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512 MB Ram!!! in the graphics card. That's pretty serious. It's like an iMac Pro

-Pi

Apr 28, 08 - 08:43 am Comment from: eyerhyme

But still the Canadian customer gets screwed with $100 extra fee!! WTF?!! I'm so tired of this! Our dollar is at par or over the US and we have to pay $100 MORE? Yeah... we have a fair and democratic country... whatever.

Neat! Yeah.... that's what I think!

I was hoping we'd see a bump on the Mini as well.. Oh well, there's always the WWDC...

The snappiest iMac ... ever.

uhmm every new iMac is the snappiest ever....until it's then updated.... sucks for my friend he just bought a new iMac a week ago.

They could have offered us real improvements in the display as well, but it looks like it's just a simple move to Penryn. There's no improvement in the 20" display technology, which I care about most, and no non-glossy option for those who want it.

BTW, Happy 5th Birthday iTunes Store......

Apr 28, 08 - 09:07 am Comment from: jonahan

jtc I believe he can return it for the new one he has 14 days i think.

Canada has to pay more because they complain so much... So try the UK where we pay $500 above the US price.


Question I have, is the screen now the same in the 20" as the 24"?

And just in time for the stimulus tax rebate checks which start May 2. Coincidence???...I don't care! "The kids need one for school...really honey, they do!"

Canada should go on strike.

Apr 28, 08 - 09:15 am Comment from: Harvey

You don't get the two USB ports on the keyboard unless you plug it into one of the three ports on the back of the iMac. So don't expect to plug in five devices after you've plugged in the keyboard. Only four of the five ports are available.

That's the question to ask: is it the same 20" screen as before.

Since the iMac prior to this release has MXM expansion slot video card and a socketed CPU, can the "old" aluminum iMac be upgraded with the new bits?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Apr 28, 08 - 09:23 am Comment from: Rich Apple person

Not a bad refresh but nothing to make me give up my 24" 2.8 iMac for. I expect another refresh later this year and next year a design refresh with new keyboard that includes trackpad just like the notebooks. Nice to see the improvement in video card.

I wish everyone would stop wining about a non-glossy option. There is no way Apple is going to make a non-glossy iMac. It would require a redesign of the entire unit. The LCD sits behind glass, its not just some coating on the screen.

According to the specs, the 20" shows TFT, 160 degrees of viewability, just like the last version. So it appears to be the same display technology which some of us have complained about. To me, this - more than the glossiness - is the real problem.

Apr 28, 08 - 09:43 am Comment from: Buster

@Jim
Good ideaa....Lets stop exporting maple syrup to the states....and pigs feet and seal jerky pepperettes and....all episodes of Corner gas!

That'll show'em

Apr 28, 08 - 09:45 am Comment from: CheekyGit

I'll take 2 24" iMacs to go, please.

Apr 28, 08 - 09:51 am Comment from: since1985

ChrisM: you're on the mark

Hey, Steve did say we were going to get 3ghz, right? 3 years or not, I welcome it.

Apr 28, 08 - 09:57 am Comment from: MaLvado

1066 MHz frontside bus... but memory stays at 800 MHz?

I hope you can do a 3rd party switch to match the bus speed.

The $400 difference between 24" models is composed of:
$200 for the slightly faster CPU
$150 for the better graphics card
$50 for the larger hard drive

Each are available as BTO options on the cheaper model, so if you just want to add the 8800 for $150 to the $1799 model you can do so.

Interestingly, the Core 2 Extreme option is gone. The unsold Core 2 extreme stock is on the clearance section for $1599; if you don't want the 8800 for games, that's a pretty damned enticing option there.

@eyerhyme:

The extra money probably is due to Canada's import duties, as well as the national taxes - GST and HST, which don't exist in the US. This also explains the difference between the US and the UK cost - 17.5% VAT,

The new iMac. The snappiest all-in-one ever!™

Glossy is Good. But is the 20-incher's display now better?

Apr 28, 08 - 10:17 am Comment from: Lanzarote

I'm waiting for a new MacMini.
TOMORROW please.

It's great that they finally offer the top graphics chip as a BTO option on the 24 incher!

Wish they would offer it as a BTO option on the 20 incher as well.

Heck, I wish they would offer any kind of BTO graphics option on the Mini as well. That machine would be a lot more enticing.

What, no mini??

Please Apple, please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Apr 28, 08 - 10:38 am Comment from: iamdj

What about the CHEAP displays in the 20". Did they go back to the higher quality display?

Buster, can we still get "The Red Green Show?" I love that program, it's so funny.

Apr 28, 08 - 10:47 am Comment from: DogGone

The iMac going to 3GHz is pretty cool.

I still would like nothing but screen on the front. It wouldn't matter to me if the unit was a bit thicker. The only problem would be where would Apple put their logo

When did Apple get sane with memory upgrade prices? To go from 2gig to 4gig is only $200.

Apr 28, 08 - 11:02 am Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ Buster

As long as The Kids in the Hall are still in Seattle on 5/15, no one gets hurt. Don't make me come up there.

Apr 28, 08 - 11:14 am Comment from: Buster

Yup....RedGreen still exists on CBC

DuctTape forever.......

http://www.cbc.ca/programguide/program/index.jsp?program=The+Red+Green+Show

Apr 28, 08 - 11:16 am Comment from: Tommy Boy

Now could Apple please update their frickin' cinema displays?!

Apr 28, 08 - 11:18 am Comment from: Buster

Oddly enough Canada has always been a great source for comics..from Second city TV (John Cnady, Rick Moranis, Eugene Levy) to Kids in the Hall.

@C1...ever see the Rick Mercer Report. He did some episodes earlier on 'Talking to Americans'.....priceless.

Apr 28, 08 - 11:42 am Comment from: wannabe

If anything Apple is likely to drop the matte option on their pro laptops within a year or so. When they do, I hope they will include a piece of steel wool in the box, so that people who insist on a "matte" display can scratch up the nice glossy surface themselves.

Apr 28, 08 - 11:56 am Comment from: Lilochris

Honestly, I think the most important thing apple should update is those Low Grade LCD's they put in the Generation iMac.

Wonder of They changed that in here?

kind of a bummer that the 8800 isn't availble on the 20" model...

@Daily Reader

hahaha.... funny guy.

How can I use multi-touch with an iMac? Is there a keyboard with an incorporated multi-touch trackpad?

Apr 28, 08 - 01:11 pm Comment from: KingMel

@ MaLvado

I recently upgraded my 24" iMac that I purchased in November to 4GB. The previous generation iMac uses 667MHz SO-DIMMs (PC-5300 notebook memory, same as the MacBook Pro), so they did increase the memory speed (to 800MHz) along with the frontside bus speed (to 1066 MHz).

I don't see anything in this incremental update that gives me buyer's remorse regarding the previous generation iMac. Apple is attempting to getter differentiate the high end 24" iMac by bundling a substantial graphics card upgrade into the mix, and not just a bit of clock speed and a larger HDD.

Still a great buy, IMO. Wonderful desktop computer.

The iMac is a great machine, but I'd like two swappable internal drives. Hard drives will fail, as will the iMac eventually - most probably after your AppleCare runs out.

1) When a drive fails, swap it with a new drive and sledgehammer the old drive.

2) When the Mac fails, get a new one - it's poor economics to fix an obsolete machine.

3) Recycle the old Mac and sledgehammer its original drive.

4) If you plan to burn a lot of dvds, use a good quality external burner and save the super drive for more mundane tasks.

Those are my new rules for post OS 8 Macs (all my pre OS 9 Macs still work; all my post OS 8 Macs failed after three years).

Your mileage might vary.

As O!44Port is a Canadian, she wrote the CEO to suggest prices closer to parity. Apple listened, and cut the price spread substantially on hardware. A price spread of $100 on hardware is not unreasonable in light of currency risks and the need to have bilingual operations to suit the language fascists. (Yesterday the PQ announced they were going to require small business to follow an enhanced Bill 101 and make them comply with their compulsory francization program, which is why fascist is not a strong word to describe the PQ leader et al). And, Apple reduced the software cost and the dot Mac cost to Canadians to parity. Within a month of O!44Port's letter.

"eyerhyme
But still the Canadian customer gets screwed with $100 extra fee!! WTF?!! I'm so tired of this! Our dollar is at par or over the US and we have to pay $100 MORE? Yeah... we have a fair and democratic country... whatever."
"The extra money probably is due to Canada's import duties, as well as the national taxes - GST and HST, which don't exist in the US. This also explains the difference between the US and the UK cost - 17.5% VAT,"

It always looks fair from the inside. Hey, all those taxes, you gays get free healthcare, free gas, free rent? Eh?

You carazy Canukian you!

NAFTA... North American Free Trade Agreement ? R u sure canada has to pay import taxes ?

And GST / PST are not included in the prices so it doesn't make a difference

Glare from the iMac will likely be a problem in an office situation. But...

Most iMacs are used in a home office/bedroom/familyroom situation — these rooms typically don't suffer from florescent lighting. The gloss screen actually is beneficial.

In my setup, it looks brilliant. Every bit as crisp as a CRT. YMMV. Whatevahhh.

I'm off to lunch — a nuked enchilada that's as hot as the sun.

It's snappy but it won't blend.