“The new MacBook Pro is as advanced on the inside as it is stunning on the outside,” said Philip Schiller, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing, in the press release. “With faster processors, amazing graphics and up to three more hours of battery life, the new MacBook Pro delivers both performance and efficiency.”
All 13-inch MacBook Pro models now include faster Intel Core 2 Duo processors, 4GB RAM, a 10-hour built-in battery and the new NVIDIA GeForce 320M graphics processor. With 48 processing cores, the new NVIDIA GeForce 320M is the fastest integrated graphics processor on the market, ideal for graphics intensive applications or high performance games. The 13-inch MacBook Pro is available in two configurations: one with a 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo and 250GB hard drive priced at $1,199; and one with a 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo and 320GB hard drive priced at $1,499.
The new 15-inch and 17-inch MacBook Pro models are up to 50 percent faster than the previous systems. Using Intel’s state-of-the-art 32 nanometer process, Intel Core i5 and i7 processors integrate the memory controller and Level 3 cache for faster access to system memory. Hyper-Threading technology improves data throughput by creating virtual processing cores, while Turbo Boost optimizes performance between the two processor cores, accelerating the system from 2.66 GHz to 3.06 GHz for intensive dual core tasks, and up to 3.33 GHz for single core tasks.
All 15-inch and 17-inch models include two graphics processors, the new NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M for peak performance and Intel HD Graphics for energy efficient operation. More than twice as fast as the GeForce 320M, the powerful new GeForce GT 330M provides incredibly smooth, crisp on-screen graphics for the most demanding 3D games, creative software and technical applications. Apple’s automatic graphics switching determines which graphics processor an application needs and switches instantly between processors to deliver peak performance and long battery life. Tightly integrated hardware and software allow the new 15-inch and 17-inch MacBook Pro to deliver 8 to 9 hours on a single charge.
The new 15-inch MacBook Pro is available in three models: one with a 2.4 GHz Intel Core i5, NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M and 320GB hard drive at $1,799; one with a 2.53 GHz Intel Core i5, NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M and 500GB hard drive at $1,999; and one with a 2.66 GHz Intel Core i7, NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M and 500GB hard drive at $2,199. The new 17-inch MacBook Pro features a 2.53 GHz Intel Core i5, NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M and 500GB hard drive for $2,299.
The MacBook Pro glass Multi-Touch™ trackpad now supports inertial scrolling, an intuitive way to scroll through large photo libraries, lengthy documents and long web sites. All MacBook Pros feature bright, LED-backlit wide-angle displays with a broad color gamut. The 17-inch MacBook Pro includes a high resolution 1920 x 1200 display, and the 15-inch MacBook Pro is now available with an optional high resolution 1680 x 1050 display. Customers can also upgrade their MacBook Pro with new 128GB, 256GB and 512GB solid state drives.
As the industry’s greenest notebook lineup, every Mac notebook achieves EPEAT Gold status and meets Energy Star 5.0 requirements, setting a new standard for environmentally friendly notebook design. Each unibody enclosure is made of highly recyclable aluminum and comes standard with energy efficient LED-backlit displays that are mercury-free and made with arsenic-free glass. Mac notebooks contain no brominated flame retardants, are PVC-free and are constructed of recyclable materials.
Apple uses advanced chemistry, intelligent monitoring of the system and battery, and Adaptive Charging technology to create a notebook battery that delivers up to 10 hours of wireless productivity on a single charge and up to 1,000 recharges. The built-in battery design results in less waste and depleted batteries can be replaced for $129 or $179, which includes installation and disposal of your old battery in an environmentally responsible manner. A properly maintained MacBook Pro battery is designed to retain 80 percent or more of its original capacity during a lifespan of up to 1,000 recharge cycles. Battery life and charge cycles vary by use and settings. For more information visit www.apple.com/macbookpro/battery.
All Macs come with Mac OS X Snow Leopard, the world’s most advanced operating system, and iLife, Apple’s innovative suite of applications for managing photos, making movies and creating and learning to play music. Snow Leopard builds on a decade of OS X innovation and success with hundreds of refinements, new core technologies and out of the box support for Microsoft Exchange. iLife features iPhoto, to easily organize and manage photos; iMovie® with powerful easy-to-use new features such as Precision Editor, video stabilization and advanced drag and drop; and GarageBand® which introduces a whole new way to help you learn to play piano and guitar.
The new 13-inch MacBook Pro, 15-inch MacBook Pro, and 17-inch MacBook Pro are now available through the Apple Store, Apple’s retail stores and Apple Authorized Resellers.
The 2.4 GHz, 13-inch MacBook Pro, for a suggested retail price of US$1,199, includes:
• 13.3-inch widescreen LED-backlit 1280 x 800 glossy display
• 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 3MB shared L2 cache
• 1066 MHz front-side bus
• 4GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM, expandable to 8GB
• NVIDIA GeForce 320M integrated graphics
• 250GB serial ATA hard drive running at 5400 rpm, with Sudden Motion Sensor
• a slot-load 8X SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+/-R DL/DVD+/-RW/CD-RW) optical drive
• Mini DisplayPort (VGA, DVI and HDMI adapters sold separately)
• AirPort Extreme 802.11n wireless networking and Bluetooth 2.1+EDR
• Gigabit Ethernet port
• iSight video camera
• two USB 2.0 ports
• one FireWire 800 port (FireWire 400 compatible)
• SD card slot
• combined headphone/line in (analog/digital)
• glass Multi-Touch trackpad and illuminated keyboard
• built-in, 63.5WHr lithium polymer battery
• 60 Watt MagSafe Power Adapter
The 2.66 GHz, 13-inch MacBook Pro, for a suggested retail price of $1,499, includes:
• 13.3-inch widescreen LED-backlit 1280 x 800 glossy display
• 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 3MB shared L2 cache
• 1066 MHz front-side bus
• 4GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM, expandable to 8GB
• NVIDIA GeForce 320M integrated graphics
• 320GB serial ATA hard drive running at 5400 rpm, with Sudden Motion Sensor
• a slot-load 8X SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+/-R DL/DVD+/-RW/CD-RW) optical drive
• Mini DisplayPort (VGA, DVI and HDMI adapters sold separately)
• AirPort Extreme 802.11n wireless networking and Bluetooth 2.1+EDR
• Gigabit Ethernet port
• iSight video camera
• two USB 2.0 ports
• one FireWire 800 port (FireWire 400 compatible)
• SD card slot
• combined headphone/line in (analog/digital)
• glass Multi-Touch trackpad and illuminated keyboard
• built-in, 63.5WHr lithium polymer battery
• 60 Watt MagSafe Power Adapter
Build-to-order options for the 13-inch MacBook Pro include the ability to upgrade to 8GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM, a 320GB 5400 rpm or a 500GB 5400 rpm hard drive, a 128GB, 256GB or 512GB solid state drive, Mini DisplayPort to DVI Adapter, Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter (for 30-inch DVI display), Mini DisplayPort to VGA Adapter, Apple Remote, Apple MagSafe Airline Adapter and the AppleCare Protection Plan.
The 2.4 GHz, 15-inch MacBook Pro, for a suggested retail price of $1,799, includes:
• 15.4-inch widescreen LED-backlit 1440 x 900 glossy display
• 2.4 GHz Intel Core i5 with 3MB shared L3 cache
• 4GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM, expandable to 8GB
• integrated Intel HD Graphics + NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M discrete graphics with 256MB of VRAM
• 320GB serial ATA hard drive running at 5400 rpm, with Sudden Motion Sensor
• a slot-load 8X SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+/-R DL/DVD+/-RW/CD-RW) optical drive
• Mini DisplayPort (VGA, DVI and HDMI adapters sold separately)
• AirPort Extreme 802.11n wireless networking and Bluetooth 2.1+EDR
• Gigabit Ethernet port
• iSight video camera
• two USB 2.0 ports
• one FireWire 800 port
• SD card slot
• audio line in (analog/digital)
• audio line out/headphone (analog/digital)
• glass Multi-Touch trackpad and illuminated keyboard
• built-in, 77.5WHr lithium polymer battery
• 85 Watt MagSafe Power Adapter
The 2.53 GHz, 15-inch MacBook Pro, for a suggested retail price of $1,999, includes:
• 15.4-inch widescreen LED-backlit 1440 x 900 glossy display
• 2.53 GHz Intel Core i5 with 3MB shared L3 cache
• 4GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM, expandable to 8GB
• integrated Intel HD Graphics + NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M discrete graphics with 256MB of VRAM
• 500GB serial ATA hard drive running at 5400 rpm, with Sudden Motion Sensor
• a slot-load 8X SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+/-R DL/DVD+/-RW/CD-RW) optical drive
• Mini DisplayPort (VGA, DVI and HDMI adapters sold separately)
• AirPort Extreme 802.11n wireless networking and Bluetooth 2.1+EDR
• Gigabit Ethernet port
• iSight video camera
• two USB 2.0 ports
• one FireWire 800 port
• SD card slot
• audio line in (analog/digital)
• audio line out/headphone (analog/digital)
• glass Multi-Touch trackpad and illuminated keyboard
• built-in, 77.5WHr lithium polymer battery
• 85 Watt MagSafe Power Adapter
The 2.66 GHz, 15-inch MacBook Pro, for a suggested retail price of $2,199, includes:
• 15.4-inch widescreen LED-backlit 1440 x 900 glossy display
• 2.66 GHz Intel Core i7 with 4MB shared L3 cache
• 4GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM, expandable to 8GB
• integrated Intel HD Graphics + NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M discrete graphics with 512MB of VRAM
• 500GB serial ATA hard drive running at 5400 rpm, with Sudden Motion Sensor
• a slot-load 8X SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+/-R DL/DVD+/-RW/CD-RW) optical drive
• Mini DisplayPort (VGA, DVI and HDMI adapters sold separately)
• AirPort Extreme 802.11n wireless networking and Bluetooth 2.1+EDR
• Gigabit Ethernet port
• iSight video camera
• two USB 2.0 ports
• one FireWire 800 port
• SD card slot
• audio line in (analog/digital)
• audio line out/headphone (analog/digital)
• glass Multi-Touch trackpad and illuminated keyboard
• built-in, 77.5WHr lithium polymer battery
• 85 Watt MagSafe Power Adapter
Build-to-order options for the 15-inch MacBook Pro include the ability to upgrade to 8GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM, a high resolution 15-inch 1680 x 1050 display in glossy and antiglare, a 500GB 5400 rpm or 500GB 7200 rpm hard drive, a 128GB, 256GB or 512GB solid state drive, Mini DisplayPort to DVI Adapter, Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter (for 30-inch DVI display), Mini DisplayPort to VGA Adapter, Apple Remote, Apple MagSafe Airline Adapter and the AppleCare Protection Plan.
The 2.53 GHz, 17-inch MacBook Pro, for a suggested retail price of $2,299, includes:
• 17-inch widescreen LED-backlit 1920 x 1200, glossy display
• 2.53 GHz Intel Core i5 with 3MB shared L3 cache
• 4GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM, expandable to 8GB
• integrated Intel HD Graphics + NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M discrete graphics with 512MB of VRAM
• 500GB serial ATA hard drive running at 5400 rpm, with Sudden Motion Sensor
• a slot-load 8X SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+/-R DL/DVD+/-RW/CD-RW) optical drive
• Mini DisplayPort (VGA, DVI and HDMI adapters sold separately)
• AirPort Extreme 802.11n wireless networking and Bluetooth 2.1+EDR
• Gigabit Ethernet port
• iSight video camera
• three USB 2.0 ports
• one FireWire 800 port (FireWire 400 compatible)
• ExpressCard/34 expansion card slot
• audio line in (analog/digital)
• audio line out/headphone (analog/digital)
• glass Multi-Touch trackpad and illuminated keyboard
• built-in, 95WHr lithium polymer battery
• 85 Watt MagSafe Power Adapter
Build-to-order options for the 17-inch MacBook Pro include a 2.66 GHz Intel Core i7 processor, 8GB 1066 MHz DDR3 memory, a 500GB 7200 rpm hard drive, a 128GB, 256GB or 512GB solid state drive, antiglare display, Mini DisplayPort to DVI Adapter, Mini DisplayPort to Dual- Link DVI Adapter (for 30-inch DVI display), Mini DisplayPort to VGA Adapter, Apple Remote, Apple MagSafe Airline Adapter and the AppleCare Protection Plan.
Source: Apple Inc.
Yeessssssssssssss!!!!!!
LET THE MOANING BEGIN.
Круто, чё! ))
Any news on availability in Europe?
@ Шурик That goes double for me !!!
Well, there is only a $50 penalty for being Canadian on the 13″ MBP.
Once again, the 13″ gets the shaft from Apple. I don’t want another 15″. I want to downsize. Why the hell doesn’t the 13″ get the i5 or i7? What are you thinking Apple?
My name is Larry Breeden, and I work for Government Computer News and I know mobile batteries. There is “no way” that these Macbook Pro’s can have 10 hour battery life, just no way.
What’s that? I said the same thing about the iPad? Oh well, as Emily Litella once said, “Never Mind”
I meant to say my name is John Breeden. It’s embarrassing that I can’t even remember my own name!
If you didn’t notice you can also get the 15″ with an optional 1680×1050 display now!
Antiglare is available on all 15″ and 17″ as BTO–hurray!
Go Apple!
I also need to downsize, even from a 13″; and the iPad won’t do for me. Oh well, I’ll keep using me 12″ G4 iBook.
What about the macbook?
is anyone even buying the macbook air?
Every time Apple does this, I wish they would offer trade ins. But my current MBP meets my needs just fine, it is only lust that makes me want the latest and greatest.
Highly refined and total class, that’s all I have to say…
jocknerd: Once again, the 13″ gets the shaft from Apple. I don’t want another 15″. I want to downsize. Why the hell doesn’t the 13″ get the i5 or i7? What are you thinking Apple?
Most likely it’s due to power draw and cost. The 10 hours battery capacity would almost certainly be impossible with the i5 / i7 configurations in the 13″ with its smaller battery.
The i5 / i7 seem to be the dual-core variants with an integrated Intel graphics core replacing the other two cores which a i5 / i7 could have otherwise.
The interesting thing is that Apple actually manages to run a heterogeneous hybrid configuration of Intel and NVIDIA GPUs. That is quite a neat feat.
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Note: Still no USB3, but with the existing Intel chip sets at this point that was unfortunately to be expected.
All in all a nice upgrade, again optimized for practical usability instead of top performance (quad core i5 / i7 + massive GPU in a brick-like case like some of the competing PC notebooks).
Was hoping for at least the Nvidia 350M, but overall the lines got a nice refresh.
Overpriced machines… Apples insane
No USB 3 on a “pro” labtop?? WTF??
where is my 3g ipad? any news on apple releasing date?
I have had 1680×1050 on my work Thinkpad T60 for over 4 years now. It’s about time!
Even I like Apple’s hardware, but their prices are still too high. I can’t recommend a 15″ to anyone at almost $2K. There are a lot of poor-quality Windows notebooks out there with 15″ screens at much lower prices. You’d think Apple could get close the gap a little. Even at $1199 I won’t be buying a MBP anytime soon.
@ Boy
Ever hear the phrase You get what you pay for?
Buttttt does it have a camoaaa?
Whaaaa
the 15″ price seems very much in line with the Dell i-5 15″ offerings…which appear to be only in the precision line of laptops…tweak a HD size here, memory there – pretty much same machine; the outliers are the diff in graphics “cards” and value of 10 hr battery;
I like the fact that the 17″ gets all the upgrades including the quad core i5 and the price DROPS $200! Looks like a pretty nice gaming laptop.
It’s amazing to see a MacBook Pro 13 that has the same clock speed, 2.66 ghz, same amount of memory 4g and same hard drive 320g as my old Mac Pro tower. And the MacBook video card is probably way better than the old ATI card in my tower. And all for $1499; over $1000 less than my tower was.
I don’t “need” any of these… don’t “need” an iPad… don’t… neeeed….don’t…….buy….must….resist…arg
Realistsun: No USB 3 on a “pro” labtop?? WTF??
Current Intel chipsets for the Nehalem architecture unfortunately have only crippled PCIe ports, so it comes down to either crippling the GPU connection (diverting some of the only full PCIe 2.0 lanes available) or to fiddle with kludgy PCIe multi-lane adapter solutions in order to get USB3 at least halfway to its capability.
Intel has screwed the pooch on that – it seems they’re betting on people first paying for new systems due to the Nehalem CPU performance increase and then all over again when they finally deign to release another set of CPUs and chipsets which actually have full USB3 support.
Not much Apple could do there without making major compromises at this point.
MDN word: past – as in: reminds me of the…
Flush loaded sd card? That’s likely the biggest error I’ve noticed. That sd card should not stick out. Fortunately, it’s of little consequence as I likely (mdn mw: Very Ironic!!) won’t be getting a new laptop anyway ;(
Still bangin’ away on the original Intel MacBook Pro 15″ (2.16 Core Duo equipped; not even Core 2 Duo).
The machine is still awesome—all original components. Use it everyday. Yeah. You get what you pay for. I don’t mind paying the price when I can still be a completely satisfied daily user of the product 4 years after purchase.
@Boy
“You’d think Apple could get close the gap a little. Even at $1199 I won’t be buying a MBP anytime soon.”
Yeah, I hear you. I wish Mercedes and BMW would close the price gap and compete a little better with Hyundai.
Hear me now, listen to me one day next week:
PC=CAR (for your average moron)
MAC=EXPERTLY ENGINEERED AUTOMOBILE (made for the moron with better taste and extra cash)
But no four core processors? What gives?!!
@Orenokotodaze,
If you’re using a G4 iBook every day, you sure as hell don’t need an i5 – a Core 2 Duo would be more than fine. For Pete’s sake, go ahead and upgrade! Pick up a refurb 13″ C2D MacBook and don’t look back – it’s a FAR superior machine in every way to your old iBook.
@ jocknerd;
One of Apple’s biggest Macbook customers is education.
Edu requires, above all else, a low price tag.
I own the previous generation MacBook Pro. My daughter just cracked the hinge on my laptop yesterday. Is that a hint to upgrade?
It’s a shame the 15 inch lower end version went up to 1799.
I really want Apple to continue to pressure the other PC makers. Gradually lowering the price (whilst maintaining profitability) is the smart way to do it.
Probably these new chips are more expensive and it will take 6 months for the price to drop.
Get ’em while you can. From here on, it’s all iPad all the time.
Want proof: these upgrades are small stuff missing essential next generation features.
Last word: when will Steve Jobs retract his edict – “Everyone wants glossy” – apparently the company has now fully confirmed that this command from the most high did not change the world.
Oh Great!!!
Now it’s $150 more for the anti-glare screen.
A$$-holes!
My friend Tom just bought two MacbookPros, three weeks ago. He didn’t tell until after he bought them. I would have said, “Wait for a month.” Does he have any recourse with Apple?
@ Realistsun – Once again, you confirm my theory that anyone who feels compelled to put “reality” or “realist” in their online user name, is also strangely compelled to hold a completely unrealistic viewpoint.
@ Numbered Days – That’s right, just keep trying to spread that FUD. But Apple’s Bugs Bunny will always defeat your Elmer FUD.
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Mr. Matte: Oh Great!!!
Now it’s $150 more for the anti-glare screen.
No. It’s $100 for the upgrade to the higher-resolution screen and just $50 on top of that for the matte option.
Mr. Matte: A$$-holes!
Projecting much…?
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It’s still $50.
You also get the high resolution screen.
who’s the A$$-hole now?
@ Mr. Matte It would have been nice to get the anti-glare, with out the hi res screen. I’ll know by Apr. 16 – 22 if its worth it.
Notice that Apple isn’t even featuring it on their home page – it’s at the bottom just below the magical device that will replace real computers like the MBP.
What’s the deal with the iMacs now? The “normal” sized one seems really outdated compared to these.
@NCIceman – trade ins are easy to do – try selling your existing machine on Craigslist, through a local user group, or thru the local want ads.
Example – my dad has a MBP 15 2.16. He wants a faster machine. Found a 2.5 GHz MBP 15 on Craigslist for $1150 (still under Applecare extended warranty). Selling his machine to a co-worker for $700. For $450 he gets a faster machine – $235 more to add a bigger drive and more RAM.
Yes Macs are more expensive, but they retain trade in value.
@@ Mr Matte
$150 for the higher resolution no glare
Solid upgrades.
No ExpressCard restoration in the 15-incher. Bummer, but I can deal with it.
15″ i7 with h-res anti-glare display, 500GB x 7200rpm hard drive and 8GB RAM for me! What’s there not to love about it?
To all fanboys…
Bottom line is that I’m still $150 down to get an anti-glare screen.
It once was free (no matter what resolution).
I love all the great stuff Steve has done, but he still can be off on some things. No one is perfect (except for the fanboys).
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What a joke…
For what you get for the money you spend on these new updates is preposterous.. aside from the increased battery life, there really is nothing to rave about…
I just bought a Asus G73JH-A2 w/ Core i7-720QM, 8GB, 1TB 7200 RPM drive, DVD+/-RW, 17.3in Full HD, Radeon HD 5870, Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit for just under $1700 Canadian which included a back pack and gaming mouse … I sold my October 09 Macbook, sick of the slower than windows 7 OS and the heat too …
My ASUS has a better graphics chip, does not heat up like the Macbook ( I swear I had a waffle iron sitting on my lap at times), it has the heating vents out of the back and Windows 7 does not have the habit of OS X which has the spinning beach ball occur more every-time a new Snow Leopard update comes out.. and the new stealth look of Asus looks great and is a durable rubberized finish…
My point is that Macbook Pros are way over priced and they need to change their ways as in offer more for the money people are spending if they want to truly got a larger market share for their laptops…
Updated the prices too!… Too sad!…
Mr. Matte: To all fanboys…
You’re in no position to “fanboy” anyone – you were just glossing over a rather salient difference there.
Mr. Matte: Bottom line is that I’m still $150 down to get an anti-glare screen.
No. You’re down $100 for the higher resolution and $50 for the matte option.
Mr. Matte: It once was free (no matter what resolution).
No. Higher resolution options never came for free.
@ edcalgary Looks like your Asus is a great cumputer, but how long will it last and what is support like.
Ianthony58 wrote:
@ edcalgary Looks like your Asus is a great cumputer, but how long will it last and what is support like.
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Actually ASUS support is quite good , it has
“A two year global warranty: You can receive free service on your notebook at ASUS service centers worldwide for two years from your date of purchase.
The ASUS Accidental Damage Warranty (ADW) protects ASUS-branded notebook computers from accidental damage incurred from electrical surges, fire, drops, and spills.It covers the notebook itself and any built-in or onto-the-base accessories – FREE of charge.It is a one-year warranty, extending for one year from the date of purchase.One incident per laptop
A zero bright dot guaranty: If your LCD displays even a single bright dot within 30 days of purchase, ASUS will replace your notebook’s entire screen.
Free two-way shipping: If your notebook needs service, We offer 2 way free shipping via FedEx over 2000 stations in the US. In Canada, call for pickup from your business or residence to our Canada Service Center and we will delivery your notebook back to the you with free of charge .
Twenty-four hour tech support seven days per week: Our customer service professionals are there to service you at all times (Holidays excepted) . “
as opposed to paying an extra $399 for the AppleCare Protection Plan…
Answer your question..???
@edcalgary
Granted, that’s some nice powerful hardware for the money, but 8.5 lbs! Holy gorilla arms, Batman. Nothing “stealth” about that. If you didn’t like having a waffle iron on your lap, I wonder how you’ll like a boat anchor. And, “rubberized finish”… over plastic. Unspecified battery life – you’ll be lucky to get 3 hours. Plus, it’s Windows. Don’t know what you’re referring to about spinning beachballs – I rarely see ’em on my ’08 MBP – but you’re bound to get familiar with the Win equivalent when the AV software kicks in. ‘Nuff said.
It’s $50. Suck it up and go glossy, pay it, or piss off to hackintosh / windows / linux.
When you called it out as a $150 upgrade i went and checked as I’ve been waiting to upgrade my 17. It’s listed as a $50 upgrade on the 17.
Would like to have seen USB 3.0 ports.
“Still bangin’ away on the original Intel MacBook Pro 15″ (2.16 Core Duo equipped; not even Core 2 Duo).”
Hell, I’m still bangin’ away on the PowerBook G4 every day and it works great.
I too once used to be a Macphile and brainwashed and could not see past anything that was APPLE until I saw that Windows 7 is a vast improvement over Vista or XP, is actually better than OS X now and saw that I could get a better value with a PC laptop and still walk out the store after buying it with money in my money..
As far as battery life goes, most people are actually near a power supply so your point is mute…
And the Macbook has a non replaceable battery and is only good for 1000 charges and then you have to pay 200 bucks to have a new one put in…..another marketing grab for Apple to get more money as it was better when you could buy a battery and replace them on the earlier versions of the Macbooks…
It is pure economics as opposed to having the mindset that Apple is the end all and be all of laptops …
“It’s a shame the 15 inch lower end version went up to 1799.
I really want Apple to continue to pressure the other PC makers [by] gradually lowering the price […]”
Previously, the low end 15″ had the guts of a 13″, but in a larger package- it didn’t even have a discrete GPU. This time, you get an i5 and a discrete GPU in the base 15″ model.
Consider this:
Perhaps Apple did not raise the price of the $1699 model. Perhaps Apple removed the $1699 model from the product line, and lowered the price of the $1999 model to $1799. Thank you, Apple!
MDN MW: paid
To everyone else: “No i5 in the 13″!!”
Go file system check yourselves. =]
Do you want a complimentary heat dispersion brick for that laptop?
When is my 2.8 TeraHz MBP with the 1067 GHz FSB and the 8 PetaB SSD coming, Apple!? I’m WAITING! What— a cooling tower? No! I don’t want that! Just give me the fscking 2.8— wait, no. You know what? Make it it THREE terahertz and I might forgive you, Apple… but only if it has turboboost capable of 4 THz.
Wow, Aperture performs at a mind-boggling 1.1x faster.
Hold on to your hat!!!!
@edcalgary’s “(Apple) need(s) to change their ways…offer more for the money…if they want to truly (get) a larger market share for their laptops…”
13″ MacBook Pro…$1199.
15″ MacBook Pro…$1799.
17″ MacBook Pro…$2299.
Asus G73JH…blah-blah–WhosinWhatsisCrap…sub $1700
Not having to use Windows…Priceless.
So you can take your market share and…well…actually you can take it to the bank, I guess..?
“We don nit no stinkin’ market share”
@edcalgary
“And the Macbook has a non replaceable battery and is only good for 1000 charges and then you have to pay 200 bucks to have a new one put in…”
Haha! Yeah, that certainly is some big-dirty-evil marketing scheme!
Good thing your “lite” laptop doesn’t need a battery, cause you’re always hooked-up to a powerplant. : )
Er, ed:
It’s moot, not mute.
Ignorance aside, who brainwashed you??!??!??
How is someone brainwashed by a computer manufacturer???
Now you’re here -on an Apple fan site- to bleat about it??
Why?
What a clown.
@ edcalgary
“and the new stealth look of Asus looks great and is a durable rubberized finish…”
Nah, you may well be right about everything else, but if you think that is looking great, you probably think probably think pimping your ride with go faster stripes and stuck on plastic accessories is cool…
…It is one ugly mutha…
What kind of Loser, who owns a Windows laptop and who likes it, hangs around a Mac News article forum?
You have to be real lonely and devoid of any kind of life in order to get some kind of negative attention by attacking the enemy camp.
Sad actually.
Hey Figurative…
This “loser” has a better system and more money is their pocket and back up his statements with facts rather than insults..
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@edcalgary
If you’re so happy, then just run along and go play with your Winduhz…… of course after you install your fortress of protection and until it gets a virus or compromised anyway, or slows down or blue screens. Glad you enjoy it.
I’m too busy for that garbage.
I posted this morning (second post to appear) about lack of USB 3 and my post is now gone. I was hoping to read the replies, though fortunately others provided some good info in related posts. Can someone explain why posts simply vanish on MDN?
@Nobama
And that’s only on the first launch. When you do that, Aperture will scatter bits and pieces all over your platters and your machine will start to slow to a crawl so frustrating you will rue the day.
Too bad, too. Aperture has some very nice features that are totally canceled out by the fragmentation problem.
@User
There’s a good chance you post was too critical of Mr. Jobs or his company. If Steve is not ready for you to have USB 3, then you won’t get it or any sympathy around here.
“and up to three more hours of battery life”
Did Apple preinstall flash blocker?
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Okay Mactards, time to dispell some myths here. The ASUS G73 is 3.85kg and the MBP/17 is 3kG. The ASUS G73 uses shy of 90W peak and the MBP/17 around 60W peak. It’s 1.7cm wider, 3.4cm deeper and 2.68cm thicker. It has more GPU power, more CPU power, twice the RAM and storage space, a full number pad, better cooling, BluRay playback and all at half the price. Oh, and it has a better warantee to boot.
And what are you loosing? Aluminum unibody construction (which is very nice), about 3-4 times the battery life, and possibly/arguably a better/safer operating system experience. However, I have to point-out that antivirus software does NOT leach tonnes of hp from your system unless you’re stupid enough to use crapware like Norton or McAfee: http://thepcspy.com/read/what_really_slows_windows_down/
So, no changes for the MacBook, or even the MacBook Air? Will those eventually be updated?
“At least” a 350M? What the hell are you thinking, graphics performance jumped 80% between the 9400M and the 320M!
And btw, I read somewhere that Apple put on C2D on the 13″ because its GPU is integrated and that has something to do with that Nvidia-Intel lawsuit. Better have a C2D and a 320M than a i5 and a shitty Intel HD GPU
Time for Apple to move away from Intel cpu’s and go their own way.
@edcalgary
“I too once used to be a Macphile and brainwashed and could not see past anything that was APPLE until I saw that Windows 7 is a vast improvement over Vista or XP, is actually better than OS X…”
I call bull$hit.
If you every really used a Mac, you’d know that most users moved to it after suffering for years w/ M$ cr@p – no brainwashing involved, just relief!
As for 7 being better than SL? The updated service pack for Vista?
Riiiiiight.
Dream on, PC fanboi shill.
@bottoncandy
Actually in our household, we have had a G5 Imac, a Power Book, , 2 macbooks, two IMACs and a a mac mini (which we still have)..so much for your bull$hit remark…
I did like them but then after I see how the PC market of laptops are now delivering more bang for the buck as opposed to the latest Macbook offerings as was further proven by this new “refresh” today… I will not be buying a Macbook in the near future…
I can buy two of my Asus G73JH-A2 for less than what you pay for a fully loaded Macbook Pro i7 now (and the i7 only has 500 gigs as opposed to my 1 terabyte and a faster GPU, actaully the fatsest that you can get now) and that doesn’t even include the added $399 for the Apple Care too…
And my Asus runs a lot cooler and has way better benchmarks than the i7 Macbook too…
And I challenge you to actually try using Windows 7, it is now Vista..
But I now expect some more insults and ridicule as opposed to mature comments to my posting now… rather than logical facts…
“And the Macbook has a non replaceable battery and is only good for 1000 charges and then you have to pay 200 bucks to have a new one put in…”
You know that every other non-Apple battery is rated for only about 300 charges, right?
Removable replacement batteries = $129
1000 / 300 = 3.33333 [repeating]
3.33333 x $129 = $430
$430 > $200
The non-replaceable battery, in addition to lasting longer on a single charge, is actually cheaper. Of course, if you think Win7 is better than OS X, you probably don’t understand the concept of “total cost of ownership” (and I use Win7 regularly).
MDNW: [you’re] wrong
Speaking of wrong, here are the *correct* prices from Apple’s website:
17-inch: $179 pre taxes
15-inch and 13-inch: $129 pre taxes
Apple. “Replacing the Battery in your MacBook Pro” <http://www.apple.com/support/macbookpro/service/battery>
“….What a joke…
For what you get for the money you spend on these new updates is preposterous.. aside from the increased battery life, there really is nothing to rave about……”
ummmm maybe … but, let me ask you this…
what condition will your spiffy new Asus be in a couple years ?
How much time will you spend ferretting out all the malware you’ll surely be picking up ??–
And, also– what will your Asus be worth in a couple years ?
ya — thought so !
oops spelling mistake when I said …
“And I challenge you to actually try using Windows 7, it is now Vista..”
I meant “And I challenge you to actually try using Windows 7, it is NOT Vista..”
It was right the first time, Ed
Agreed – Mac’s have a much higher resale value – like Toyota. I owned a MacBook Pro for about two years and loved it. About four months ago I sold it for $900, which for a two year old laptop is pretty good.
Apple’s reputation for being fairly-priced and of high quality is rapidly eroding though. Also like Toyota. A year-or-so back, Apple was competitively priced with the likes of Dell, HP and so-on, as long as you compared everything feature-to-feature. People here, on MDN, bragged about how Apple was superior everything – better manufacturing, better OS, and better priced.
Now it’s not true anymore, so you’re all madly scrambling for whatever excuse you can muster. Apples are obviously much more expensive and lagging behind the hardware curve; OS-X is as bloated as Windows and is lagging feature wise (CUDA vs say OpenCL), and while their standards of manufacturing are still quite high, other companies are catching up. Look at HP’s Envy…
Yes, OSX doesn’t suffer from viruses like Windows does, but that’s a pretty small island to be standing on.
From ecrabb:
@Orenokotodaze,
If you’re using a G4 iBook every day, you sure as hell don’t need an i5 – a Core 2 Duo would be more than fine. For Pete’s sake, go ahead and upgrade! Pick up a refurb 13″ C2D MacBook and don’t look back – it’s a FAR superior machine in every way to your old iBook.
@ecrabb – no it’s not. C2D MacBook, that is. I already have one of those, and still like the 12″ size and keyboard much better than MacBook keyboard. You’re (you’re) right about me not needing the new MacBook Pros; I surely do not, but what I do need is a very small Mac – I travel worldwide, and believe me, small is good for my work. Been checking out the iPad, but won’t do for me. MBA is just too expensive, otherwise, it would be about perfect; would even be better if MacBook Air came in 12″ size…
MDN Magic Word: long, as in, yes, my Macs are long in the tooth, but still work for me…
@none – love the rhetoric; Windows-7 == Vista == XP == NT. I guess that means that OS-X == NeXTSTEP == Mach – that’s equally fair, right? And everything that was wrong with Mach/NeXTSTEP applies fully and completely with OS-X?
Oh, okay.
So I guess “NeXTSTEP-5” still has major performance problems with it’s kernel architecture. I mean, using IPC for everything, even driver requests must really bog things down. Oh, and there’s the abysmal memory management of “NeXTSTEP-5” – LOLZ. Its no wonder that the same game (WoW) is faster on Windows that “NeXTSTEP-5”. Maybe they should just admit they’re trying to “pretty up” a bland 486-era greyscale-based GUI running on a 68000-based microkernel! Geeze.
MDN Magic Word: people, as in “Come on people, get a brain. At some point comparing something to it’s predecessor is stupid.”
Here’s a great table that compares the new MBP models with the ones released in June 2009.
Visually comparing Apple’s April 2010 MacBook Pro specs to the June 2009 models
I hear Windows 7 has improved the Windows experience quite a bit and I think its fair to use whatever OS and hardware you are comfortable with. EdCalgary, you go ahead and enjoy your computer.
Having said that, I find Apple’s prices to be quite fair based on the quality of the components and the support/warranty they give you and I’m very happy with how the OS works and have had a much better experience with Apple products in general than with Microsoft ones. I’m still using my 7 year old 12″ PowerBook which currently works better than many netbooks fresh out of the market. With that kind of quality I find it hard to justify not buying another Apple laptop when I do decide I want to upgrade.
Looks like I’ll have to hold out longer (again). The 13″ models are lame. What a bargain the $1500 version is; for your extra $300 you get a slightly faster obsolete processor and 80GB more hard drive space. I’m so thrilled I could just shit.
The Cult of Microsoft seems to be in a bit of a snit today. Cheer up I hear Stockholm Syndrome is curable.
surcharged
@edcalgary:
Nobody cares what a dumb peecee jock thinks about the new MacBook Pro’s.
Sir Gill Bates:
You’re truly funny.
And it’s moot, not mute. Illiterate? Write for free help.
Kifdding Sir Gill
Just watched District 9 again.
@edcalgary
I wouldn’t buy an Asus because my friends would be contemptuous and stop talking to me, even if I hadn’t told them that I bought it on the advice of a Canadian.
edcalgary?
Fuck with a Mac user.
“Integrated Graphics?” &#^$ this Apple.
Just put in beefy graphics cards and quite this slow drift towards integrated graphics. When I hear that phrase, the term ‘cheap pc’ comes to mind.
@Ron… if he lives in the state of California he can return it with no questions asked for 30 days. But he’ll have to pay a 10% restocking fee at apple.
If he used his amex card to purchase it he can have them argue with Apple over the 10%.
Jim
@Ampar…. you drinking again?
If anyone who knows and reads down this far, would someone have input on the Toshiba SSD available drives, in particular, any cons (besides the really high price)? I am considering the 512 drive but have heard there can be security issues doing secure erases due to data movement during wear leveling. Might there be some other reason not to get one?
…and might we expect noticeably better battery life? Or is there something that would equalize that with a standard HD?
What: no matte antiglare screens still for the 13″ MBP? Matte-lovers need to protest more. We’re just a few petitions short of 1,000 at http://macmatte.wordpress.com – any person could be the 1000th petitioner.
давно пора
@ Jessica:
Oh yes freedom from viruses is a small island…kind of like Australia. Talk about grasping at straws!
All you PC fanbois/gurls go enjoy your little “only good for gaming” toys and visit the Enderle/Thurrot endorsed sites for bragging about how wonderful they are. Or are you just trying to convince yourselves that the Yugo you just purchased really IS as good as the BMW you actually wanted?
@ edcalgary,
Being a fellow Calgarian, I think I’ve met you before. You’re that belligerent asshole that works at the Best Buy on Deerfoot Trail aren’t you.
You’re the Ed who hangs out in the Mac section playing games on the 27″ iMac and forever trying to steer Mac buyers over to the Cheap PC section. I always get a big laugh when the Mac customers finally tell you to fuck off.
It’s easy to tell that you sell PCs. Only a salesman would try to tell Mac users that Windows 7 is better than OS X. Windows 7 is Vista fixed. It’s still not as good as XP Pro SP3.
What a loser.
@Big Als MBP
It is too bad that you have to resort to immature swearing and vulgar language on your reply..
you assumed wrongly about me…
Actually you are so wrong in your assumption of who I am…
I have never worked at Best Buy and never plan to as I am 45 years old and that would not be my ideal career at my age…
Anyhow, having a Bachelors Degree in Bachelor of Applied Technology Geographic Information Systems would make me overqualified for a job at Best Buy..
I actually work for a GIS (Geographic Information Company) which is one of the top companies in it’s field…
I have owned numerous Mac and my first computer I used at school back in 1980 was an Apple IIc…
I do like the MACs but they are way over priced for what you get now as can be proven even more by the new refresh yesterday…
I did a benchmark using GeekBench for my Asus G73JH-A2 last night and compared those against a new loaded refresh of the 17 inch Macbook Pro and the Macbook only beat me slightly on the GB Floating Point score…
I can buy two of my Asus machines (actually me and my spouse did buy two) for the price of one 17 inch Macbook ..and you only get 500 megs of storage with the Macbook , I get 1 terabyte… and a way better graphics card(ATI Mobility Radeon® HD 5870, 1G GDDR5 VRAM) and awesome sound (EAX Advanced HD 4.0
Built-in 2.1 channel stereo speakers)…
And to top it off , I have a lot of money left in my pocket ….
I hope some replies back to my comments show more concrete maturity that has been said so far….
I find it amuzing how Intel have been boasting lately about “integrated memory controller”… Yae guess who switched to that years ago when Intel was still struggelung with it’s P4. Yes, AMD did… It’s nothing new…
What the hell’s wrong with BestBuy? And it’s not just games, show me a copy if ArcGIS that works on OS-X, or Microsoft Access. How well do you think GPGPU acceleration with Adobe CS5 is going to work with these second rate graphics cards? I mean, these are supposed to be “Professional” laptops, so where’s the USB3, where’s the FirePro/Quadro-FX graphics cards, where’s the dual drives…? Don’t make me laugh, these aren’t Pro machines, they’re consumer laptops, with an overpriced unibody design, with the “Pro” moniker to make wannabes like the lot of you think you’re professionals.
Definition of irony: http://gear.ign.com/articles/108/1083599p1.html
And if for one moment you want to bash gaming, and rant about the fact that the Mac isn’t a gaming platform (a notion I disagree with, otherwise why the push to have games like BioShock and NFS ported to the Mac?), I would ask you all to consider where the Mac, and for that matter, every computer on the market today, would be without gaming.
Gaming has created the need for the GPU’s that are now magnitudes more powerful than our CPU. Gaming has created the need for massively powerful CPUs as well. Office applications and desktop operating systems never needed this type of processing power, but in the end have benefitted from it. Now we have GUIs that are easy on the eyes, and word-processors that can fix our grammar as we type. All thanks to gaming.
Without gaming, Apple would be still selling Apples, not Macs.
@ Karlv – too bad AMD processors are abysmally slow, otherwise that “integrated controller” might mean something.
@ Ampar,
I really don’t know how to respond to that.