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BBC News blows it: Reports on dangerous Windows trojan, but illustrates it with a Mac (updated)
Friday, October 31, 2008 - 12:49 PM EST

"The details of about 500,000 online bank accounts and credit and debit cards have been stolen by a virus described as 'one of the most advanced pieces of crimeware ever created,'" Maggie Shiels reports for BBC News.

"The Sinowal trojan has been tracked by RSA, which helps to secure networks in Fortune 500 companies," Shiels reports.

Shiels reports, "RSA said the trojan virus has infected computers all over the planet. 'The effect has been really global with over 2000 domains compromised,' said Sean Brady of RSA's security division."

"The RSA's Fraud Action Research Lab said it first detected the Windows Sinowal trojan in Feb 2006," Shiels reports. "Since then, Mr Brady said, more than 270,000 banking accounts and 240,000 credit and debit cards have been compromised from financial institutions in countries including the US, UK, Australia and Poland."

"Users can get infected without knowing if they visit a website that has been booby-trapped with the Sinowal malicious code," Shiels reports. "Sophos researchers reported in 2008 it was finding more than 6,000 newly infected web pages every day, or about one every 14 seconds."

Full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Blah, blah, blah, same old, same old. The whole thing reads like a Mac commercial, as usual. Unfortunately, this article also uses a Mac as an illustration with "DANGER" tape over its screen which might lead some BBC readers to be confused. Apple Macs are unaffected - unless, of course, they are Intel-based Macs (unlike the one pictured) that are slumming it with Windows, in which case, all bets are off. Your Mac's Windows partition can become as infected as any old POS Dell. Regardless, in the interest of fairness and accuracy, BBC News should immediately remove this illustration and replace it with an image of a PC that is prone to this trojan because it ships with Microsoft's insecure and dangerous Windows operating system.

BBC News Feedback (online form) is here. Reference the BBC's article URL: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7701227.stm

[UPDATE: 11:11pm EDT: The BBC has changed their photo illustration to show a beige box PC monitor and keyboard with WIndows on-screen.]

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Oct 31, 08 - 11:59 am Comment from: PPC

The Mac pictured can't even "slum it with Windows" since it's a PowerPC PowerBook.

Oct 31, 08 - 12:06 pm Comment from: Cullen Factor

Dumb asses! These are the same people that call NASA, Nasa.

The BBC is run these days by homosexuals, feminists, and idiots!

Oct 31, 08 - 12:08 pm Comment from: Wandering joe

@PPC heard of Virtual PC? never was very good, and only got worse once MS bought it, but still.

Oct 31, 08 - 12:09 pm Comment from: Macintosher

Yes, the BBC is rapidly turning into the land of the prats, with only Jeremy Clarkson and company keeping it sane.

I almost despair.

Oct 31, 08 - 12:10 pm Comment from: flappo

quite agree

the bbc sucks

Oct 31, 08 - 12:27 pm Comment from: @Cullen Factor

Though I probably agree with your politics, it's probably unlikely that homosexuality and feminism have much to do with this particular decision (or with this thread). The fact that the BBC editors are "idiots" OTOH, now you're talking!!!
Jake

Oct 31, 08 - 12:27 pm Comment from: G4Dualie

"Be wary of clicking on anything in a high traffic site like social networks."

You're kidding right? THIS is a high-traffic site! Is that statement suggesting that the owners of high-traffic sites are colluding with the perps by allowing malicious links to be embedded in their sites? Or that legitimate sites have no control over whether malicious links appear on their site?

If Macs were susceptible to these attacks I could easily attract Mac users in droves because I would hit them right where they live. Pride. Think about the kind of bait you could use to catch a Mac.

Hit whores would have a field day. Think of the most outrageous statement you could possibly make and then attach a link to it. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

Of course those who prey on Windows clients have to be way more clever than that because these people have seen it all, they know the drill, it's in their DNA, and yet millions continue to succumb to their own stupidity and fall into these traps and even go so far as to bypass the remedy! Stupid is as stupid does.

Now if I wanted to get Windows users to consider the Mac I would start a campaign of fear using the idea that Windows will never keep you safe. Even those who know they're safe struggle with their own doubt.

All your accounts are belong to us!

Oct 31, 08 - 12:28 pm Comment from: wyorancher

The Beeb is almost as bad as our network news and their talking heads. It's sad all over I guess. The most fun I have with the news is finding the typos in the character generator stuff - at least one per newscast on local and at least once a day on national. The asylum doors have been opened and they're out there!

Oct 31, 08 - 12:29 pm Comment from: fisherbln

First time I've written to one of these write-ins you suggest here on macdailynews, but this one is just pure stupidity on their parts.

Oct 31, 08 - 12:30 pm Comment from: HMCIV

Is that a floppy disk in front of the laptop?

Oct 31, 08 - 12:30 pm Comment from: Organist

They could at least say "Macs unaffected". Oh wait, that would be of public interest.

Oct 31, 08 - 12:32 pm Comment from: DLMeyer

Not to go defending the BBC ... though I do enjoy their mystery and comedy shows ... but Cullen Factor is WAY off-base with his analysis. Sure, a lot of idiots run around under the guise of "homosexuals" and "feminists", which doesn't mean a) they will get a job running anything or b) they are any different from the idiots who run around pretending to be "straight" or "sexist pigs". Only an idiot would notice one value and presume another, unrelated, value.
About the mysteries and comedies ... a hundred hours of excellent programming in a YEAR?!? Must be a load of crap on there!

Oct 31, 08 - 12:32 pm Comment from: shen

"The BBC is run these days by homosexuals, feminists, and idiots!"

that is odd, you would think that it would be hard to get republicans to work with homosexuals and feminists......

Oct 31, 08 - 12:37 pm Comment from: Cubert

The fact that this trojan was first discovered in Feb 2006 and is still infecting users is sad.

Freakin' Winblows using lemmings.

Oct 31, 08 - 12:44 pm Comment from: jtc

could they not muster up $1300 to get a new macbook???

Oct 31, 08 - 12:51 pm Comment from: xx

BBC are the absolute worst dumb asses on the planet. Their lying ass dog reporter got it wrong about Blair and Iraq and the result was 1) the fsuckup reporter was fired, 2) the head of the BBC news division was fired, 3) the head of the entire BBC was kicked out on his ass.

ALL LIARS, LAZY ASS HOMOS AND FEMINISTS LIBERAL INCOMPETENTS.

Oct 31, 08 - 12:52 pm Comment from: Mark

The BBC is biased towards liberalism. They admitted as much a few years ago. Obviously they are also incapable of objective reporting on tech issues.

Oct 31, 08 - 12:56 pm Comment from: Macjammer

The BBC has gone to the dogs!

Why, as a Brit we just had a huge debacle over two of our biggest rating celebrities decide they could get away with making malicious prank calls to an actor saying they'd both slept with his grand-daughter along with other leud remarks left on the actors answerphone.

Both those celebrities worked at the time for the BBC. One resigned and quite likely re-appear on another channel and once again cause trouble. The other has been suspended by the BBC management for 3 months and ordered to pay £1.2 million back.

One managerial level person, this being the top boss of Radio 2, who aired the show hosted by Brand also resigned over this issue.

Now this oversight, you see the editorial quality of the BBC has gone. The BBC used to stand for high quality editorial and well now you see...

I also sent a complaint via the links MDN provided.

Oct 31, 08 - 01:01 pm Comment from: Reality Check

Speaking as a frequent traveller to both the US and Europe, given the appalling quality of America TV and it's narrow-focused, xenophobic news coverage I'm astonished any of the American readers of this site have the nerve to criticize any non-American broadcaster. Amazing.

Oct 31, 08 - 01:18 pm Comment from: Ted

So everyone's got their panties in a twist because their graphic designer grabbed a stock photo of a Powerbook and photoshopped danger tape on it?

Yes, they probably should have used a stock photo of a generic Dell, but it's not like they scheduled a photo shoot for this. Most likely it's some poor designer locked in the bowels of the beeb just trying to crank out these graphics so they can go home.

Oct 31, 08 - 01:18 pm Comment from: CourtJester

The second time in a week that the BBC have 'favoured' Microsft. Legitimate grounds for complaint to be sure.

But most US radio and TV is crap compared to BBC, even though BBC standards have declined in recent years. Bad management in some areas.

Oct 31, 08 - 01:20 pm Comment from: RamaFan

What on earth does homosexuality or feminism have to do with how dumb or smart you are?

Maybe I do or don't agree with either point of view, but what on earth do either have to do with the grievous and spreading problem with all news media failing to check facts?

Oct 31, 08 - 01:25 pm Comment from: ron

shen, "that is odd, you would think that it would be hard to get republicans to work with homosexuals and feminists......"

Republican do work at least! Welfare and voting rights, only to those who pay, or have paid, taxes.

Oct 31, 08 - 01:27 pm Comment from: adlfnlsdnl

Ummm, Macs run Windows, too.

Oct 31, 08 - 01:33 pm Comment from: Zeke

So let's see, Ted. If ABC News did a story about gay male rape victims and decided to use a stock photo of you with a photoshopped black eye to illustrate the story on national TV you'd be understanding and OK with that, eh?

Oct 31, 08 - 01:35 pm Comment from: The Dude

@ Cullen Factor.
That's right... NASA is an acronym.... "Need Another Seven Astronauts".

I know... bad joke in poor taste.

Almost as bad as "How do you pickup Branch Davidian chicks? With a Dust Buster™"

The Dude abides.

Oct 31, 08 - 01:38 pm Comment from: HolyMackerel

"replace it with an image of a PC that is prone to this trojan…"

The picture should not be of a PC or even of a Dell. The issue is, and always has been, Windows. Either have a copy of the Windows flag logo draped in a danger sign or put a disclaimer in the article that this trojan virus "only affects computers running Windows". That way it covers Windows running on BootCamp and virtualisation as well.

If it is only XP or Vista or any unprotected Windows, then they should say this too. With 10% (and increasing) of the western world no longer using Windows, this need is increasing.

Oct 31, 08 - 01:39 pm Comment from: Predrag

adlfnlsdnl:

very, very few of them, and even that is in a separate partition, or on a disk image. And even if they initially do run Windows, after a few months, they no longer do (who would, with Mac OS right there?)

As for spelling of Nasa, most common editorial guidelines in proper English-speaking news media indicate that when an acronym is pronounced as a word, rather than spelt out (nasa vs. N-A-S-A), it is spelt in lowercase, which makes complete sense to anyone who studied proper English.

Obviously, since Americans have a habit of spelling their favourite government agency in all caps, they automatically consider it right, which it isn't necessarily.

Oct 31, 08 - 01:52 pm Comment from: Ryan

"Is that a floppy disk in front of the laptop?"

It's either that or some packages of condoms

Oct 31, 08 - 02:07 pm Comment from: nekogami13

Who cares?
Apple has created a line of very photogenic computers, they appear in tons of TV shows.

Are the Apple faithful(read:rabid attack geeks) going to launch a crusade against every TV show that does not accurately depict what they believe is the true awesomeness of the Mac?

Average person surfing the net or watching TV has no clue as to what the brand of computer is on the screen or in a photo.
Take a deep cleansing breath, count to ten and feel the negative energy leaving your body.

Oct 31, 08 - 02:16 pm Comment from: DLMeyer

Ron said: "Republican do work at least! Welfare and voting rights, only to those who pay, or have paid, taxes."
#1) Except for the members of the current Administration, who may be "working", but for the Republicans rather than the nation.
#2) I'd be a bit more liberal ... I'd also be willing to allow welfare and/or unemployment to the wives or husbands of those who pay, or have paid, taxes. Plus their voting-age dependents ... maybe. Voting, though, only to those who have "served" their country, state, or city - even if that means volunteering for the likes of the Red Cross, Head Start, Doctors Without Boarders and other responsible NGOs.

Oct 31, 08 - 02:34 pm Comment from: silly rabbit

@DLMeyer

Not really clear on the concept of Democracy, are you?

Also see my above comment... that means you.

Oct 31, 08 - 02:39 pm Comment from: G4Dualie

Is that a floppy disk in front of the laptop?

Don't be silly. Those are condoms!

Oct 31, 08 - 02:43 pm Comment from: G4Dualie

What? Am I supposed to read through the entire list of comments before posting?

Oct 31, 08 - 03:07 pm Comment from: DH

Hopefully the BBC also informed the viewers that Macs were not subject to this virus unless they were new Intel macs running in a Windows environment. Macs are very telegenic, which is nice.
What number of malware would this be ? 1,000,002 ???

Oct 31, 08 - 03:09 pm Comment from: Sixvodkas

@Cullen Factor;

Simply do as I, and refer to the British broadcasting corporation as the "Bbc".

Turnabout and all.

Oct 31, 08 - 03:13 pm Comment from: Sixvodkas

@DLMeyer;

By "current administration", I sincerely hope you're intelligent enough to know that the "law making" branch of our government (also know as the "Legislature"), has been firmly held by Liberal Democrats for over 2 years.

You'd have had done a great job of spin, if only the truth hadn't bit you in the ass.

Oct 31, 08 - 03:33 pm Comment from: sfs;nb;sn

Predrag wrote,

"very, very few (Macs run Windows)".

Very much fewer than the total number of personal computers running Window worldwide, right? Macs barely scratch the total number of Windows machines sold annually.

Apple needs to quintuple its percentage of worldwide Mac sales to gain significant market influence. Hopefully, Sno' Leopard and Intel's Nehalem-based processors will radically change minds and alliances in 2009, although I doubt that Apple will command more than 6% of total personal computer sales by end of 2009.

Oct 31, 08 - 03:51 pm Comment from: Non-USian

Leave it to YooEssians, with their usual display of intelligence, to believe that anywhere outside their country's borders the word liberal is satanic. Any pretense that the author is British blows apart like Sarah Palin's brain trying to follow a Sesame Street plot.

A YooEssian slamming the BBC is akin to Bush slamming people who can read.

Oct 31, 08 - 04:45 pm Comment from: Mac Daddy

This is really funny. As of now, on the linked article, BBC has indeed replaced the photo with a PC. I guess they do listen grin

Oct 31, 08 - 04:47 pm Comment from: chill baby

easy now, it just lazy designers comping a image for a report. no biggy. now go back to your trailor, take another prozac and get back to weird lil'life.

Oct 31, 08 - 04:51 pm Comment from: clunker

Unfortunately, this article also uses a Mac as an illustration with "DANGER" tape over its screen which might lead some BBC readers to be confused.

When MS finally buys out Dell, a MS-branded PC will be perfect for these situations.

Oct 31, 08 - 04:55 pm Comment from: davros

As long as the BBC keeps producing Dr. Who with hot "assistants", whatever else they do is irrelevant.

smile

Oct 31, 08 - 06:51 pm Comment from: hang on a second

this is a simple error and the average joe either wont realise or take in that its a mac, whats important is that the article makes it clear that its a waindows issue, which it does, i believe the bbc are the biggest newsgatherer and sometimes there are bound to be minor oversights when your producing articles for as many formats as they do

as for the mention of the brand/ross incident above, it hardly has any relevance to this minor error, but for what its worth the issue has been totally overbown and sensationalised by the new 24 hour media, yes they made an error of judgement, but the reason brand and ross are widely watched by the 15-35 demographic and paid so much is because they are edgy and pushing the envelope of taste, its what their target demographic wants as evidenced by the 90 percent poll of radio one listeners standing by the pair, its odd to sign them for being cutting edge and then lambast them when they are. The reality is 2 out of 2 million listeners complained before the daily mail picked up the story, the daily mail is very middle of the road, conservative, prudish and out of touch with the majority of younger people, then the sun and sky news really hammered away on the story, two media outlets owned by rupert murdoch who is well known to hate the bbc because of its publically funded competition, they have an interest in keeping the story going and thats what they have done and continue to do.

And dont get me started on the girl they were talking about, she is part of the reason her grandfather was so badly offended, a member of a dance troupe called satanic sluts, auditioned to be a sun page 3 topless model and slept with russell brand the first night they met and even now rather than protect her grandfathers feelings she has sold her sordid stories to the sun and heightened her grandfathers embarrassment further. At some point he was going to find out the truth about her and be hurt, it was just unfortunate that his finding out was so public.

in short yes brand/ross took the joke too far, an apology should of been enough, miss baille brought some of this on herself and the disproprtional response is driven by an anti bbc bias because things such as the bbc website news is helping to lower circulations of the tabloids. Also the divide between younger people and the older demographics has never been wider in terms of taste and whats acceptable, if the bbc is to remain relevent they need the ross and brands of this world or they will die in an uncreative middle of the road mediocrity, but perhaps thats what Murdoch wants.

Oct 31, 08 - 07:33 pm Comment from: PT

I don't think anybody other than an apple fanboi would recognize or care that the picture is of a mac. It's not obvious that it is a mac so this is just pedantic nitpicking...sure in principle its not fair to use a picture of an old mac, but realistically, who cares...

Oct 31, 08 - 08:40 pm Comment from: shen

"The BBC is biased towards liberalism."

so does reality. so what.

oh, and Ron? shut up. go continue to vote against your own sons marriage you dishonorable scum sucking vermin.

"This is really funny. As of now, on the linked article, BBC has indeed replaced the photo with a PC. I guess they do listen"

see, they are one up on american broadcasting right there....

Oct 31, 08 - 08:43 pm Comment from: shen

"Is that a floppy disk in front of the laptop?

Don't be silly. Those are condoms!"

if you can't tell the difference between a floppy and what ever it is you are keeping in your condom, i can forward my spam filter file to you. they have stuff to help that.

Oct 31, 08 - 09:33 pm Comment from: ron

shen, everyone will notice the vile things you libs spew. I used no such language. When you can't debate, scream filth and abuse. God bless you shen.

Oct 31, 08 - 09:35 pm Comment from: SKY LARK

@PT

Apathy ... Who gives a fsck.

Nov 01, 08 - 03:47 am Comment from: bobchr

Looks like and old G4 12" Aluminium MacBook, and are those floppys in front of it???? The Mac Book never had a floppy drive in it from inception. Must be the mythical horny unicorn.

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