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Nov 03, 09 - 10:49 am Comment from: iPhoner

I just ordered the iMac i7 (woohoo!) but I have a feeling that the magic mouse will soon join it's brethren on eBay within a day or two. I'll definitely give it a real chance though.

Nov 03, 09 - 10:55 am Comment from: Wade Smith

I daresay it will impossible to use another sort of mouse after using the Magic Mouse.

In my opinion Apple blew it with the new iMacs mouse and keyboard. The keyboard felt flimsy and cheap to me and has no heft if you want to hold it in your lap. Also, it looks ridiculously small and out of proportion when sitting in front of the 27 inch. Also the mouse was
too small and I have small hands. I was so disappointed I decided I wasn't getting the new iMac.

no way to trigger Expose is a glaring faux pas - had i know this up front, i'd have not wasted the money

The 2-finger swipe works just fine for me. You have to use a light touch. Just like the iPhone, you eventually realize that you can use a very light touch to tap out messages.

I love my magic mouse. Check out my review on iMacazine.com

Nov 03, 09 - 11:09 am Comment from: Time Space Light

Why not tap to click? Why a physical mouse button?

Nov 03, 09 - 11:11 am Comment from: Time Space Light

Works better than my Mighty Mouse. Omnidirectional scrolling in all applications, something the Mighty Mouse would never do for me.

Nov 03, 09 - 11:12 am Comment from: MaLvado

my thumb and pinky naturally rest on each side of the mouse keeping the mouse from moving while swiping. no problems here.

I grabbed one off the shelf at the Apple store then tried one connected to a new iMac. This was 15 or 20 minutes after putting on some hand lotion (it's winter, ya know). It was impossible to use. The surface is TOO smooth just like the glass trackpads on new MacBooks. I put the mouse back on the shelf.

The 27" iMac doesn't seem a lot bigger than the 24". It's nice that they went to 16:9 vs 16:10. It was really bothering me that there were those black areas above and below the movies I'd watch at work. And having all of that vertical space to see more lines of code bothered me even more. I won't be buying a 27" iMac either.

Nov 03, 09 - 11:21 am Comment from: Yours Smugly

@ Time Space Light:
"Why not tap to click?"

You'd have to constantly lift your index finger to click. Welcome, CTS.

I've been using the Magic Mouse for two weeks now and love it. On my next voyage to the Apple Store, I will definitely get my previous iMac a Magic Mouse, too.
I do miss the hot keys, but maybe Apple can add those in a form similar to hot corners via firmware updates. For now, I am using hot corners. I really want pinching added! I can't believe they didn't include this originally since it works so well on trackpads and iPhones already. With the huge resolution on this screen, it makes the text smaller, so I really would like to be able to use the pinch/pull gestures to zoom in and out, rather than the clunky Control key method.
Using the two finger swipe does not move the Magic Mouse at all for me. I mostly have it sitting on a mouse pad, but sometimes use it just on my wood desk.
If you're moving the mouse with the two finger swipes, you are doing it WAY to heavily handed. Even with the scrolling, the lighter the touch the faster it scrolls.

I feel the magic mouse is the best mouse apple has ever made. I was really weary of the mouse and keyboard that came with my 21.5, but have found them a real joy to use. The mouse works great and the scrolling is so smooth. I do hope that apple adds a third button function. The swipe function is very useful and Im finding myself using it all the time. I did find I have to use a mouse pad so the mouse does move as much when I swipe.
The keyboard is small and thin, but feels real sturdy to me. Im not really sure what Anthony001. If he wants hefty tape some weights to the back of the keyboard that would add some heft.

TO MASTER the "two finger swipe" (no, my MOM did not master the two finger swipe) just curl your two fingers and use the mid-section of the mouse. No accidental click-age.

Third button, please.

MDN MW "years", as in "I've been using three buttons for too many years to give it up now".

No Expose.. basically makes this a pretty paperweight.

Jeez, this board is full of trolls today. I have a hunch that at least some of you have not even tried it out, yet you feel equipped to pass judgment.

What a lot of you Luddites don't understand is that Apple can update the new Magic Mouse with - get ready - software updates. Just by learning from customer feedback, Apple can make further enhancements, and that's exciting. Try doing that with a scroll wheel.

The other thing is that let's face it, folks: we're tifosi (Google that). Railbirds. Whiners. We're not like the rest of the people buying Macs. We expect the moon and the stars, nitpick everything, and think we know more than Steve Jobs. If we did, we would be Steve Jobs, but instead, we're a bunch of losers with a mortgage and an old car. Go to the mirror, boy. See what you see? It ain't Steve Jobs.

So enough of your whining. If you're going to buy a Magic Mouse, be patient. Otherwise, enjoy your Microsoft mouse.

Have a nice day, frigtards.

Nov 03, 09 - 12:13 pm Comment from: ok4ever

You have to give the Magic Mouse a few days to get all the gestures down smoothly. I was disappointed with many aspects of the mouse at first but now I am hooked and hate using older mice. Hold the mouse while you swipe. It doesn't feel normal because you've never done it before. Like I said, give it a few days and you'll never go back.

Nov 03, 09 - 12:15 pm Comment from: Jubei

I bet Microsoft will introduce a new mouse called

"Microsoft InHellimouse"

I have been happily using a Microsoft Intellimouse for years - perfect ergonomically for me. So good I that I cannot believe it is a MS product.

I loved the Magic Mouse concept when it was announced. I really like the Magic Mouse in practice, too, but it is also a little too light for me and a little too small for my hand. I think it is just a learning curve, though. It will take a few months (MM at home, MSIM at work) to see if one wins out over the other.

Nov 03, 09 - 12:19 pm Comment from: Predrag

Spike,

I don't know what kind of Mac were you using that came with three buttons, but as far as the Mac community is concerned, single-button mouse was the norm until OS X showed up (supporting optional two-button mice), and until the new MagicMouse provided the first device with secondary click support as a standard. Never was a three-button mouse included or even available as an option.

Even in the Windows world, with the exception of very few hardware makers, vast majority today has a two-button mouse, with a scroll wheel (sometimes the wheel is clickable).

Nov 03, 09 - 12:22 pm Comment from: Predrag

..."and until the new MagicMouse provided the first device with secondary click"...

Make that Mighty Mouse...

Anthony007,

The tiny Apple keyboard can be swapped out for the full-size Apple keyboard at no cost. The same with the Magic Mouse for the Mighty Mouse (Apple Mouse now). Neither are wireless anymore, but it can be done. And it's hardly a reason to not buy a computer like that. Especially when other keyboards and mice are easy to locate, both online and in stores.

Each to their own. I use a Macally icekey and a Logitech MX400 with my Mac Pro after the original keyboard and Mighty Mouse pooped out. Couldn't be more pleased with the performance and price. Cheers...

Having tried this at an Apple Store, I can honestly say I found the two finger swipe incredibly easy. No problems here, and for that reason I went ahead and bought one. And since I rarely if ever use Expose (although I do now use the Dock icon Expose thingy in Snow Leopard), this also does not bother me.

I used X on Unix workstations long before I switched to Macs in 2003 (and VAX workstations before that, lest you doubt my old-fogeyness). Never gave much thought to Macs until OS X, and when I finally got one I quickly consigned the single-button mouse to the nearest junk drawer.

The mouse functions beautifully, got mine a couple of days ago. The only thing I don't understand is the rails on the bottom. What I haven't heard mentioned in the incredible amount of noise it makes when moving the mouse.

On my wood desk its not too bad, but at my office, which has some sort of hard surface, it sounds like I'm sanding. Once everyone there gets one, which will be shortly, the room will be filled with the sounds of mouse sanding.

@drMSSDB

What one earth are you talking about. This thing it like a white rock. It has an incredibly solid feel and heft. Its actually kind of heavy.

Personally, I think the low profile is ideal ergonomically, and I have large hands. (Arnold Schwartzenegger sized according to the wall at the Planet Hollywood casino in Vegas.

The design allow the mouse to fit into your hand without any cocking of the wrist. Basically my palm, pinky and thumb are all resting on the table

Someone be intellectually honest on this board for once. The small, light, flimsy keyboard looks cheap and is ridiculously out of proportion when placed in front of the 27 inch iMac. I realize you can get the keypad version that's longer but compare this keyboard with the more solidly built keyboard that came with my 2007 iMac. I know, I can still use that with this 27 iMac. That isn't the point. The point is the new keyboard looks stupid in front of the giant 27 screen.

but the forward/back is not.

Guess which one we all use more? I’ll take awesome scrolling any day.

I just hit command [ ] to go forward and back anyway.

Nov 03, 09 - 01:44 pm Comment from: Deus Ex Technica

@anthony007

I see your point about keyboard proportion. It doesn't look quite right next to that big monitor, but it DOES look great on your lap, with your 27" iMac a few feet away on a TV stand.

When you think about that, and how the new wireless mouse acts as a touchpad when it's sitting oon the couch next to you (no complaints about 2-finger swiping when your mouse doesn't slide sideways), you can really see what Apple is up to here.

If that's not the way you intend to use the iMac, consider the proportion issue to be a great excuse to get another input device to fill the gap (Bamboo or mixer board?).

Cheers...

Nov 03, 09 - 01:45 pm Comment from: Deus Ex Technica

@anthony007

By the way, that little aluminum keyboard feels anything but cheap. Go to the Apple Store and check one out - it's a sweet, solid piece of Apple engineering.

Nov 03, 09 - 01:48 pm Comment from: Brau

Funny how Apple is touting their green status so aggressively these days and yet opts not to offer a corded (battery-less) model. I guess the batteries their customers are forced to buy and discard don't count.

No buttons for Expose/dashboard and no corded version = one swipe forward and two swipes back.

great potential... but no center-click/side-squeeze for expose and spaces = no deal. sorry.

Nov 03, 09 - 05:48 pm Comment from: Me In LA

@MDN take: WD-40.

Nov 03, 09 - 07:22 pm Comment from: Arnold Ziffel

Got my Magic Mouse Friday at the Apple Store at La Cantera in San Antonio, and it is an instant hit in our household.

I totally don't get complaints about the rails making grinding noises, etc. My Magic Mouse makes almost the same exact sounds as my mouse formerly-known-as-Mighty-Mouse.

I'm finding scrolling to be effortless and smooth, much better than the scroll ball, with which I was satisfied.

Yeah, there are definitely trolls venturing out in the neighborhood today.

Rechargable batteries!! I've been using the same dozen rechargable batteries for years! You can buy the batteries and chargers all over the place!

We do not totally agree with Bangeman's assessment of the two-finger swipe. Unless you use a very light touch, two finger swiping can cause the very light Magic Mouse to slide and therefore can be more of a pain than it's worth
How dare these scumbags at MDN write something critical about an Apple product. This is a Fanboy site, where only sycophantic praise of all things Mac is allowed, coupled with snide attempts to humiliate anyone who dares be anything other than 110% pro Apple. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Nov 04, 09 - 03:33 am Comment from: British Mac Head

PMSL it's fake Rob.
Hey I've been using a corded full size aluminium keyboard on my Mac Pro and one of the smaller Bluetooth ones with the Mac Mini next to it for many months and the handyness of the BT one is awesome. If anything it makes the 27" iMac look even bigger. Is that such a bad thing? I also use a Wacom Bamboo as a mouse. Mainly because a real mouse was starting to make my wrist ache pretty badly. Well I think it was the mouse!

Nov 05, 09 - 02:07 pm Comment from: neomonkey

Hey MDN, the plural of mouse is mice, not mouses. And you can send your 'retired' Mighty Mice to me. Thanks.

@Anthony

Anyone who chooses a computer based on its peripherals sounds like a Windows user.