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Apr 24, 08 - 01:37 pm Comment from: ericdano

Apple needs to introduce an iPod touch with the capacity of the biggest iPod classic. Whether it be with a HD or Flash Memory, it needs to be done. I suspect that the battery life of a HD based iPod touch was not good enough last product cycle. Hopefully that will change this cycle.

Fourth, making iPods has taught Apple how to mass produce consumer electronics

Fifth, the iPod experience has prepared Apple to enter the mobile phone market with a differentiator ... the iPod built into the phone

Sixth, iPods economies of scale give Apple a natural advantage when sourcing components for the iPhone

Seventh, Apple has learned now how to leverage its OSX system to work seamlessly on iPods, iPhone, AppleTV and of course their entire line of computers

Eighth ...

Nineth ...

Tenth ...

Apr 24, 08 - 01:42 pm Comment from: Wun Dum Gai

All Hail the Tough!

Apr 24, 08 - 01:43 pm Comment from: Wun Dum Gai

I mean "Touch"!

I have 1,700 songs, 12 videos & 120 photos on my 16g iPod touch. I have nearly 7g before it's full. They hold more than you think!

iPhone = new iPod. and better.

Apr 24, 08 - 01:52 pm Comment from: iWill

Kids are the future, and they all have iPods now.
Let's connect the dots, shall we?

"Duty Now for The Future!"

Apr 24, 08 - 01:55 pm Comment from: Crabs

MikeH, I agree with you, but to some people, that's not a lot. That'd be more than I need, my little 8GB Nano's great for me, but for some people, they need (or at least think they need) a lot more space.

Apr 24, 08 - 01:58 pm Comment from: It's About Time

Market is like the Ocean. One wave after another, some bigger, some not. I have a 3G iPod. I'm ready to go wireless with the next version of the iPod Touch. There is another wave building.

The classic example of what Hansell is talking about is Motorola.

"For some companies, a mature market and downward pressure on prices could lead to a nasty death spiral. But Apple has used its amazing six-year run with the iPod to nurture enough new business lines that it will be able to withstand a collapse in the MP3-player market as well as can be imagined,"

Motorola didn't capitalize on its RAZR and now where is it? In a nasty death spiral.

Apr 24, 08 - 02:10 pm Comment from: Spark

@Crabs
Expanding on your comment.
Having used iPods since v1 I think there is a place for the big capacities, but over time I've realized that for all but a few the need to carry 10-15000 songs around all the time is unnecessary. With the ease of creating Playlists I've found that with the iPod Shuffle, and now my iPhone, the smaller capacities carry plenty of music in almost all cases, and their solid-state construction requires far less care for a portable device. Still, as Apple can accommodate larger capacity NAND into the iPods I will still probably opt for bigger capacity.

ericdano,

I think iPod touch memory capacities are progressing fine. We're already at 32gb and that's what most people I know with HDD iPods were comfortable with. Who knows, Apple may be able to pack in 64gb by the end of the year or early 2009. The prices just need to drop but we're getting there.

Eighth… Apple continues to dominate the digital media market in terms of profits, setting a low price point, Apple's codecs and minimal DRM

"Third, and perhaps most significantly, Apple’s entire adventure with the iPod is helping it sell computers, although the magnitude is impossible to calculate," Hansell reports.

"...impossible to calculate..."

Impossible to calculate? Well, wasn't it just reported that they sold nearly 2.3 million this last quarter??

I'd say that *someone* has been calculating it...

Damn hyperbole :(

I think what the article is trying to say is that, we dont know how big the ipod halo effect on mac sales has been, as in we dont know what sales would of been like without the halo, we can only guess, so the magnitude of the halo is difficult to quantify

Ha ha! I'm still happily using my 512 MB iPod Shuffle that I got for $25 at a garage sale. I don't know how many songs I've got on it, but my Shuffle is nowhere close to being filled up yet. Still, I look lovingly at those newer iPods with their video screens, and imagine watching movies and videos as well as using the iPod as an address book, etc.

If the next generation iPhone comes out and they drastically lower the price of the older iPhones, I might just start looking for old iPhones at garage sales soon.

Apr 25, 08 - 12:00 am Comment from: ken1w

> Apple needs to introduce an iPod touch with the capacity of the biggest iPod classic.

It's happening already. It's already at 32 GB. Before the latest increase to 80 GB, the thin iPod "Classic" was just 30 GB. At most, the iPod Classic will get to 100GB for the thin model, before Apple phases out hard drive -based iPods completely. Meanwhile, the Flash-based iPods will continue to increase capacity steadily, as price for Flash comes down.

Apple will not put a hard drive in any new iPod model. That hard drive is the most unreliable and fragile part of an iPod.