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perfect timing to take the wind out of Verizon's app store plans...

Jul 14, 09 - 08:36 am Comment from: JAYGEE

With most apps being free junk that people try once then delete off their iPhone again.

Jul 14, 09 - 08:41 am Comment from: Jay-Z

@ JAYGEE:

That may be the case for you, but I have kept about 80% of the apps I've downloaded on my phone.

"...more than 65,000 apps and more than 100,000 developers in the iPhone Developer Program..."
There are more developers and apps? That means there are at least 35,000 developers (probably more) that haven't produced squat yet?

I wonder how Ivan Seidenberg's 'Filet of Crow' is tasting right about now...

http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/24/verizons-ceo-sidesteps-questions-on-iphone-android-handset/

He had his once-in-a-lifetime chance to hook up with Apple and he blew it.

As so many have found with Verizon: 'The bitter taste of poor quality remains much longer than the sweet taste of a low price.'

Enjoy your meal, Ivan.

The timing of this announcement is interesting. Given that Verizon announced an app store of its own tells me that for the second time, the pricks at Verizon told Steve Jobs to pound sand. Verizon still doesn't get it. They think that companies like Apple are mere suppliers, and should approach the company's Irvine, California headquarters crawling on their knees in submission.

Verizon sells music directly to its customers too at ridiculous prices. Good network, lousy company.

To any of you who hoped that the iPhone would come to Verizon, you can kiss that day goodbye. Verizon is such a bunch of control freaks, they foolishly think they can court developers and build a successful app store for all phone types. Wrong.

Verizon = FAIL

Anyone remember when the App Store crossed one billion apps sold? I sense that Apple's success is only accelerating. Way to go, Apple!

Jul 14, 09 - 08:50 am Comment from: JAYGEE

@Jay-Z

That will be because you haven't downloaded any of the junk apps.

Jul 14, 09 - 08:52 am Comment from: Cascadians

As a new iPhone 3GS happy owner I must say exploring new Apps is a pleasure. Like reading recommended lists, then finding App on App Store, reading reviews, deciding whether it fits what I want to do, downloading, learning the features, going to the App maker's website to see any tutorials, etc. Adds many dimensions to the utility of the iPhone. Lots to learn!

Jul 14, 09 - 08:57 am Comment from: Superior Being

JAYGEE,

You're surprised and feel compelled to announce that you've deleted apps that you consider "junk" because:

a) You're a moron
b) You're an idiot
c) You're a pain in the ass whiner
d) all of the above

I always chuckle a bit when I hear criticism saying that most iPhone apps are toys. The numbers involved are enormous and overwhelming, If only one in ten iPhone apps are really good, then there are 6,500 really good iPhone apps. If only one in a hundred is exquisite, then there are 650 exquisite apps for the iPhone. And all this in just one year.
Add to this the genius of the design and introduction of iTunes and its stores, then yes, . . . perhaps the iPhone has actually gutted the mobile phone industry.
Part of being an Apple fanboi is sitting gleefully on the sidelines waiting to see what this company will do next.

GREAT! MDN word

Jul 14, 09 - 09:25 am Comment from: Demon

Interesting that iPhone and iPod touch owners have download a collective 38 apps each (37.5 apps each average).
That is a lot of apps per device.

AppleJack, couldn't agree more.
One remark left though, all those people complaining are probable complaining about all those free apps (or most of them) being junk,... They're very likely complaining about their HD-TV experience from Walmart's USD 100.00 Flatscreen as well.

Go figure....

Jul 14, 09 - 10:02 am Comment from: JAYGEE

@Superior Being

It's d

@pooloo

No it does not mean "35,000 developers (probably more) that haven't produced squat yet?" Most apps take several people to develop them. I wonder how many it took to produce "Sims 2". There have been a few people who have done well by themselves, but those are the exception. That is why they get press. Most apps are produced in teams.

It would be nice to know the number of developers that had to switch to Mac's so they could write apps. This will be a boost to Mac sales. If they developers like the platform they may start writing apps for the Mac. More apps, more reasons for people to switch.

@pooloo

Some apps are team efforts.

@pooloo: sorry I haven't had any spare time lately. It will be done someday.

@pooloo: Still working on it, slowly, but surely.

Mdn, in honor of Bastille day, you need to change your take to "bain de sang".

@pooloo

Or... perhaps, almost half the developers have signed up in the last 6 mos (even Apple was unprepared for the almost instant super star status of the app store and the huge deluge of developer applications) And perhaps... those developers are not yet finished with their product.
Based on my experiences at WWDC, in terms of 3rd party app development on the iPhone/touch platform... —you aint' seen nuthin' yet— The first wave is in... now prepare for the mega-tsunami!

Not only has apple made a vastly superior development and distribution platform, but by doing so they have made it difficult for developers to rationalize (business wise) developing new apps for any other mobile platform.

Jul 14, 09 - 01:41 pm Comment from: praus

@JAYGEE
"With most apps being free junk that people try once then delete off their iPhone again."

Not to bust your chops too much but do you have data to back up that statement? First off I don't believe most (meaning at least more then 50% if not more) of the apps are free. Of the ones that are free there is no data that’s been published to quantify how many are junk. This is especially true because what is junk to one man maybe be the best app ever to some one else.
So I think the only thing you can truthfully say is that of the free apps you’ve downloaded, most of them were junk.

Jul 14, 09 - 02:29 pm Comment from: Grouch

Increased 500 million downloads in days! Apps total increased about 30% in the same period! The tsunami effect is showing up now.

Jul 14, 09 - 02:30 pm Comment from: Grouch

Oops -- omitted number of days. Increased 500 million downloads in 82 days! Apps total increased about 30% in the same period! The tsunami effect is showing up now

65,000 apps.
But tough to innovate.

Yes I took the plunge. Yes I'm stuck in the app store queue. And it feels worse than I ever imagined it would.

Why? The combination of delays, lack of clarity as to the rules, and complete opaqueness of the process.

Now if you're spamming the store with me-too cheap or ad supported titles... you can submit lots and know most or all will be approved.

But if you're putting your heart and soul into something innovative, you don't know if it's okay with Apple and you bleed.

Apple is getting quantity. But are they encouraging innovation. No.

YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO WAIT FOR WEEKS WITHOUT WORD, KNOWING THAT SOME REVIEWER MAY KILL YOU IN TEN MINUTES unless you've been through it. Nothing prepared me for how this feels. Complete purgatory. If approved, off to the races on a shiny new business. Success not guaranteed, but PR, new versions, new ideas, running. If rejected: Can't afford to do this again. Months of development plus weeks of wait.

The app counts and approval percentage are juiced up by the safety of the me-too.

This is a brutal place to try to innovate.

And no, I didn't develop something that is trying to get a free ride on the network or cut out some other product. But Apple's "may confuse users" means "we just kinda sorta don't like it and we don't have to let users decide".

If you've followed me here you know I'm a huge Apple fan.

But this is excruciating. And I fear I've picked the wrong place to try to innovate. MS screws its developers by competing with them. Apple simply reserves the right to kill them--without notice.

I love my mac and my iphone. But I'm regretting the decision to develop here. And I'm just waiting... imagine the poor developers who slaved and got rejected. For every publicized reversal, how many just suffered in silence? And we know it's not only high quality apps are accepted. It's just arbitrary.

Maybe I'll get accepted tomorrow and all we be light. Or maybe I've wasted months of my life. True purgatory.

I wonder if the next killer mobile app will really be developed for iphone?

I just wanna the rainbow pie.
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