - 04:27 pm Comment from: eMax

what the hell does "expected" mean?

Apple never released ANY information about when it could release a 3G iphone so expected is based on NOTHING. I expect it to be released today. welp i guess this guy is wrong since its not released today.


Stupid, pointless, and factless.

lets all make stuff up.


"Based on recent speculation it is logical to assume that Apple is going to release a 20-core CPU based computer as some point in time in the future. Currently there is a 87.4% chance this will be released in a few years, and a 12.6% chance it will be release in a bunch of years."

Apr 01, 08 - 04:29 pm Comment from: olternaut

Stop with this crap already!!! Is this an April fool's joke or not??

Let me know k? Cause I would like to know if I need to find a defribulator. :(

Apr 01, 08 - 04:32 pm Comment from: Ogre

Were Apple able to circumvent new FCC approval for a refresh, if this were to be based on the same chipset/internals as the Gen 1 phone, (which I'm not inclined to believe), it would mean no 3G in this revision.

I'm not inclined to think that even Apple is above the FCC, so I think we've still got a few months before a refresh. One possibility to avoid a complete freeze on current iPhone sales would be for Apple to simultaneously cut the price on the base-line model iPhone, $199? And announce the $499 new top-of-the-line, 3G, video phone enable, etc etc etc model will be available in 3 months. Run the stock and only those really sold on the higher functions will be inclined to wait.

Apr 01, 08 - 04:48 pm Comment from: BacMook

Not living in the USA the FCC means little to me, but is it the whole device that needs approved or just the circuitry that does the broadcasting and reception? If so could an already approved circuit be used and not require further approval?

Apr 01, 08 - 04:54 pm Comment from: KingMel

I would be highly interested in the math behind Gene Munster's assertion regarding the 20% chance of "production or manufacturing issue with the phone."

Apr 01, 08 - 05:19 pm Comment from: Cubert

I think it is supply and demand. People are getting their income tax refunds. I know a few who bought an iPhone with theirs.

No new iPhone until June. Sorry folks.

Although, I hope I am wrong.

Apr 01, 08 - 05:26 pm Comment from: Spark

@BacMook
Just the broadcasting elements

Apr 01, 08 - 05:28 pm Comment from: shen

they will release a new iPhone next tuesday, one day after the return period for my new iPhone is up.

believe it.

Apr 01, 08 - 06:15 pm Comment from: Bob

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Apr 01, 08 - 06:29 pm Comment from: TowerTone

Viktor
I don't believe you.....

Apr 01, 08 - 06:30 pm Comment from: TowerTone

Bob
I don't believe you.

Apr 01, 08 - 07:25 pm Comment from: Phone Facts

All phones need FCC approval.

Apr 01, 08 - 08:58 pm Comment from: Lilochris

@Viktor

Same hear, but hopefully it's true.

Apr 01, 08 - 09:06 pm Comment from: Falkirk

Here's what is going to happen. Apple will not deliver the new iPhones until the fall. And despite the fact that Apple made no public announcements or promises, the pundits will spend the next four months criticizing Apple for being "overdue", "late", "tardy", "incompetent", etc. for their "failure" to deliver the iPhone on time. Sigh.

Apr 01, 08 - 09:33 pm Comment from: Rob

Or maybe just the current models sell like hot cakes and Apple cannot keep up with the ever increasing demand.

And if this turns out to be true... anyone interested in buying 8G iPhone in good condition?

Apr 01, 08 - 09:42 pm Comment from: emjoi via iPodDailyNews

It will all happen in a nice neat June event with the opening of the App Store and Firmware 2.0 and the non-beta SDK, and a bunch of cool applications.

A big song and dance that will get plastered in newspapers, magazines and Tech Blogs everywhere.

One Big Blast, rather than trickling out bits and pieces.
No point releasing the Phone with a promise of Cool Things in a month or two. That's never impressive.

Apr 01, 08 - 10:50 pm Comment from: telephone Junkie

Apple would do well to get a new phone out by Mother's Day. That way you get Mother's Day, Father's Day and Graduation to sell new phones as gifts. After that, there's no big gift giving event other than "because I wanted to" until Xmas. Well, there are birthdays but those are random.

I don't know about the FCC thing but if it's a variation of the current phone then I don't think they'll need it. They didn't need it to do a 16GB phone, did they?

Apr 01, 08 - 11:02 pm Comment from: silverhawk

Hey Bob,

Go jump off a tall building please.

Apr 02, 08 - 01:24 am Comment from: @eMax

Hahaha. Your comment is the first one that I actually LOL on MDN.

Apr 02, 08 - 02:52 am Comment from: @ @eMax

I/ You must be new here. -Welcome.
2/ You are easily pleased. -Welcome, I like you already.
3/ Laughing out loud on the WibberlyWobberlyWhoopsie would look like this -

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Apr 02, 08 - 06:09 am Comment from: Ray

SJ needs something to talk about at the WWDC keynote.

Just my $0.02

Apr 02, 08 - 09:31 am Comment from: sbelvueen

Well All speculation aside...I have been looking the iphone over for a while and I'm looking forward to a the release of 3G technology....
But the comment of Bob jumping off a building really made me laugh....thanks...from Kabul afghanistan

Apr 02, 08 - 11:12 am Comment from: Blue Dream

If 20 stores are sold out now, then by Tuesday or Wednesday of next week, 50 stores will be sold out...perfect for a surprise new release amidst all the pumped up aura of speculation. AAPL will be up. Problem is, if they don't deliver next week, it will be even more disappointing than Blackberry's
9000 iPhone Clone and AAPL will drop. Apple always wins with the speculation hype with tons of free advertisement. DELIVER and we love you yet even more!! To really get real...Apple is a premisquous tramp and we love her as long as she keeps delivering.

Apr 02, 08 - 11:26 am Comment from: Long duc Dong

How bout Tuesday, June 24 2008?

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