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May 23, 08 - 09:27 am Comment from: Jamie

Someone in Australia is about to lose their job for squalking.

darn that non-disclosure agreement!!! doh! doh!!

Not anymore. Count Australia out after this exec spilled the beans.

And now we wait

3G is indeed FAST, I have a notebook on it now.

Hopefully iPhone 2.0 will address the needs of many, so we won't have to wait for iPhone 3.0.

I assume Apple also learned a valuable lesson, not to assume they got it right the first time, to manufacture 10 million at the first pop and then have to discount them AND wait several years, before releasing the next version.

The cell phone market moves much faster. Apple has to release new iPhone versions at least every six months mandatory.

I think it is all part of a finely orchestrated plan by the good folks in Cupertino to ramp up excitement over the next few weeks.

And it could also signal better speed for the US as well...

Mad Mac Maniac,

"Several years?" Get real. Try "one year," you fool.

And another thing

Apple needs to make the iPhone 2.0 in different sizes. Small medium and large.

Small: For those who don't need a whole lot and want slim size

Medium: Present iPhone size

Large: Larger screen, more storage and memory. Computer like in almost every detail. Sure it might look like a small box being held up to one's ear to make a call, but most will be using iChat instead.

Plus BIGGER is better. Just ask any SUV driver.

May 23, 08 - 09:38 am Comment from: Ampar

Jobs: "What time is it in Melbourne? I need to make a call. It's what? 12:36 AM? That's o.k. I'll wake him up."

Mad Mac Maniac,

You're obviously a friggin' genius.

Apple should fire Jobs immediately and replace him with you.

While I'm complaining.

Why the hell doesn't Apple offer a low grade version of TV shows?

It's not like high speed is everywhere and I'm tired of wardriving to find a open high speed connection.

LISTEN APPLE!! Glossy screens s*ck &ss;too.

Thank you for hearing my whine. I got some cheeze whiz too. LOL

I'm mad...thus my name.

May 23, 08 - 09:42 am Comment from: Spark

@Mad Mac Maniac
A new iPhone version every six months? That would be ridiculously counterproductive.

i don't know why you can't use 2-3 phones using 1 number. that way, i can grab a small phone when i go out at night, use the regular sized iphone during the day. that would be much easier than switching sim card every time.

May 23, 08 - 09:43 am Comment from: Ampar

" . . . AND wait several years, before releasing the next version."

What kind of crappy calendar are you using?

Or does several mean one in your language?


The iPhone was released for sale on June 29th, 2007.

@mad mac maniac

Your post isnt credible.
Several years? WTF are you talking about? The iPhone has NOT been discounted, has been out LESS than a year, has sold like hotcakes.
Sorry - what planet did you come from?

Er..actually, they DID get it right first time, They almost always do.

'needs of many'? Thats like, you and your girlfriend?

'The cell market moves faster' NO, it moves at a glacial pace, they just stick a new cheap camera in, change the shape, and still all the phones are CRAP.
Apple have finally shown the world what a cell phone can be - and the rest cant do it.

Stupid post - go away.

42mbps!@&?

Who would have thought - my entire household and business internet connection running from a mobile phone...

Apple should make three iphone sizes?

Yeah, one to sell, one for you and one for your girlfriend.

Please STFU.

You all mean to tell me the iPhone has only been out a measly year?

Jesus, your right. It feels like it's been several years. Probably because I want one, but it's not filling any needs I have in it's present configuration.

So yes they need to come out with better versions every six months to keep the hype alive. A year has been too long to wait.

And no the iPhone 1.0 is not right.

My throat crushing huge fingers can't hit the tiny fairy ass keys.

Stupid. Give me tactile feel of a real keyboard. Then I can adjust pressure to make sure my entry is correct.

not the hit and correct then try hitting again method of the iPhone keyboard.

stuff like that. you know, what makes the crackberry so popular.

May 23, 08 - 09:50 am Comment from: Predrag

I have to respond to this; Mad Mac Maniac, your comment sounds like it had come from another planet, and that is probably because your personal preference for what iPhone should be has not been met with the first version.

If there is any lesson Apple could have learned from the first iPhone, it would be not to change ANYTHING. IPhone, in its first version was an unprecedented success. Never in the history of gadgetry has any device ever sold so fast in such huge numbers. Not PSP, not StarTAC when it appeared years ago, not RAZR, nothing. And this was a device that initially cost $500! It broke all records. Its customer satisfaction numbers are significantly higher than any other mobile phone out there. in all markets where it was sold, it sold quickly. The only time sales begun to show early signs of slowing was when rumours started about the imminent 3G iPhone, and even this was mostly in EU markets (UK, FR, GE), where they might have preferred it to be 3G in the first place (not that it wasn't selling briskly before that).

Every once in a while, someone comes on these boards and states flat-out that iPhone was a failure, or partly a failure, because it lacked this, that or the other (usually 3G, GPS and physical keyboard, in addition to non-exclusive carriers), and that Apple should learn from this. Obviously, they would personally like that some of those perceived shortcomings were addressed. However, this doesn't automatically negate the numbers. We've seen them on MDN many, many times.

If iPhone 3G keeps exactly the same specs as iPhone 2.5G (with the only addition being 3G), it will sell extremely fast. Mour Mad Mac Maniac here will probably not buy it, as it will be missing something that he wants. I am sure, though that 30 - 40 million other people will buy it in the next 6 - 12 months.

And to chime in on the subject, I don't think anyone will lose their job (or break a contract with Apple) for 'spilling the beans' on iPhone distribution. So many have already announced this out there, and with Apple not even selling the existing model anymore, there is no more doubt that it is coming very soon.

MDN, can't you engineer it for us to be able to slap an "IGNORE THIS" sticker on the more inane posts here?

Mad Mac Maniac's is one good example.

Today's grammy, emmy, and nobel prize goes to Mad Mac Maniac. Everybody deserves a bad day...er, for him, a really bad day.

May 23, 08 - 09:55 am Comment from: Ampar

"My throat crushing huge fingers can't hit the tiny fairy ass keys."


Now I get it!

If one's ape-like, fat fingers are better suited to use a Blackberry then order your Bold and be happy.

May 23, 08 - 10:01 am Comment from: HMCIV

To quote Bill Gates: "Steve is so known for his restraint."

Nice knowing ya Mr. Australian Executive.

Hey, I'm a consumer. I have spent a small fortune on Apple toys and when something doesn't meet my needs I say something.

Hopefully Apple will get the message and do things BETTER NEXT TIME.

It's you brainwashed "Apple can't do no wrong" that got the problem. Apple is just a company catering to OUR needs, but you all seem to think you need to be buying their poorly designed products to meet THEIR needs.

Doesn't work like that. Apple as a result HASN'T been listening to the needs of the consumers. It automatically assumes it knows what is right FOR US.

For instance, can't self change the battery in your new Apple devices resulting in premature hardware replacement?

That's what I'm talking about. Things like that.

@ Mad Mac Maniac Re: iPhone Design

Two words for you: Black Pencil.

If you don't know what that means, you just don't 'get it'

Here's a clue.

May 23, 08 - 10:05 am Comment from: Cubert

@Mad Mac Maniac,

"Plus BIGGER is better."

I know. That's what your girlfriend said when I asked her why she liked sleeping with me more than you. She also made some reference to microsoft when talking about you, but I don't think she meant the company.

With the new Intel chip Mac's, you can't trust your computer anymore because a installed software may install something into EFI. A powerful firmware level with complete access to your hard drive and the internet with out the OS even knowing about it.

And what about glossy screens? Over 80% prefer matte screens over glossy.

(anti-glare screens were not invented for nothing you know)

Apple hasn't been listening lately and sure their stocks are up on speculation, but if their products fail to deliver on people's needs, why spend money on them?

I've nearly given up on a lot of Apple lately, it's like they went off on a dirt road into the desert somewhere.

Area 51.

Jesus mad Mac Maniac, as I was replying to you twaddle about the design of the iPhone, you post more diatribe.

How does a non-use replaceable battery result in premature hardware replacement? Do you not know you can get the battery in any iPhone, iPod or MacBook Air replaced at any Apple Store or Third Party Apple Provider?

Get the facts before shooting your mouth off boy, and you might walk away from this with some of your credibility intact.

Also, Apple do a fine job of showing the consumer what they need. As Henry Ford famously said about producing cars for the first time “If I’d asked my customers what they wanted, they’d have said a faster horse."

Consumers need guidance. if the products are good, the consumers will buy. iPhone has been a phenomenal success. Case closed.

Do you not know you can get the battery in any iPhone, iPod or MacBook Air replaced at any Apple Store or Third Party Apple Provider?

Boy how I love it when they fall into the trap.

Yes I KNOW the battery can be replaced, but unless the masses come across this information, THEY DON"T KNOW AND ASSUME THEY NEED A NEW DEVICE!!

With a battery slot, EVERY USER AUTOMATICALLY KNOWS THEY CAN REPLACE THE BATTER THEMSELVES. And instead of waiting forever while their machine gets sent off, losing valuable time and not to mention privacy issues, the common user can replace the battery themselves at the local electonic supply store.

CHECKMATE!! FOOLS.

May 23, 08 - 10:18 am Comment from: Ampar

"Over 80% prefer matte screens over glossy."

Where's the link to a reliable source?

(Self surveys don't count.)

The problem with Apple is they are making their product so VERTICAL, that you can't do anything unless you go through THEM.

This allows them to control your hardware turnover and prices.

I don't know who is worse, Microsoft or Apple.

At least with M$ one has a choice of hardware vendors.

With Apple you have little hardware choice.

God I love them, but it's getting really bad lately.

May 23, 08 - 10:22 am Comment from: Predrag

Some user names are more telling that others. We should be more attuned to that...

Over 80% prefer matte screens over glossy.

I know you know the answer because you have been here a long time and have seen the link before.

But for the rest here it is.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061018-8022.html

Feel free to Google "MacPolls", "MacSlash" for "glossy" "matte" and see for yourselves WHAT THE MAC PUBLIC WANTS!!

Matte screens rule!!

"Yes I KNOW the battery can be replaced, but unless the masses come across this information, THEY DON"T KNOW AND ASSUME THEY NEED A NEW DEVICE!!"

Never assume, it makes an ASS out of U and ME.

Dude, put the crack pipe down. If you don't ask questions, you never find answers. If consumers would rather blindly walk in and buy a new device instead of asking a simple question (can the battery be replaced?) then that's their problem.

I bet you're the guy who took McDonalds to court because the coffee was too hot, and now every coffee shop has to put WARNING: HOT COFFEE on every cup of hot coffee so idiots like you don't scald themselves.

May 23, 08 - 10:25 am Comment from: The DataDude

Can we ignore Mad Mac Maniac and move on? (his reference to glossy screen complaints was the tip-off to me).

I've got a REAL problem - take a look at where my house is located:

http://www.thedatadude.com/eg_att_coverage_map.jpg

See the red "X" in the middle of all that white space? - that's where I live. I'd LOVE to get an iPhone but wouldn't be able to use it in my home or neighborhood. My wife has one, but only uses it for phone calls when she is "out and about".

Anybody have any suggestions? Should I call AT&T;and ask them to "fill in the white space"?

May 23, 08 - 10:26 am Comment from: 7over

As excellent as the first version of the iPhone is, it's not 'everything' that Apple wanted it to be...else there would be no need for another version. Since Apple is coming out with a new improved iPhone, the first one must have needed some tweaking.

As outstanding as iPhone 2 will no doubt be, there will also be areas that Apple will want to improve upon and they will no doubt come out with an iPhone 3... and so on. Not a big deal is it?

I did not purchase iPhone V1 because I knew that Apple would likely learn some things from their first move into the cell phone market (not counting the *wonderful ROKR...but they obviously learned from that too!) and would make some improvements to V2. Even though all we have to go on is RUMOR at this point, I will be in line at my Apple store to purchase the new improved iPhone the day it launches.

Apple CAN do 'wrong' the first time and they have done so in the past... but on those occasions, they usually fix the issues with v2 and stand behind v1 with excellent service.
(I cite the aluminum iMac and its "random shutdown" issue as one recent example)

While I don't agree that iPhone needs a 'real' keyboard, nor do they need to come out with new models every 6 months, there are improvements to be made. ... and I wait with eager anticipation for those improvements as embodied in iPhone 2!

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May 23, 08 - 10:28 am Comment from: Predrag

And luckily for us stock holders, Apple has obviously delivering spectacularly all over the place (although we are still waiting on AppleTV to deliver true potential). MacBook Air? Flying off the shelves (out of stock for the most part); iPhone? Already discussed to death. Macs? growing twice as fast as any competitor in the market.

Apple, please don't change anything. My AAPL stock has doubled just about a year. I want it to double again!

MaMac Maniawrites, "And what about glossy screens? Over 80% prefer matte screens over glossy." And over 80% prefer - or at least buy - Windows. What does that prove?

Actually, I'm starting to warm to a glossy, if done right. My 17" LCD/TV monitor went on me after only three years, so I was thrown back in the market. None of the mattes caught my attention. I went for an LG 22", but took it back due to color shifts when even slightly off access. It was also *very* reflective. I took it back, then ordered an HP W2007. Nice colors, color shifts and reflectivity not as bad. I think I'll keep it.

A former colleague, once dismissive of Macs until a catastrophic failure of his Windows PC, made the leap to a 24" iMac and loves it. I've yet to hear him say "If only it weren't glossy..."

May 23, 08 - 10:33 am Comment from: Ampar

"Over 80% prefer matte screens over glossy.
I know you know the answer because you have been here a long time and have seen the link before. But for the rest here it is."

Lenovo ran an unscientific online poll. The link to the poll is 404 Not Found.

You Failed Again. CHECKMATE ! !

BTW, have you considered chlorpromazine?

May 23, 08 - 10:51 am Comment from: MizuInOz

I just finally got a jailbroke iPhone and all I can say id Phuuuuuuquqe! What an amazing machine. The guy I got it from here in Oz has been selling 1000 to 2000 a month! For $995! AUD which is pretty on parity with the USD now. It works seamlessly with my carrier (Optus - who has a recorded iPhone announcement when you call for support. They have techs in place already to support the iPhone. One helped me get the data plan ($50 unlimited) all set up with no problems. No hesitation.

And the phone!!1 The best reception I have ever had with any phone. I live close to an event horizon for mobile phone reception.

M3 (cubed) you need to actually hold one in your hands before you complain. That is all I will say to your litany of diatribes that IMHO made no cogent point except that you pulled a Hillary - you got heaps of attention but still lost in the end.

That is not a sexist comment BTW, it is a behavioural observation.

Cheers...

Why would Apple make a small phone? Mobile phones are crap, and apple don't make them. The only reason the iPhone has a mobile built into it is because that'e the only way Apple can get a lot of people to buy them, essentially it's just an iPod touch with a phone tacked on--the phone part is among the least important bits and only there to fill the gap until we have overcome the retardation caused by the cellular companies protection of their businesses. Cellphones are 1990s crap.

May 23, 08 - 11:48 am Comment from: Cubert

@The DataDude,
HAH! I'm coming to get you!

May 23, 08 - 11:49 am Comment from: studentrights

If they are making it that fast, you'll be able to hook it up to your Mac for an internet connection. You heard it here first.

May 23, 08 - 12:09 pm Comment from: The DataDude

@Cubert
>> HAH! I'm coming to get you!

No problem - just bring along a 3G iPhone for me

May 23, 08 - 12:10 pm Comment from: simple

Mad Mac Maniac is ZuneTang® trying out a new persona. Zuny just can't keep up with his MS BS anymore.

May 23, 08 - 12:27 pm Comment from: feral

@simple
exactly !
or Afib is that you...?!

Mad Mac Maniac.
The dumbest fucking troll in a long while,
(and secretly loves Vista.)

May 23, 08 - 01:31 pm Comment from: Jim - TIV

Mad Mac Maniac is MacDude/Peterson

EFI fear, glossy screens, double spaced posts, poor spelling and grammar.

Same story, different handle. This has been his schtick for years on this site.

May 23, 08 - 02:10 pm Comment from: grh

This is not so much a news item about Apple's 3G iPhone. It's more a fatuous, self-promoting and probably wildly-exaggerated bit of waffle from Telstra.

May 23, 08 - 05:33 pm Comment from: Connor MacBook

If Telstra is involved, it'll also have the most expensive data plans in the world!