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Apple’s superior hardware can now run Microsoft’s inferior Windows XP
Monday, April 10, 2006 - 09:47 AM EDT

"While Boot Camp is being painted as a big win for Microsoft, it's not. Apple currently holds anywhere from three to five per cent of PC market share. Many of the True Believers aren't going to let Win XP and its propensity for viruses near their sacred white boxes, so Microsoft will be lucky if it picks up a two per cent to 2.5 per cent one-time overall surge in Win XP sales. Still, Microsoft will no doubt get around to shipping a shrink-wrapped version of Win XP for iMac for placement on store shelves," Doug Mohney writes for The Inquirer.

"And can we talk about the so called 'superior hardware' Apple is bragging about? Having moved from the superior PowerPC chips to allegedly-inferior Intel chips has – by Apple's own propaganda – boosted performance anywhere from three to four times from the 'old' hardware. Various benchmark results floating around on the InterWeb are showing that in an 'ahem' chips-to-chips/box-to-box comparison, an Apple Intel box with a PC Intel box come out in a dead heat. A better looking case and ditching all the legacy ports (parallel, serial, PS/2 mouse & keyboard) makes for more elegant design, but superior performance isn't a part of that mix – unless you're comparing it to Apple's last-generation hardware," Mohney writes.

Full article, "There's nothing superior about Apple hardware," here.

MacDailyNews Take: Apple deserves to brag about their superior hardware because, ahem, they offer superior hardware. Apple consistently scores at the top of multiple independent consumer satisfaction surveys year after year after year. Macs are designed better and last longer than the typical box assemblers' product. Trying to shift from Apple "bragging" about "superior hardware" to an argument about "superior performance" doesn't cut it either, as we happen to understand English and can also spot the debating tactics of a four-year-old quite easily. It's too bad that The Inquirer dilutes what could have been an interesting article with yet another blatant troll for hits.

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Apr 10, 06 - 11:09 am Comment from: Jim - the independent voter

First Toast...

had whole wheat this morning

Apr 10, 06 - 11:12 am Comment from: Jim - the independent voter

Does MacDude write for The Inquirer now?

Apr 10, 06 - 11:14 am Comment from: tommy

i'm definitely all for apple and macs, but thats a rather pompous sounding headline.... not the best way to attract possible switchers eh

Apr 10, 06 - 11:20 am Comment from: macnut222

"Does MacDude write for The Inquirer now?"

MacDude probably owns The Inquirer.

Apr 10, 06 - 11:21 am Comment from: Macaday

Forget the Mac's market share - isn't it time they just referred to the "millions of satisfied Mac users round the world"?

And as for hardware, my beautiful, functional 60 month old Powerbook (Ti) was wowing Win users this weekend - to the extent they bought a hardback book online from iPhoto of the weekends' photos.

Don't tell me there is PC hardware that would be doing that... even after 12 months.

Apr 10, 06 - 11:22 am Comment from: Johnny

How many stories do we need about Boot Camp?

WE GET IT!

Apr 10, 06 - 11:23 am Comment from: Ken

"While Boot Camp is being painted as a big win for Microsoft..."

Microsoft PR may have spun it as a win for MS, but elsewhere I have only seen it "painted" as a big win for Apple. Windows users who want the superior hardware will buy Macs to run Windows, but many will eventually migrate to Mac OS X because they can compare the two side-by-side for the first time. So Apple wins with (1) increased Mac sales and later with (2) increased Mac OS X usership.

Apr 10, 06 - 11:23 am Comment from: MCCFR

@ Jim>

I'm not sure you can classify anything MacDude does as "writing" in the sense that sentient lifeforms understand the word.

It's more the random outpourings of MacDude's several neurons, which means there are probably only about 15 "statements" that it is instinctively programmed to make when presented with Macintosh-oriented external stimuli.

Apr 10, 06 - 11:25 am Comment from: EZ Mac

Yep I agree my powerbook definately looks superior next to any pc laptop. What pc has a keyboard that looks like ours. Or has backlit lighting as nice as ours. NO ONE

Apr 10, 06 - 11:35 am Comment from: ron

>Yep I agree my powerbook definately>

Yes "definitely" is spelled incorrectly almost as many times as "separately"

MW - put, as in -put in an "i".

Apr 10, 06 - 11:38 am Comment from: Bob

When I try to install Boot Camp I get the message--
"Boot Camp Assistant cannot be installed on this computer."
Why not?
I am running a Mac G5, 2.5G dual with 1.5G of ram.
How do I know if my mac is "Intel based"?

Apr 10, 06 - 11:40 am Comment from: EZ Mac

My bad, yeah as you can tell spelling isn't my forte

Apr 10, 06 - 11:40 am Comment from: PC Apologist

Full Disclosure: I am excited about Boot Camp.

BUT - Once again, Apple is taking advantage of the "open standards" concepts they cheered for to improve their bottom line, while freezing out the competition by refusing to license their own stuff. More anti-competitive behavior that will only serve to eventually bite them in the ass.

When Microsoft releases the Windows patch that prevents it from running on Mac hardware, I'll be sad, but turnabout is FairPlay. It will serve them right.

APPLE - If you can read this, please stop being weasels. You're making me look bad.

Apr 10, 06 - 11:42 am Comment from: PC Apologist

Bob - yeah, there's bound to be a lot of jerks calling you names in the next several moments. Ignore them.

G5's are not Intel-based. Only the new Core Solo and Core Duo iMacs, MacBookPros, and Mac mini systems are.

Apr 10, 06 - 11:49 am Comment from: Drunk Cheney

If Apple's hardware were 2 sticks and a hammer BUT ran OS X - I'd still use Apple Macintosh as opposed to anything running Anything Windows.

For me it isn't the hardware that is the deterrent in the PC world - it is Microsoft Windows.

Let's face it. I pay more for Apple's hardware BECAUSE it runs OS X. Forget that it runs windows - don't care. Windows is now just another terrible App that I can run on my Mac - IF I WANT TO.

Apr 10, 06 - 11:52 am Comment from: Moron in a hurry

EZ Mac,

If you really do use a Mac enable your universal spell checker and take advantage of your superior OS.

Stop embarrassing yourself or admit you are being forced into using Windows at work or something.

Apr 10, 06 - 11:52 am Comment from: Bob

Yeah, I've got some g4 macs, and one intel mac.

the way you tell what kind of mac you have is go to the blue apple in the upper left hand corner of the screen, click on it, and select "about this mac"

it the screen that pops up it will tell you.

But like it was said earlier... it's the new macs only. The g4 and g5 macs can't use this new technology.

Apr 10, 06 - 11:58 am Comment from: Macaday

No Bob we won't call you an idiot. I will say PC Apologist is a loser though.

Apr 10, 06 - 12:21 pm Comment from: Hemorrhoid Rage

PC Apologist--
Why would Microsoft release a patch to prevent Windows from running on Mac hardware? They're in the business to sell software, and they don't sell hardware (outside of the XBox), so doing so would just hurt their own sales. Even as a strategy to hurt the competition (being Apple), again so what? People who buy Apple want Mac OS X, and could give a flying puck that Microsoft blocks Windows. Just from a PR standpoint it would make Microsoft look stupid (which it is, but that's beside the point).

Apr 10, 06 - 12:28 pm Comment from: gypsy

".. it's the new macs only. The g4 and g5 macs can't use this new technology"


Even if I were tempted to I couldn't? Thank God I got a dual G5 !!

Apr 10, 06 - 12:35 pm Comment from: Laura

Let's see, windows can run on Macs but Apple's OS can not run on Dell PCs.

there is going to be anti-trust lawsuits sooner or later by dell, sony, microsoft, etc..

Apr 10, 06 - 12:36 pm Comment from: PC Apologist

Hemorrhoid Rage -

Retribution. Apple has the market-leading music store and refuses to license FairPlay to Microsoft to use in their PlaysForSure galaxy, for no other reason than to harm the competition.

Apple also locks MS's partners (Dell, eMachines, etc.) out of using their OS.

Now they want to grow their own sales by taking advantage of an open standard operating system to further harm MS (by harming those same partners).

What's bad for Dell is bad for Microsoft. If you were them, you'd retaliate. Windows sales for Mac systems are NOT going to even register a blip on MS's radar -- preventing it won't hurt them. For that matter, they should announce that they don't support Apple hardware, wait a year, and then publish the patch, just so they can hear the Appleheads cry about how they paid for it and NOW it doesn't work.

This is an opportunity for MS to get what they want from Apple - a move toward fair competitive practices by licensing FairPlay. As usual, MS will blow it, but you gotta hope for good over evil.

Apr 10, 06 - 01:19 pm Comment from: jay

I think anti-trust problems tend to happen to companies that have an overwhelming market share. Can we say MS a few years back? This is not the case for Apple with its 2.3% world/4.3% US market share. This is something that even the most rabid Apple and Doze people should be able to agree on. This is nothing more than the use of a competitive advantage.

But then again, with some of the politicians we have in the US (or France too, for that matter) you never know who might want to try to score a few points by taking down a computer darling.

Apr 10, 06 - 01:32 pm Comment from: MCCFR

@ Laura >

Dell sells more PCs in one quarter than Apple sells in an entire year, so the likelihood of them pursuing an anti-trust suit against Apple is pretty slim.

Apr 10, 06 - 02:34 pm Comment from: Reality Check

Apple offers overhyped crap hardware for brainwashed Macfags and fashion lemmings.

Apr 10, 06 - 02:42 pm Comment from: maccam

"And can we talk about the so called 'superior hardware' Apple is bragging about? Having moved from the superior PowerPC chips to allegedly-inferior Intel chips..."

So this person lives in the universe where the Yankees win the World Series every year?

Apr 10, 06 - 02:57 pm Comment from: Radak

It's idiotic, myopic headlines like "Apple's superior hardware can now run Microsoft's inferior Windows XP" that make me almost never bother reading MacDailyNews. (Oh, and the annoying popunder ads, which no other Mac news site does.) Grow up!

Apr 10, 06 - 03:18 pm Comment from: Mike

Ignore Reality Check, It's just MacDude again... More than anything he hates being ignored...

Apr 10, 06 - 07:40 pm Comment from: me, myself & I

the "InterWeb" ? what the hell is that?

MW: movement, as in something I felt in my bowels when I read Mohney's stupid, ahem, 'inferior' aritcle.

Apr 10, 06 - 08:19 pm Comment from: ishufflemyfeet

Doug has the FIRST part right at least, it won't impact MS sales that much but it won't impact Apple PC sales that much either. Watch and see for yourself...

Apr 10, 06 - 08:26 pm Comment from: Spongy

PC Apologist said:
Hemorrhoid Rage -

Retribution. Apple has the market-leading music store and refuses to license FairPlay to Microsoft to use in their PlaysForSure galaxy, for no other reason than to harm the competition.

Apple also locks MS's partners (Dell, eMachines, etc.) out of using their OS.

Now they want to grow their own sales by taking advantage of an open standard operating system to further harm MS (by harming those same partners).

What's bad for Dell is bad for Microsoft. If you were them, you'd retaliate. Windows sales for Mac systems are NOT going to even register a blip on MS's radar -- preventing it won't hurt them. For that matter, they should announce that they don't support Apple hardware, wait a year, and then publish the patch, just so they can hear the Appleheads cry about how they paid for it and NOW it doesn't work.

This is an opportunity for MS to get what they want from Apple - a move toward fair competitive practices by licensing FairPlay. As usual, MS will blow it, but you gotta hope for good over evil.

WRONG.
MS has it's own DRM...WMA. Licensing Apples Fairplay would kill MS's ability to license WMA. What profit does MS make from licensing Fairplay? None. Apple is not selling Windows or supporting Windows. Anyone can buy A Windows license that wants to. MS will not stop them. MS has to support their own software. Most Mac users will not buy Windows. People that like Apple's OS & Hardware will use it as a transitional OS. If they don't like OSX...well they have not lost anything on their investment they can run Windows. Does MS support Windows on a box that is built by a user? What's the difference between that & supporting it on Apple Hardware? Apple Makes it's money on Hardware. All the software that Apple sells & gives away is to push hardware sales. That is where their profit lies. Letting Dell, HP sell OSX would hurt their profit margins. I'm not saying it won't happen...just not now. Windows is open...you're funny. Do some research on OSX...it may suprise you on how much "Open" technologies it uses. Look up darwin on Mac OSX to start. All this does is take away the fear of losing you're Windows investment. Apple just took away another reason for not buying a Mac. Apple is in business to make a profit. Hardware is where Apple makes a profit. Your point of view is childish & ignorant. This pretty much sums it up...read it & learn something.

http://daringfireball.net/2006/04/asinine_and_or_risky_ideas

Apr 10, 06 - 08:30 pm Comment from: Bill Gates

Why are you here reality check? Cruising? Bend over I'll drive you to Cleveland.

Apr 10, 06 - 09:47 pm Comment from: do not fear

g4 and g5 just get http://www.iemulator.com

Apr 10, 06 - 10:37 pm Comment from: Sammy

I laugh when MDN refers to Apple with "superior" hardware compared to Windows based PC's. Talk about being blind up the ass.

The entire current Mac lineup lags behind high end PC's in every technological segment....CPU/graphics/memory/etc...

Macs are designed better? With what, made in China parts? Apple even licenses ASUS (PC vendor) to make their ibooks for them.

MDN....blowing so much smoke every single day.

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