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It is SO Snappy, that I have to turn down the speakers to silence the snaps.

Has anyone found that Preview puts what version of the OS you're using when you export a PDF? Just saying... I know Chris Breen's got 10.5.2

When are we getting it? eh? eh?

Jan 20, 08 - 12:36 pm Comment from: Ampar

Sweet Loretta, that's a lot of bug fixes. I didn't see Stacks on the list.

Jan 20, 08 - 12:44 pm Comment from: moenrj

If I could rebuild permissions in the 1 or 2 minutes that Tiger did the job, I'd be real happy. Leopard takes about an hour to rebuild permissions - 1.25Ghz G4 PowerBook, 1Gb ram.

400 MB, so what? If that's a big deal, get a bigger HDD. Simple.

So when is this gonna make to the DVD? I like things hassle free,so all those 100 bug fixes would make it painless upgrade from Tiger.

Jan 20, 08 - 12:54 pm Comment from: iDon't

Sounds like a new release.

Jan 20, 08 - 12:57 pm Comment from: Frank

Alright! they're bringing Classic back!!!

Jan 20, 08 - 01:05 pm Comment from: Brau

Didn't see any reference to backups to an Airport Disk either.

With likely side-effects of all those coding changes, it's probably better to wait for 10.5.3.

Jan 20, 08 - 01:07 pm Comment from: Ampar

Apple should name this release, "Litter."

This clearly represents by far the most significant revision update Apple has ever made on any of its operating systems with nearly 40 Applications involved and 100 bugs fixed.

Perhaps Leopard 10.5.2 should have been Leopard 10.5.1. Oh, well, better late than never. I suppose that the next thing to do is wait for the reviews.

But will 10.5.2 give us the option of glossy or matte?

Jan 20, 08 - 01:18 pm Comment from: Zune Tang®

Sounds like a lot of fixes for OS X Pussy. Way to rush a cobbled together mess out on the 6 or 7 MAC users out there, Apple. I wonder why MAC dorks put up with the consant barrage of fixes for the patches that were supposed to patch the previous fixes. You'd think Cupertino would have a 30-year old OS figured out by now. Maybe it's time to dump UNIX. It's at the end of its road.

Meanwhile I'll spend the day in my basement rocking games in Windows Vista that Microsoft had the good sense to take the time to complete, and only ship when ready. Think different, MAC sheep.

Your potential. Our passion.™

At least we don't have to wait a year or more for a service pack to make Leopard useable.
So far Leopard works great(for me), Apple can continue to tweak and enhance making it even better all they they want.

I have certified its Snappiness. It will be uber, uber snappy.

Mr. Snappy

Jan 20, 08 - 02:06 pm Comment from: Ampar

Mr. Snappy, is this you?

http://www.snappybusinesssys.com/images/mrsnappy.jpg


And did you ever get rid of Miss Clap?

Jan 20, 08 - 02:10 pm Comment from: macaholic

Too bad 10.5.2 kills SL

Leopard already works amazingly well. This is just polish on an already awesome OS.

Hopefully, Web clipping for Safari will work now.

Sort of confirms what I have said before on this forum that they pushed Leopard out the door too early. They have never had to put out a release this big or this comprehensive.
I'm just glad that it's coming.

Mac lover since 1984...

Still living in your Mom's basement, are ya?

400 MB? Lord have mercy!

Dearest @Zune,

No, I live at "YOUR" Mom's house. I'm sure we can discuss any of these computer topics over Thanksgiving dinner. And afterwards, I will show you a thing or two on all the fine games available only on the obviously superior Windows platform

Your potential. Our passion.™

Jan 20, 08 - 02:44 pm Comment from: alansky

f I could rebuild permissions in the 1 or 2 minutes that Tiger did the job, I'd be real happy. Leopard takes about an hour to rebuild permissions - 1.25Ghz G4 PowerBook, 1Gb ram. —moenrj

The 10.5.1 update partially fixed this problem on many machines. Repair Permissions only takes 5-6 minutes on my Core 2 Duo iMac. But it's still a slug compared to Tiger.

The release pattern seen here is normal.

1. get initial release out (10.5), big
2. get quick fixes out fast (10.5.1), small
3. spend time on not-so-quick fixes (10.5.2), very big
4. release rest of updates, small to medium in size

As a developer, I see this pattern all the time with my own code. After the initial release, I get much-needed clarity and can really tighten things up, but I quite often release a quick-fix for any immediate issues.

Go Apple!

@Ampar:

Stacks is part of the Dock. "Dock" is in the list.

A stacks fix has been seeded to developers for over a month now, thank goodness.

what is UP with these zune dudes are they lost or something? Or are you bored? Go play with your zunes or something and stop making IDIOT comments, please.

Jan 20, 08 - 02:56 pm Comment from: flappo

god knows , it needs an update

the finder must crash on me twice a day - crap as ever

and list view after spotlight is useless

tiger wipes the floor with this crap

Hey, macboer (WTF kind of a name is that?)
I am here to remind you macf***s that there IS an alternative to your junkie-like fixation on the apple os.

Come on, macfreaks, come to the dark side.......you are getting angry, macboer. Yes! Thats right, get angry.....

Too bad 10.5.2 kills SL

SL?

D'oh!

So much for my week old PictoChat handle.

Jan 20, 08 - 03:05 pm Comment from: pr

If there really WERE a product called MAC OS X Pussy... believe me it would sell even faster (if that's possible).

What would you rather have to use as you wish?

A Vista or a Pussy?

No offense to certain female members of the board.

Jan 20, 08 - 03:10 pm Comment from: Jamie

SL?

Spotlight maybe?

Maybe my handle will be assigned to me — in the future.

November 3/08?

Jan 20, 08 - 03:25 pm Comment from: PT

interesting situation

at least apple fixes bugs...irony: apple bugs = microsh*t 'features'! Copying process means microsh*t will fix their copes of these bugs in about 8 years, since they copied badly tiger and called it vista??? hehehe...

is it just me or does that sorry assed excuse for a contributor zune tang seem to be getting more and more desperate for attention, since he seems to be more stupid and absurd then normal (maybe it was his birthday and he only got a new minty pine car deoderizer for his basement cave at his mothers?) Ignore Strategy Activated: Cancel or Allow...Allow!

zune tang, you crack me up. lol. : )

ps. i'm a phlegmatic

Of course the 81% satisfaction rate of leopard says all we need to know about the merits of Mac OS and Windows which of course stands at 21% no matter how much mis-information Billy boy and friends at MS can throw at the now decreasingly gullible Windoze sufferers who are increasingly seeing the light and moving to a superior alternative. One can only imagine the pleasure they will have when they adopt not only a real modern operating system as opposed to the spaghetti junction that is Windos, but a superior OS that is about to get even better it seems by extending its superiority over the opposition beyond the horizon. Now that is a nice vista for the enlightened.

Jan 20, 08 - 03:43 pm Comment from: Jubei

400MB or larger.... thats it? C'mon Apple finish it and bring it on. I got my 12mb download capacity cable service ready to download that huge puppy!

Okay, I'm holding my "breathe", excited about the "undless" list of enhancements!

MDN word: "looking", as in, "Looking over your work before putting it in front of an audience of millions is a really good idea."

Jan 20, 08 - 04:16 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

Note how in later posts, Zung Tang® becomes unregistered.

Mr. Zune Tang,

I am a recent switcher, I sold my new Vista PC to a guy at work. My wife liked my new Mac Book so much she bought a new 24 inch iMac so she could use it when I was gone. Two long time Microsoft users "switched to Apple " and "away" from Microsoft based PCs. More and more people are jumping ship because there "is nothing special about Microsoft products, they are actually a hinderance"

I looked at your comments for the last couple of months being a MS fanboy as you are and all I see is a "fool, chasing fools gold "

Whew. Over 400 megs of snappiness coming our way! Guess we'll now see what Leopard 10.5.0 was originally meant to be. Aside from a few 3rd party software issues (Application Enhancer, anyone?) Leopard has been really stable on my Rev.A MacBook, although I downloaded the 10.5.1 update immediately after installing it.

Jan 20, 08 - 05:02 pm Comment from: ron

Spellman. I'm with you. Words mean things. Or not, when incorrectly used.

I'd rather have 1x400MB every 2 months, than 100x4MB constantly. *who said windows*

Take easy Mike T and all you newbies, Zune Tang is one of us. He is only joking and most of the time his comments are really funny.

Jan 20, 08 - 05:35 pm Comment from: Micro Me

@ChrissyOne. "Note how in later posts, Zung Tang® becomes unregistered."

I don't think there's anything of significance there Chrissy, any more than there's anything significant in ZT's posts. Just switch off cookies to appear unregistered.

My wishes for 10.5.2:

Fix Stacks.

Fix whatever it is that causes Safari and Software Update to immediately crash on my workplace Mac (attached to a PC network).

Fix Stacks.

Oh yes, and fix Stacks.

Jan 20, 08 - 05:36 pm Comment from: Zune Tang®

A registered and an unregistered Zune Tang®?

Then the unregistered Zune Tang® is actually ChrissyOne! Gotcha!

sapiens, I am one of who? And who's joking?

I am a fiercely proud Windows enthusiast, and we aren't some dying breed soon to be overtaken by pretentious money-wasting MAC snobs. If we can withstand 110,000+ viruses we can deal with whatever smug "everything just works and is really easy on a MAC" fantasyland nonsense you MAC dorks can come up with.

And MACs can't play games.

Your potential. Our passion.™

Mike T: Zune Tang is here only for cynical joke :p

Just hoping that 10.5.2 will address the following very serious issues:
- unknown user or lacking user group (mainly after upgrade from Tiger) for user's files and folders (partly fixable by removing the user, then copying it back into a folder and reinstating the user)
- some programs inappropriately running as root

Will weight 1.3Gb, 5 hours dl

Jan 20, 08 - 05:59 pm Comment from: HMCIV

OMG this is a friggin windows service pack!*


*Except that it will download quietly in the background, work, fix security holes no one ever noticed...let alone exploited and hopefully, HOPEFULLY allow my external USB drive to flawlessly backup my laptop via AirPort.