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Sexy!

Unnnnnh . . huh . . huh . . huh . . .

I'd rather use money on a desktop.

Then go right ahead!

Oct 15, 08 - 07:18 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

I'd rather read something intelligent. Guess we're both outa' luck.

Oct 15, 08 - 07:20 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

I'm digging the new 24" LED and the special power adapter for Lappy and the hey hey hey... Looks pretty sweet.

apple.com store has been closed most of today as far as I can tell.

It's actually a bit heavier than the previous MBP... not lighter as he states. Doesn't matter what it "feels" like, it's still slightly heavier.

Plus, it looks like a Sony or HP ... ugly. Better built obviously, but an ugly design by Apple standards.

Oct 15, 08 - 07:34 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

Apple store is working fine for me.

Oct 15, 08 - 07:34 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

"Better built obviously, but an ugly design by Apple standards."

Oh yeah, you're the arbiter of Apple standards.

Here it says heavier?
http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=3431

Oct 15, 08 - 07:42 pm Comment from: Randian

Please, please, please, ladies and gentlemen: If you can't say something disparaging and hysterical about Apple, Steve Jobs, and the new MacBooks, say nothing at all.

gow?

Have you seen one in person?

Oct 15, 08 - 07:56 pm Comment from: TowerTone

Firewire? Who the Hell wants a computer with Firewire?

@ChrissyOne

Thanks for checking. All I've been seeing today is the "We'll be back soon, contact our telesales teams...etc". After your comment, I reloaded the page rather than just revisit and now it is working. All day I assumed it was closed for some reason because that's what it said no matter how many times I checked. I've never seen that before.

Oct 15, 08 - 08:13 pm Comment from: Willie G

@ TowerTone,

the MBP does have firewire, but thanks for playing

Willie G:

Check your sarcasm meter. When it's convenient for you.

The new MBP is almost as hot as Deanna Russo.

Oct 15, 08 - 08:24 pm Comment from: MaLvado

Step 3
You open the box...

I have had my new Macbook since 10am central time this morning, overnight delivery from my order placed yesterday. How much have I missed having FW400 in it, about as much as I do with our offices MB Air... I don't. All of our FW400 and 800 gear is connected to either Mac Pros or Macbook Pros. The Macbook just became a more professional, higher performing system then the last versions, and less costly than Macbook Air's for many of our staff. So best of both worlds. As far as using my Macbook Air at home, all of my FW400 HDs are connected to a Mac mini that acts as a home theater/file server/time machine target system with it pulled in via ethernet to an .n Airport Extreme base station. Access to Fire400 (which all have USB2 in them as well) will be the same. The end of the world for some, is the same ol day for others. Thanks for spending your day here bitching about it though

THANK YOU APPLE FOR KEEPING THE MATTE SCREEN OPTION!!!!

However glossy and matte screens should be shown as options in the tech specs, not only when one goes to order.

Matte is very important for long use computer users as glossy causes eyestrain and annoying reflections blocking sections of the screen, especially in a laptop where one might not be able to control the enviromental conditions as easily as a stationary desktop.

Back in the CRT days use "ubergeeks" all had anti-glare screens attached to our montiors. When cool non-reflective LCD's came out we were very happy!

It's assbackwards going back to glossy/reflective screens, none of Sony's top of the line HDTV's have glossy screens, so why computers? Especially since computers tend to get a lot of close in, many hours at a time usage.

CHOICE! MATTE OR GLOSSY! EXTEND MATTE SCREEN OPTIONS TO ALL MAC's!!

amen, praise jobs....

Oct 15, 08 - 08:48 pm Comment from: TowerTone

Probably already gone
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/B0013FLTNS/ref=nosim/daringfirebal-20

Oct 15, 08 - 08:49 pm Comment from: TowerTone

Oh, and, thanks Nick.

TT:

Just doing my job. I wish Ampar was here.

I have a white iMac with a matte screen. The screen faces my bathroom. If the lights are on, I don't see a reflection but I do see glare from the light on the screen. It's very distracting, so I turn off the light. We have several new iMacs at work. True, you can see reflections, but it's no worse than the glare. Blacks are blacker and everything just looks crisper on the new iMacs.

Looks like Apple may be selling a lot of FW 400/800 hubs.

Anyone know if Apple sells FireWire express cards?

Oct 15, 08 - 10:40 pm Comment from: ibookboyuk

Yeah, I miss Ampar. I think we all wish Ampar well, eh.

Oct 15, 08 - 11:17 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

Ampar was a myth created by the oil companies.

Oct 15, 08 - 11:18 pm Comment from: KingMel

Even Apple can't ship computers on a "palette." But a pallet is a different matter.

Oct 15, 08 - 11:20 pm Comment from: noxlady

@Brian James

Yes, the lack of firewire is *clearly* not a problem. After all, most MacBook users have other, more powerful, computers that they can plug all of their firewire devices into. And, after all, who uses target disc mode?

Oct 15, 08 - 11:22 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

Glossy screen or not... the MBP is dead sexy and I fuçk|ng NEED one. Like nowish. If only half my savings hadn't vanished this year...
But hey, only half, right?
Do they have them in the stores yet? I was thinking about checking one out tomorrow.

Oct 15, 08 - 11:30 pm Comment from: noxlady

(set detectors for *sarcasm*)

Oct 15, 08 - 11:47 pm Comment from: TowerTone

Ampar? Everybody know that is Steve Jobs' handle when he comes here.
It is also common knowledge that MDN is run by his mistress.
Hence the name...SteveJack......

Oct 15, 08 - 11:48 pm Comment from: TowerTone

sorry, that should be 'nose'.

Oct 15, 08 - 11:49 pm Comment from: TowerTone

ok, that's not right either.
A little help here?...

Where IS Ampar?
Where IS ZuneTang?

Come back guys, wit has been replaced by simple sarcasm.
Ugh.

After looking at the unboxing shots and seeing the easily replaceable HD, I think I like the new 'Book pro's.

MDN magic word: way!

McCain? More like McANAL!!!

Oct 16, 08 - 01:10 am Comment from: ChrissyOne

McCrater.

Watch out. He's going deep.

It's just not fair! It's beautiful! And it runs Vista. Just not fair!

@Reality Check
Not sure. These "conventional" aluminium plate presses are very power hungry (elder generation) machines. The processe has to be studied on its overall specks.

Isn't the "Glossy" versus "matte" argument really one of glass versus plastic?

Plastic is just like having your image's contrast reduced by 5 stops.

If you can get non reflective glass for framing paintings, can't Apple use it too? Perhaps it is?

You really are a twit. The old process meant making myriads of parts separately and then bolting and welding them all together...

A more than 50% reduction in parts I think they said.

Can you spell "stupid"?

Grrrrrrrrr

Back to Firewire again.... How about I put it this way.

I have been using a PowerBook 12" followed by a MacBook 13" for the last 5 odd years. As a Mac Tech, they are small, portable with great versatility. Imagine I gave you something for that long, you got used to having the functionality, then I replaced it with a new model that is much faster and sleeker but with LESS connectivity. I speak from having used a MacBook Air for 2 weeks while setting it up. For Me - totally useless. Don't get me wrong - great bit of kit for some but not me and YES - some of us do use Target Disc Mode and Firewire regularly.

Looks like an hp. Bland. Is this some ploy to tempt more switchers? Making it look like every other boring, ugly PC out there?

Oct 16, 08 - 10:27 am Comment from: MacRaven

Trouble with Macs lasting so long is I want one of these new ones, but there is nothing wrong or slow about my 3 year old MBP.

I need more justification damn it! This is torture.

Oct 16, 08 - 10:31 am Comment from: MacRaven

And I think I don't like the black keys. I think it cheapens the look. Should have left those alone. But before I make a 100% decided statement on this. I want to see one in person. Maybe it's just not photogenic.

Oct 16, 08 - 10:45 am Comment from: British Mac Head

All you target disk mode moaners stop whinging and read this
http://www.slashgear.com/addonics-hot-swap-25-inch-double-drive-caddy-2211294/

For $39 you can get this caddy which fits in a standard drive bay and holds 2 x 2.5" SATA drives.

Bang it in a standard cheap and cheerful firewire housing and you have your solution

You can whip out the drive and mount it on another Mac
It will then plug into any firewire Mac.

Clone the data over to another 2.5" drive in the caddy and you have your new drive.

@noxlady
Brian uses a Mac Mini for his firewire devices and last I looked you can get a second user one for peanuts nowadays.
It's a great little 2nd machine and a fantastic way to serve files with limited space and money. And a cheap monitor will do you just fine for this sort of purpose.

@Brian James
I also have a Mac Mini set up here as a simple webserver/fileserver and web dev environment.

Just for the record to the troll in another thread who said they were going back to Vista because of the lack of firewire in the new macbook.

Why would you do that? You really must have masochistic tendencies. I know a good mistress with her own dungeon if you want her number

And again for the record. How many Windoze PC notebooks come with firewire and have target disk mode?

Well then!!!

This redesign shows how wrong were the folks who claimed the existing MBP to be near perfect. A wider opening display, a more elegant latch, a design that prevents the keys from touching the screen when the lid is closed, the end of wavy grey plastic strips to cover seams -- all are significant improvements. And of course there's the feeling of strength and rigidity in the new chassis. Keyboards are always a matter of personal preference; no one can seriously argue that the new one is inherently worse. As for glossy vs. matte, well, Apple didn't have to do that in order to make the other improvements...

So where are the processor upgrades? When have you ever heard of a major upgrade that didn't include to main CPU?

Oct 16, 08 - 12:09 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ no-no

Please provide links to forum posts claiming that the older MBP was "near perfect".