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May 20, 08 - 11:36 am Comment from: Rich Apple person

Consumers are finally coming the the conclusion that not only are Mac's a better computer but in the long run they are cheaper than Windows PC's. Steve Jobs should send a basket of fruit to the people in Redmond for Vista..which will forever be associated with brands like the Edsel and New Coke

You just got ripped. -_-

May 20, 08 - 11:38 am Comment from: Fred Mertz

Egg-ducker!

May 20, 08 - 11:40 am Comment from: Think

Wall Street will probably hammer Apple later today because of this.

They expected sales to be up 110%.

Just once I'd love to have one of them for a day on my farm and make them really work hard for once in their life.

May 20, 08 - 11:42 am Comment from: Ampar

So, those white Mac cases sunburn easily?

May 20, 08 - 11:48 am Comment from: Wun Dum Gai

Apple is successful because they make products that people actually want to buy. The Windows users I know are just trying to make do until some great product arrives.

May 20, 08 - 11:49 am Comment from: Metryq

Let's not go there, Ampar. It would be just a bit too erotic to see Mac owners oiling up their laptops out at the beach...

May 20, 08 - 11:54 am Comment from: HMCIV

@Ampar

Nah, the blisters are on the hands of new Apple Store employees who aren't used to handling so many macs.

Soon their skin will heal and M$ will be complaining about a callus market.

Comment from: Think

Wall Street will probably hammer Apple later today because of this.

They expected sales to be up 110%.

Just once I'd love to have one of them for a day on my farm and make them really work hard for once in their life.


People who work on wall street do work hard. I don't think there is a need for you to stay up for hours watching your crops. When you go into finance, you give up your life.

I hate bitter, jealous remarks like that.

May 20, 08 - 12:13 pm Comment from: WriterGuy

@zarker -

Yep, pushing paper around your desk all day must be grueling. Too bad the traders on Wall Street can't use their talent for something useful, like actually creating things people can use or enjoy. You shouldn't be able to make three billion in a year just betting on whether the price of housing goes up or down, or where the price of Sweet Texas Crude will be 60 days from now.

If that's capitalism, I'll take socialism.

May 20, 08 - 12:16 pm Comment from: Amazin1

And where is my violin when I need it? Want to play "Ode to Over Compensated Wall Street Types"

May 20, 08 - 12:16 pm Comment from: theloniousMac

@Think...

Manual labor is so much easier. You have no idea.

May 20, 08 - 12:20 pm Comment from: Rich Apple person

The so called analysts from Wall Street are a bunch of dumb MBA's that are book smart but know nothing about consumer behavior or marketing. There motto is "instant gratification takes too long" and regardless of whether their clients make or lose money they still get their bonus checks.

Apple is suceeding because of the fact that they make a superior product in both hardware and software. For God's sake Dell is not selling dual core processors for $459 with a monitor. In order to make money at that price point they have to reduce costs and they are doing that by making inferior products.

However, like I said the failure that is Vista has also played a HUGE part in Apple's success.

May 20, 08 - 12:25 pm Comment from: Not Bill

Those percentage numbers are hard to compare. The 17% growth for the broader market is 17% of a much larger number. In fact I am not sure if Apple sold more additional units than the others year over year; at least not from those two percentage terms. My understanding is that Apples share of the total number of units sold is also increasing appreciably in the US, but not so much so in the entire world where Apple does not have much of a presence; yet.

@ Not Bill,

I couldn't agree more with you.

I'm still on the verge of buying a current gen' Mac to replace my sold Powermac. I keep hoping that "one more thing" will be the pro-sumer Mac to go with my existing flat screen, but I've despaired of ever seeing it. So it's iMac then... or maybe the Macbook Pro, or ... See, Steve? You don't give me what I want, and I end up forever debating my lesser choices.

"egg-ducker" - I guess things at Microsoft are just "ducky"!

"Those percentage numbers are hard to compare. The 17% growth for the broader market is 17% of a much larger number. In fact I am not sure if Apple sold more additional units than the others year over year; at least not from those two percentage terms. My understanding is that Apples share of the total number of units sold is also increasing appreciably in the US, but not so much so in the entire world where Apple does not have much of a presence; yet."

The problem is that while Gateway, Dell, Acer, etc. get compared to each other, Apple gets compared to all the others added together.

The Anal-ists tend to look at the Windows vs. OSX when analyzing as opposed to unit sales of computers. There are places for the OS percentages, but for investment, it's about unit sales (as well as profitability).

> Nothing to see here, egg-ducker. Just keep worrying about Goog.... You mean, the other Steve reads this?

Anyway, it's time for new Cinema displays and a redesigned mouse with a bigger nipple or whatever the scrollball is called. MW: "expect" it! Maybe after the world godphone? As for the prosumer, if anything, Apple might consider an iMac in a tower. Seems there's plenty of power there but not much expandability.

> the failure that is Vista has also played a HUGE part in Apple's success.

I'd like to think that they cracked under the pressure of Apple's constant OS advances, forcing Microsoft to delay Longhorn's release a number of times, until all the additional last-minute tacked-on "improvements" aborted the baby, so to speak.

@WriterGuy...

Let's run your statement through the Truthalator™.


If that's capitalism, I'll take socialism.
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TRUTHALATOR™
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It's unfair that I can't earn the same amount as someone who works in a high income field. What we need is a government to restrict people's freedom to the point that everyone is earning the same lower amount and so I can feel better about myself.

May 20, 08 - 02:05 pm Comment from: alansky

Analysts are morons with a grudge.

May 20, 08 - 02:30 pm Comment from: Buster

@think

Egg-zactly right!

"Analysts are morons with a grudge."

Apple fanboys are morons with a grudge.

May 20, 08 - 02:54 pm Comment from: Think

I forgot to mention that I am also an engineer in electronics and maintain Mac networks all over the city big and small.

I do my fair share of paper pushing and thinking, trying to fix computer and software issues.

My angst is against the Wall street types that expect Apple's quarterly results to match "their predicted" 45% increase year over year, and when Apple releases actual numbers showing 39% increase and beating all other PC manufacturers by a wide margin and Wall Street hammers the stock and say's stupid things like, "sales are slowing down, we are worried about Apple".

May 20, 08 - 03:00 pm Comment from: Think

@theloniousMac

My father-in-law is a small time farmer and was a auto worker. Stopped going to school at 8th grade.
Over the years he has see various products in catalog or in a store, seen the price, and thought he could make it cheaper and better quality. He has done this numerous times.

I have seen that man work with every tool known and it is simply amazing what he has self taught himself. Most farmers know, you got to be able to fix it yourself and sometimes make the part yourself.

When you got a piece of equipment that costs thousands but is over 50 years old, some parts don't exist anymore.

Farming is not all manual labor, at least not with the good ones.

Mac sales are up at my place. I just took possession of a brand new 2.5, 17" MacBook Pro with H Res Widescreen display and it is a beautiful thing to behold.

May 20, 08 - 04:21 pm Comment from: Hm...

@ Think

A farmer makes money by transforming natural energy and resources to foodstuffs.

A Wallstreet financier makes money by moving money around.

Questions:
1. Which one adds real value?
2. Which on could we live without?
3. Which one gets compensated more?

Next list, sports/entertainment figures in the USA...

May 20, 08 - 05:35 pm Comment from: shen

when you do the sport/entertainment figures, be sure and compare them to teachers......

'nough said

cool to be part of those stats; I bought a MBP 2,6 | 200 | 4gig in mid-April. Oh and being at it, I finally got myself a 30' Cinema Display, coming from the 23' Display. Holy moses this setup is sweet. Cinema 4D, CS3, Freehand, Modo, After Effetcs etc. are so insanely fast it's quite unbelievable... The only disappointment so far is Office 2008 which is embarrassing slow - and Apple's Safari (!?). No Idea what is going on with Safari - but it just bloats up after heavy use and almost completely takes down the machine.

May 20, 08 - 08:33 pm Comment from: bobchr

A wallstreet financier allows farmers to buy protective puts that act as insurance for a farmers profits if things don't go as planned with the farmers crops and livestock (drout, disease, etc.). The 2 entities compliment each other to keep food markets relatively stable, supplies up and prices relatively flat. In a socialist or communist system this relationship would not exist. Hence the reason people in the formar USSR and sattelite nations faces chronic shortage, long lines, and poor quality foodstuffs.