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My cousin wants a new laptop. She wants Garageband. Her parents will be getting her a MacBook Pro 13". Windows 7 offers nothing new.

Nov 02, 09 - 10:12 am Comment from: almux

W7 only comes with what SHOULD HAVE BEEN loooong time ago. No wonder there's no wow around it.
Too late and yet, still not good enough.

Nov 02, 09 - 10:13 am Comment from: Jersey_Trader

So, 70.2% of the Windows 7 users are using the "early release versions" of that turd. Did they have to pay for those? I hope not!

The real question is how did the get those old XP users to hold their noses and maybe buy that thing? Or did someone give them a free copy? Or is that what came on the new PC that they were given when their old XP PC failed? Or are they running Windows 7 on their NEW Mac!

How much of that 29.8% are really running it on their Macs?

Nov 02, 09 - 10:22 am Comment from: DLMeyer

Elmer-DeWitt says: "... from 5.12% to 5.26%" and we are supposed to get all excited? That much growth in Market Share - and, really, how are they measuring it that precisely? - in a month amounts to maybe a 2% expansion in a year?
But, again, how could they measure it that precisely? Last quarter we had the two organizations who claim to be monitoring such things arguing about the numbers, offering significantly different guesstimates, and both were low.
Significantly!
I'm glad they are saying positive things, but suspect they are making the numbers up. 5%? In the WORLD, maybe. And that makes it even HARDER to count.

Nov 02, 09 - 10:28 am Comment from: DLMeyer

One more thing ... What's running the remaining 2% of the computers? Linux? A worthy OS, I'm sure, but where is it in the market? Mostly in the Server Room, along with Solaris, AIX and HP-UX - what's left of them. Those systems do a lot of hard work, but there are not-so-many of them. Not compared to the desktops and laptops (and netbooks?)

The decrease in Windows internet use doesn't mean that they have switched to a Mac.

It could mean that there are a lot of 7ista upgraders, who can no longer access the internet, while they are on phone hold with MS support.

Nov 02, 09 - 10:58 am Comment from: Predrag

I am sure MS will show a healthy growth for Windows 7 at the expense of XP. Most Windows PCs are on a 3 to 4-year refresh cycle, so virtually all of the hardware that is due for replacement will be running XP, and the new ones will come with OEM version of 7. Obviously, since it is impossible to buy a new PC with XP today (and nobody in their sane mind will buy it with Vista), every new PC sold will be with 7. So, MS will show much faster growth of 7 than it did for Vista (where half of the people chose to buy XP instead).

This would be enough information for Wall Street to proclaim that 7 is a massive success (and consequently boost MSFT). Ultimately, however, people will begin noticing (possibly already in January, when Apple reports their Q1/2010 earnings) that the switch continues and Mac OS share didn't stop growing with the release of 7.

This is about the only pertinent part for us. Apple has PLENTY of room to grow, even in the developed world (that has enough money for Apple's hardware).

Nov 02, 09 - 11:26 am Comment from: MrScrith

@DLMeyer

Linux has actually come a long way, Ubuntu and others are now every user friendly and only require command-line for odd situations (odd bit of hardware, etc).

Give a try to an Ubuntu Live CD sometime, it'll only cost you some download time and a CDR and you may be surprised at how far it's come.

So saying, I like my Mac more.

Nov 02, 09 - 11:29 am Comment from: qka

@ Mark

That's wicked!

What amazes me is that there has not been more consolidation in the PC desktop-laptop-netbook markets during this recession. Why can't ASUS and Lenovo gain enough ground in the server market to put Dell and HP under water? How does Dell manage to continue to burn through as much capital as they have over the last couple of years, given what Michael Dell used to say about Apple returning assets to the stockholders?

.14% growth? Wow. Ms will be out of business by year's end. Seriously, you guys sound really desperate. I'm sure 7 has already sold more copies than there are Macs in the world.

Nov 02, 09 - 02:00 pm Comment from: Steve Hix

Better get new batteries for your calculator, germie.

Moving from 5.12% to 5.26% isn't .14% growth, it's 2.7%.

As the article stated. And about 19 times more than your claim.

Down the road Windows 7 will rise and make a serious threat to CRAPple.

http://www.bing.com When it comes to decisions that matter, Bing & Decide

well i am so sad my life is so boring that i love PC's but hang around on Mac Websites.

Maybe i am not getting any need to speak to the Girlfriend

Nov 02, 09 - 03:39 pm Comment from: HolyMackerel

The battle is not for the enterprise since they will upgrade to W7 as they buy new PCs along with their iPhones. The real battle is for the new-purchase consumer.

Will the pain in upgrading XP data and apps encourage sales of a Mac with a copy of Parallels/VMWare? Sales of those unibody MBPs would say yes.

To "I'm a PC" - down the road? why doesn't MS perform properly TODAY?

The foremost argument that PC fans try to make is that their machine of choice is "cheaper". Keep advertising that PC "advantage" and then hypocritically using the juvenile put down of the Apple company name, and we'll count on one hand the number of idiots who are convinced by your argument.

One more thing: Bing sucks. I can decide for myself, thank you very much.

One can only imagine the uninformed PC user gloating about the tremendous savings of his computer choice while huddled in a crappy dorm room, walls adorned with posters of overpriced luxury products that s/he aspires to someday own. The hypocracy...

The only true Windows fans are employed as technicians to repair them.

I found my Girlfriend on Bing she has 3 eyes, thank you Microsoft


http://www.bing.com When it comes to decisions that matter, Bing & Decide

Nov 02, 09 - 05:24 pm Comment from: Fergman

There is a promotion available to shoppers in some parts of Australia, that if they buy Vista they will get a free upgrade to W7. Good for MS sales figures but the customer end up with two bags of shit.

I use Windows XP, as my PC is around 3 or 4 years old. My next computer will be a Mac. The reason is that I have an iPhone, which I like a lot - before that, I had a Samsung "Smart"-phone, which was very complicated to use, clicking through numerous menues to sync the calendar, etc. That was normal for me, as I didn't know how easy it could be with the iPhone. So if the difference from Windows to Mac is anything like the difference from Samsung to iPhone, I won't waste more time with windows. And regarding Windows7, well, they always tell it's absolutely new blablabla. My sister bought a HTC cellphone, which "can do anything that an iPhone can do". I tried it, terrible machine.