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BBC accused of forcing people to use Microsoft Windows
Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - 09:49 AM EST

"The BBC has been accused of forcing people to use Microsoft operating systems and has been threatened with a complaint to the European Commission," BBC News reports.

The Beeb reports, "The charge concerns the use of Microsoft technology in the corporation's forthcoming iPlayer. The web service, set for launch later this year, allows viewers to watch shows up to 30 days after broadcast. The BBC has said it does intend to allow access to its content from computers with other operating systems [however] a statement from the organisation read: It is not possible to put an exact timeframe on when BBC iPlayer will be available for Mac users. However, we are working to ensure this happens as soon as possible and the BBC Trust will be monitoring progress on a six monthly basis."

"The accusations against the BBC have been made by advocacy group the Open Source Consortium (OSC)," The Beeb reports. "'The BBC has a mandate to provide equal access to people irrespective of platform," said Mark Taylor, president of OSC. 'We don't think it is appropriate to lock people into a particular desktop technology.' The OSC has compared the situation to the BBC offering programmes that only work on certain makes of television."

Full article here.

[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader "Macaday" for the heads up.]

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Jun 26, 07 - 08:52 am Comment from: Jeff

So does nhl.com. Hate that!

Jun 26, 07 - 08:56 am Comment from: Chris ][

In this day and age, there is NO excuse for this sort of thing to happen.

Jun 26, 07 - 09:01 am Comment from: mrmikey

NHL.com?

Works fine here with Safari Beta 3 with Flip 4 Mac installed. No problem. Just watched video highlights of the last game of the Stanley Cup finals. Not even a 'buffering' issue.

Yah. It says WMP 10, but it's not protected stuff.

Jun 26, 07 - 09:08 am Comment from: PM

Always had that doubt whether BBC was with M$. This confirms it.

Jun 26, 07 - 09:13 am Comment from: Macaholic Misanthrope

In the UK, you have to pay an annual license fee for a TV. The money goes to the Beeb. That's why they have no commercials.

Question: If you can watch shows on your computer, why have a TV, and why pay the fee?

Jun 26, 07 - 09:16 am Comment from: M@c

Holy crap...non-iPhone news.

Jun 26, 07 - 09:25 am Comment from: ron

The Beeb is a left wing propaganda purveyor. Fisk 'em!

Jun 26, 07 - 09:32 am Comment from: Toby Belch

As a Brit and a former admirer of the BBC, I've been extremely disappointed with the BBC in the last few years, apropos its relationship with Microsoft.

The BBC has got into bed with a completely discredited, semi-criminal organisation - namely Microsoft.

This is also to be observed in its 'tech' programmes - like 'Click' - which always reveal an anti Mac and pro MS stance.

Shame on you, BBC!

Jun 26, 07 - 09:33 am Comment from: BustingTheSkullsOfIdiots

Ordinarily I would say that a company has a right to make their own decisions, and if they don't support Macs, that's short-sighted and profit-denying, but they have the right. The BCC is supported by the taxpayer, however, so it doesn't have that latitude. It must provide its content so that an overwhelming majority of users can view it.

Jun 26, 07 - 09:34 am Comment from: larry turnauer

The BBC thing is different, as it's an application, and not just a site. A company certainly has every right to choose not to support any platform it so desires, of course. But the Beeb is different in that everyone in Britian with a television is forced by law to pay a license fee to fund BBC operations. I know this may seem terribly governmentally intrusive to American eyes (mine included, initially), but the result is a very high quality media outlet not deeply beholden to outside influence (despite the apparent ties to Micro$oft).

Since they're spending my TV License on a) programming, and b) software to distribute that programming online, they damn well better not exclude my platform, or the respective platforms of the rest of their license holders.

I don't know why they even feel the need to write their own application anyway. They could easily use existing distribution models for this. iTunes would be perfect. Or, oh, I dunno, a website, maybe?

Jun 26, 07 - 09:36 am Comment from: No Squirt For You

MSBBC?

Jun 26, 07 - 09:37 am Comment from: Toby Belch

ron,

you're a redneck!

Please don't blame the world for your failure at school and in your professional life.

Jun 26, 07 - 09:39 am Comment from: larry turnauer

"Click" (formerly "Click Online") is pure crap. It is made by dunces for dunces. Favorite quote:

"Click Online makes Balamory look like Newsnight."

Jun 26, 07 - 10:04 am Comment from: spinaltap

It's not just about iPlayer. BBC archive radio programmes can only be accessed via Real Player or WMA. If such programmes were MP3's they would be accessible via iTunes, vTuner or Rhapsody etc - or directly via devices such as Roku and Squeezebox or dedicated network devices such as those from Yamaha.

Jun 26, 07 - 10:21 am Comment from: Hee Haw

BustingTheSkullsOfIdiots: "It must provide its content so that an overwhelming majority of users can view it."

An overwhelming majority like, you know, maybe 90% of the desktop market?

Jun 26, 07 - 10:22 am Comment from: flappo

the bbc demoed iplayer on a fookin mac screen .

they STOLE the i prefix from apple

FUCK THE BBC

Jun 26, 07 - 11:03 am Comment from: Gandalf

The BBC was created when Britain was trying to hold on to it's empire, you can guess what it's role was and is.

The appearance of fairness and balance is very well done, puts Fox to shame, so cleverly done that BBC get criticised for being left wing when the opposite is true. Neo-Labour corporatism has been the final death blow to the few good people at the BBC who managed to get past the glass ceiling.

The left-right paradigm is false, instead of a line with fascism at one end and communism at the other think of a circle with totalitarianism at the top and libertarianism at the bottom. One route from bottom to top is where corporations take over government via capitalism, the other route is where government takes over corporations via socialism. The roots of the US neo-cons and UK new labour are both firmly communist but they saw the advantage in switching sides, so to speak. But whichever route is taken one essential is control of the media.

Jun 26, 07 - 11:34 am Comment from: Georgy Porgy

B-Biased
B-Belligerent
C-Communistic

I can think of some better words...but I
don't think I should type those.

Jun 26, 07 - 11:44 am Comment from: Another Irish dude

The ITV Network in the UK & Ireland requires an MS windows computer & IE.

How backwards.

Jun 26, 07 - 12:25 pm Comment from: xx

The BBC are liberal asswipes that had their governor, head of news division and one of their lying assdog reports fired for bias reporting and out and out lying.

Now, this bunch of asshat liars, are lying about ever using technology friendly to Macs.

A recent report, COMMISSIONED BY THEM, called them down on thier lying assdog bias, AGAIN.

The BBC are a pile of stinking feces.

Jun 26, 07 - 12:32 pm Comment from: windows lover

bunch of whiners. obviously they will priotize to bring stuff first to windows as it is the DOMINANT os.

Jun 26, 07 - 12:54 pm Comment from: Bloke

[obviously they will priotize to bring stuff first to windows as it is the DOMINANT os.]

Well, that was pretty damn stupid.

Did you miss the part where EVERYONE in the UK has to pay a license fee to fund the Beeb programs — even if they don't have a telly, or choose to never watch.

Everyone is ENTITLED to watch Beeb programs. Regardless of where they are broadcast.

Any bone-basic Telly will work. It HAS To be the same for computers. No brand or feature preferences.

Jun 26, 07 - 01:58 pm Comment from: Khaiyrah

ugh..I was reading this before on BBC tech page. Ive jsut managed to get myself an old iMac so i can finnally abandon Vista for good and I religiously love watching the BBC vids they do...I go to watch them and Its WMP only....So i have to power up my pathetic Dell just to watch a video.... Im glad they're getting pulled up about this... hopefully it will be sorted out soon..

Jun 26, 07 - 03:25 pm Comment from: mfshroom

BBC needs to get their act together on the digital front. Only supporting Windows users for video content and only using Real Player for online radio? Are these people serious?

For such an otherwise modern media organization, that are backwards and screwy as hell in everything digital (I'm surprised they made their websites in html, and not some bullshit format that people can't use.)

Jun 26, 07 - 05:12 pm Comment from: larry turnauer

@Bloke

Did you miss the part where EVERYONE in the UK has to pay a license fee to fund the Beeb programs — even if they don't have a telly, or choose to never watch.

That's not true. From the TV Licensing site:

You need a TV Licence to use any television receiving equipment such as a TV set, set-top boxes, video or DVD recorders, computers or mobile phones to watch or record TV programmes as they are being shown on TV.

You can even ask to be exempted if you <a >only use your tv for DVD's, videos, or games</a>.

Jun 26, 07 - 05:13 pm Comment from: larry turnauer

Stupid quotation marks and lack of a preview function... grr.

Jun 26, 07 - 05:41 pm Comment from: Bloke

Okay...

EVERYONE in the UK that uses the Beeb programs has to pay a license fee to fund the Beeb — or has to wait for an Enforcement Officer to visit you to confirm that you do not need a licence, if you've choosen to never watch Beeb programs on the device that you own which is capable of watching?

Everyone that pays for the TV licence is ENTITLED to watch Beeb programs, regardless of the equipment used to watch the broadcast.

No EQUIPMENT BRAND or OPERATING SYSTEM preferences.

Jun 27, 07 - 08:16 am Comment from: gagravaar

The BBC tech IT side was bought up by Siemens recently.

Translation: part of the BBC that was funded by UK taxpayers money, has been sold off to a private company. Where has that money gone, and can I have my dividend please?

The Beeb have recently gone into an 'agreement' with Microsoft on future tech projects.

Translation: The Beeb, whose content in the main is created on Mac systems & Mac software, has an IT department that is full of 1990's pissed off IT managers who have an in-built hatred of all things Apple. Seeing day-after-day the new Mac hardware being used by the content makers, who they have no control over, they have decided that the part of the system they are in control of, will be as hostile to Apple as possible.

Need I say more, apart from, 'this stinks" ?

Jun 27, 07 - 10:33 am Comment from: vanfruniken

We have a similar situation in Flanders (Belgium) with the way telenet (the major cable ISP) offers internet TV/Movies. It is the MS DRM that they are using, of course, that is the culprit.
And to say that the CEO used to work for Apple Belgium!

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