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"more tougher"?!?!

fffffffft. right

Perhaps it was Jack Sparrow? in the iTunes movie store??

Wasn't Vista supposed to be uncrackable?

Its always the Pirates. And since Disney produced Pirates of the Caribean and Steve Jobs is now on the Board for Disney it all can go back to Apple being the root cause of poor Vista sales.

Arrrrgg!

No wonder these guys see eye-to-eye with the RIAA. Pussies like they will always find a boogeyman to blame.

Maybe if they made Vista "more gooder" then more people would buy it.

Ballmer is a loon.

1. He's there because he was friends with Bill in college (though Bill dropped out)
2. He's emotionally unstable
3. He completely misunderstands Microsoft's position in the world
4. He does not know anything about the concept of "creative destruction" which would be central to the process of re-invention for his company.
5. He really needs to keep his tongue in his mouth...

Unless you have an almost brand new box, who would go out and pay for Vista upgrade?

The lack of family pack pricing is ludicrous, especially considering you either have to buy the dumbed down version to get it to run on your older hardware, or spend more money than your pc is worth trying to upgrade the hardware.

I have 8 older PC's at my office and home. It would cost roughly $1,400 just to upgrade, some to Vista Business and some to Vista basic. And none of them would be able to run full blown vista.

Fortunately all my future upgrades will be to Macs anyway.

That picture of Ballmer made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

arrrrr!!!!! shiver me timbers

hmmmmm......piracy, pirates, pirates of the carribean, disney movies, animated, animated movies, pixar

I GOT IT! an animated movie about a pirate who steals from a partner and takes over the world!

no no wait, thats real life....hold on.... okay her it is steve say this at the next event:

" so what has our competitor been up to recently? lets take a look, so far vista has been hacked 70 times and its only been out for a little less than three months, OSX has never been compromised and as people are getting more and more conscious of security this is what is the most important feature they are looking for, so today we are introducing the genuine apple advantage tool, which when downloaded and installed on your mac will automatically find windows based computers and send them a short article caling the computer a weiner! IPHONE BITCH!!!!"

That's funny. Everyone I have talked to says VISTA is the reason for Vista's slow sales.

Vista is way too expensive for what you get. Especially in Europe even with a strong Euro!!!

If you haven't....

Refresh this page a few times

the picture changes...and it's hilarious EVERY time

Yay me.

MDN MW "Provide", as in "I was happy to provide the link to this article on Ballmer's clear understanding of Vista's poor sales to MDN."

What a douche bag.

LMAO! That picture is HILARIOUS!!!

Pirates of the Carribean III: VISTA SUCKS. Aaargh!!

Alright, i think it might just be overly-optimistic market analysis on M$' part let alone the fact that was many have stated before, it really doesn't offer too much more then XP. Some winblows users are also trying to find any excuse they can to justify getting vista. One of my friends actually bought the upgrade for home premium edition and he said one of the new "features" he liked was that he can now move files in explorer to different locations at the same time......to quote those crappy cox commercials sounds like "buyer's remorse" to me.

Also the pirating community has not been able to fully crack vista yet, just implementing 30-day timestop programs which have to be rerun every 30 days, aka not a permanent fix. So Ballmer is talking out his rectum as usual.

where do you find these pictures of Ballmer? genius.

VISTA is not just any old dog of a OS, its a pirate sea dog.

Next he will be blaming the stores for not giving it prominent shelf space. The local PC World stores have shelves full of all the various flavours of VISTA - and that's the problem - they're full because no one is buying!!

Then it will be that the packaging is too much like XP.

Vista is Microsoft's short sword and Microsoft's belly is slit and its guts are snaking out. When people actually get Vista to install and "work" they will then discover the true depths of DRM hell. You couldn't invent a better corporate suicide plan than Vista.

Oh, man, I am fully into the Ballmer RDF. Everything is spinning ......and the pretty colors .......I ..love .the ..world. Everything you tell me is true.
I feel so good. It's like my naked body is being bathed in warm liquid milk chocolate.
I loveOh, oh, wait a second..Shit..Aaawww fk. somebody stole my operating system.

If Balmer thinks Vista sales have tanked.. wait till Leopard gets released ...

"..... Vista ?? .. What's that ?......."

"Quick ... hand me that chair !"

MW = "love" ..... Doncha just love it ??

oh my, to put things in perspective, even though Vista sales may be slow. They have likely alread sold more copies of Vista than Mac OSX's entire installed user base. Vista only needs to sell to 5% of its user base to surpass sales of Apples entire base.

Thats BULL SHIT, I live in Mexico, where you can buy pirated windows XP all over ($30.00) for a copied disk.

I havent even seen Vista anywhere! and I am talking about the MS original. seems you would have to have some penetration, to copy something.

Now I will admit, That I pirate Mac OS10 !! let me explain, I went to the States last July, purchased an iMac 20" core duo, brougt back with me and paid 15% duty (fine).

This December, Apple was avaible at Office Max, I purchased a 17" for my kids at $17,900 peso ($1,640 us vs $1,190 us in the States) I called Apple an asked about an "English replacement OS for the Spanish, they said they could not supply me with one, "And could not sell me one in Mexico"

So I used my english version for my kids, and since Xmas have done the same for two other ex-pats , who purchased Macs here at a premium, but need in English.

Wheres Zune Tang when you need him ?

Oh Zun-ie !!

First of all

Anything new tends to have glitches and bugs that take months, even years to work out.

Second of all, everything from Microsoft is insecure and buggy beyond the early release regardless.

Third of all, XP is working fine for most, M$ based IT is dead afraid of something that does work reliabily because it might cost them their large staff, or even their jobs. So they will put Vista off, and the hardware upgrade required of it, as long as possible.

@ Perspective

And what happens when those who have already purchased Vista
realize all the advertised "features" in Vista, arent "features" at all,
and the word gets out to other prospective buyers ?

Surely even you must admit this will have an impact on future sales ...

Now why does the old adage .."Rats leaving a sinking ship" .. come to mind ?

Gee, what's my main reason for not upgrading to Vista on my test machine ? Oh yeah... It's that the VM running XP SP2 on my iMac now tells me that I " may be a victim of software counterfeiting. The Windows product key installed on this computer is not genuine.

http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Pirate_Flag.txt

Perspective,
to put your 5% nonsense into perspective,

That would be about 20 million people who are now living with a botched ripoff of Mac OS X that doesn't even do what it's advertised to do; and about 20 million people living the good life with the real Mac OS X and loving everything it has to offer.

How many times do we have to say it? more≠better and quality>quantity.

Any day now, IBM, HP, Dell, Gateway, Acer, etc will announce that they are shifting to ubuntu, and MS will need to port office, exchange, etc. over to linux, or die.

DIE, I TELL YOU!!!

So say we all?

Sometimes it takes "Zune Tang" a little time to create something believably obtuse yet amusing. He's been doing a pretty good job of it so far, so give him a break, OK? Not everything lends itself to tongue-in-cheeck.

Low sales due to piracy? Guys, your numbers were based on numbers for the heavily-pirated XP, how can you now claim "oh, it's being pirated!"? That's not at all obvious, oh, NO. When much of your sales go to business systems, you need to anticipate that the larger shops will buy A copy, or two or three, for IT to crunch through in the lab. If even one of those IT guys enjoys pod-casts and links to PodOmatic, that's weeks off while they try to sus out what's going wrong with IE7! They have a Working Solution and can certainly wait until SP1 before they get heavily into Project Vista.

DLMeyer - the Voice of G.L.Horton's Stage Page

PS: MW "took"? as in Merriweather?

Pirates of Silicon Valley II: The Rise and Fall of Captain Silver Turd

Unfortunately for Microsoft there just isn't a lot of legacy hardware out there that meets the requirements for Vista.

I don't know that we have more than one machine in the whole office that meets the minimum requirements for Vista, and none that have a good enough graphics card for Aero--and why the hell would an office need Aero for its secretaries anyway? And without Aero what does Vista really offer?

There isn't an realistic upgrade marked for Vista; Vista is going to be sold primarily as an OEM installation with new machines that would have been sold with XP anyway.

yes, it's those indian and chinese citizens who make $5000/year who would be buying the $499 Vista if it were not avialable for $2. they are resonsible for the decline in marketshare in the U.S., which is where most ookay. makes perfect sense.

Yeah sure, Ballmer. Blame it on the pirates. ROTFLMAO! I have Windows XP Pro and I don't plan on upgrading to Vista, because of pathetic gaming performance as compared to XP. Sorry Microsoft, but you have a dud on your hands.

Damn pirates! Why can't they pay for shit like everybody else!

@OPj

you are right on the money with this one. that is the reason, at least i know thats the reason my company is considering cancelling the MS contract and going with another firm, more than likely apple since our egineers already use and have used macs for twenty years.

Isnt' MSFT supposed to have great DRM? Ooops, guess not.

HAB

Seems like anything to do with slow sales of any kind of media is blamed on piracy. Funny how that's never been even mentioned when it comes to Apple OSX sales. OSX isn't even copy protected either. No six million long serial number to imput and verify. It just works like the operating system.

I think Vista's pricing and confusing 6 versions has a lot to do with slow sales. To expensive! Get a Mac and when you need to upgrade the operating system it only costs you $129. Client has all the features included so you won't have to buy an update until the next major release.

So, when Ballmer said "pirates" he was referring to Jack Sparrow on iTunes?

"Arrrrrr, thems thar other pirates make us good guys look bad!"

Steve is such an assclown!

My existing PC has plenty of power so I don't need Vista with a bunch of bugs and gotcha's.

Just talked with my insurance agent who got a new PC with Vista installed. She reports it is running very slow and all of the pop ups (cancel or allow?) are getting in her way. She is requesting that her tech guy wipe Vista off of her brand new PC and install XP.

... if I have this straight: regions where software piracry is the norm instead of the exception were a) not anticipted to be hot zones of piracy and b) counted on to be the backbone of Vista sales. Sure. If MS didn't account for the correct piracy rate in those regions, they are idiots, not victims. Not that piracy is right, but when a company is rolling out an expected sales figure, not accounting for the obvious is negligent.

Vista famously employs intrusive DRM to stop customers copying any sort of copyright content.

I somehow doubt that the record labels and film studios will be impressed to discover that Microsoft's mighty DRM is unable to stop people making copies of Vista. If they can't stop people copying Microsoft's stuff, what real protection is likely to be there for third party content ?

Ballmer is being extremely unwise to talk like this. Either he's telling lies to cover up the appalling sales of Vista, or else Vista's DRM isn't good enough to protect itself. Either way it's a bad story for Microsoft.

People don’t steal turds (or Zunes)… chrome-plated or otherwise.

It's happening, the slow disintergration, the denial, the excuses. MS is falling apart, and the boys at the top are scared.