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Mar 21, 08 - 09:19 am Comment from: Ampar

"Want the thinnest, best-designed ultra-portable computer money can buy?"

That's a strange expression. I suppose you could try to trade chickens, celebrity baby photos or a nice camel for one.

Mar 21, 08 - 09:37 am Comment from: DakRoland

"Much of the early criticism of the Air -- which was announced in January but didn’t hit stores until last month -- has centered on ‘missing’ features. Critics who lament that Apple missed the mark clearly do not understand that this laptop is aimed at a select group."

This guy gets it. Funny how so many other reporters/writers overlook that very key point.

To be fair, there are thinner, better designed ultra-portables money can't buy.

They exist in Apple's labs.

Mar 21, 08 - 09:51 am Comment from: Ampar

"They exist in Apple's labs."

Right next to a real time machine, a holodeck, Asteroid, the frozen head of Walt Disney and Flubber.

Mar 21, 08 - 09:53 am Comment from: Spark

"It sports the same aluminum casing as the MacBook Pro."

Don't tell Jonathan Ive that.

It's nice to see a reporter that " gets it " and understands the market this product is intended to sell to. It's not a Photoshop workhorse and it's not intended to replace your desktop computer. It's a great portable computer !

Mar 21, 08 - 10:06 am Comment from: shen

"That's a strange expression. I suppose you could try to trade chickens, celebrity baby photos or a nice camel for one."

actually, i traded the third child for a Mac Mini over a year ago. still trying to figure out what kind of package deal i can swing for an iPhone and an MBA.......

MBA may be the "thinnest, best-designed ultra-portable computer money can buy", but it is definitely not the best notebook for me. I see no reason to "plunk down $1,800" for a notebook that sacrifices too much functionality for a mere 2.5 pounds of weight saving.

MBA seems to be the notebook of choice for those that favor aestheticism over practicality or have a desktop as their primary machine. MBA cannot compete as a stand alone machine and its elegance does not compensate for its deficiencies in processor speed, slower and smaller hard drive, and inability of the user to swap batteries easily.

To MBA aficionados, these repeated threads for MBA seem nothing less than a desperate attempt to secure validation for your purchase. I won't provide approval for your purchase. Get over it, not everyone thinks like you.

Mar 21, 08 - 10:23 am Comment from: slappy

Finally, someone who actually thinks before they write junk. Someone with the ability to understand what the product was designed for.

The MBA is perfect for me. The approximately 50% less weight and thinness have made carrying it around everywhere a joy.

For work, I used to have a 12" Thinkpad X60, which had an extra battery and optical drive in the dock, which I never carried with me, and almost never used. And the only place I ever used wired Ethernet was at my desk at work. So it was very clear to me that an MBA would be better. The extra screen real estate and full size keyboard are a real benefit.

So to MBA aficionados, I will provide validation and approval for your purchase. No need to get over it, since you already know that everyone thinks like you as you see the millions of sufferers using XP or Vista...

Mar 21, 08 - 10:37 am Comment from: Ampar

"i traded the third child for a Mac Mini over a year ago"

That explains where Mac Geniuses come from. They're bred!

__________________

"I won't provide approval for your purchase."

The Mighty Afib has spoken. That's it then. We're done. Thanks.
(Actually, I think it would be hysterical if someone bought you one just to piss you off.)

Mar 21, 08 - 10:40 am Comment from: ElderNorm

@Afib,
"To MBA aficionados, these repeated threads for MBA seem nothing less than a desperate attempt to secure validation for your purchase. I won't provide approval for your purchase. Get over it, not everyone thinks like you."

Is it me or do you just not get it?? The comments above clearly pointed out that its a computer with a special purpose and audience, just like other Macs.

"MBA cannot compete as a stand alone machine "..... Yep, I guess you just do not get it. LOL

Let me help. The MBA is NOT:
A means of transportation,
Does not fly,
Will not teleport you anywhere....
Will not cloth, wash, or dress you...
etc.

Have a nice day. \

en

Here is the link again: http://www.maclife.com/article/apple_1_6g_hz_macbook_air

Just my $0.02

DH and Slappy:

According to the article the demographic for who the MBA is designed are those who do not need a machine with a built in Ethernet port, already have a primary computer, are not the least concerned about poor battery life and difficulties of swapping a battery themselves, and are more concerned with style than functionality.

Apple could design a Macbook Pro without an optical drive and with one USB, Ethernet, DVI, and audio port. This would possibly reduce the weight of a 15-inch Macbook Pro by a minimum of 0.8 to 1 pound. This would be my ideal notebook because it could easily function as my standalone computer, and would still be faster and equally portable in my estimation compared to MBA. In this case, I would not need to purchase another machine, but could an external display for home and office use.

ElderNorm:

Yes, it's obvious, you don't think like me. I don't buy a computer for what it doesn't do, I buy a machine for what it does do. If MBA serves your needs "Whoopee, for you!" Happy now?

It's amazing how defensive MBA fanbois can be when someone threads a negative opinion of the MBA. What is it that make you think that your choice in a notebook is more intelligent or more reasonable than anyone else? Even you admit that Apple designed MBA for a specific niche. it is obvious then that MBA would NOT be appealing to everyone. The fact that some persons do not fit this niche is a logical deduction. Is this simple understanding to difficult for you to grasp? Do you need to receive unanimous approval for your purchase of MBA to feel validation? If so, you and the other MBA fanbois are a truly pathetic bunch.

It seems that those who favor the MBA admit that MBA comes with some deficiencies, but somehow seem downright reactionary when these deficiencies are pointed out. An astute consumer weighs the advantages and disadvantages of each notebook and makes a decision which machine provides the optimal service.

Afib,

Everyone here already understands the tradeoffs Apple made. Some are okay with it and have bought or will buy one. Others won't. No need for you to point them out in a defensive and huffy tone (i.e. reference to fanbois). Get over it.

If you had just said, like many other posters in previous threads, that those tradeoffs made the MBA not the computer for you, nobody would've bothered to respond to or mock you. As it is, you cemented the view that you're an idiot who won't acknowledge that there are many who like and rationally choose the MBA just the way it is. Get over it.

Afib: One more thing, as I said in my previous post, the MBA is plenty practical for me, even as a primary computer. (I don't do Photoship.) So your need to denigrate the motive for my choice by implying I must've chose aestheticism over practicality is just offensive.

Afib: And by the way, I think of myself as a very astute customer who has chosen what is optimal, and don't need you to point out that I somehow stupidly missed the MBA's "deficiencies."

Every laptop has deficiencies. Even the new Lenovo X300 has severe deficiencies but it may be perfect for a whole bunch of users.

Afib

To MBA aficionados, these repeated threads for MBA seem nothing less than a desperate attempt to secure validation for your purchase. I won't provide approval for your purchase. Get over it, not everyone thinks like you.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Get over the fact that not everyone thinks like *you*. The MBA doesn't have the features you need?

DON"T BUY IT! BUY ONE OF THE OTHER MAC LAPTOPS!

How hard is this to comprehend? The Air suits many thousands, probably hundreds of thousands of people for the exact reason the article mentions. No one needs to "validate" a purchase that fits their needs and requirements. It's that simple.

Mar 21, 08 - 11:21 am Comment from: Spark

@Afib
Are you simply a complete and utter ass, or are you just dense? Guess what, the MBA is NOT the right machine for almost everyone on the planet. That doesn't mean each and everyone of you need to post here telling us something we already know. Your disdain for those that actually have a use for the MBA only underscores my original question to you.

mark:

"you cemented the view that you're an idiot who won't acknowledge that there are many who like and rationally choose the MBA just the way it is. Get over it."

Not so, mark. As I have repeated many times, to each his own. It's simply that MBA is not the machine for me. Read my threads again, if you have any questions, I'll be glad to explain them to you.

Anyhow, thanks for being so generous with your opinions, mark. Your uninhibited resentment towards those who won't spend the cash for MBA underscores your personal bias and prejudices towards those that do "Think Different" from you.

How often do you consider those who share opposite opinions to you "idiots"? What makes your thinking more sensible than someone else? How does insulting another person strengthen your argument that you are an objective and thoughtful person?
Explain yourself, mark.

Personally, mark, I think that your acrimony and venom is positive proof that you have a desperate need for approval for purchasing MBA. You seem to lack the calm and collected assurance of a person who is confident in his thinking processes. That would make you a fanboi by any definition.

Mar 21, 08 - 11:30 am Comment from: Crabs

@ Afib

"Get over it, not everyone thinks like you."

Practice what you preach, pal.

Quit condemning those that buy Airs, just because you don't fit into its demographic, and possibly don't understand it.

Me, I fit into the demographic (except I can't afford one). I'm a college-student, with PM G4 as my primary computer. The only time I use my disc drive is to rip CDs or DVDs to my computer, or to install software. The Air has a way to install software, and I wouldn't rip my whole music library to the Air if I had one, so there's no reason for me to have a disc drive.

The only reason I use ethernet, is because I can't find a wireless card that will work with this computer (predates AirPort. If anyone knows of one, that isn't 100 bux, let me know, I'll love you forever). If my computer had a wireless card, and no ethernet jack, I would NEVER need ethernet.

The one USB port? Let's see, my USB attachments...my mouse, hmm, wouldn't use that. My keyboard, hey wouldn't use that. My printer, can hook up to that over Bonjour through my primary computer. My iPod, which I wouldn't sync to my Air because my PM has all my music on it, my Air wouldn't, and if I'm on the road, I'll plug my iPod into the wall.

Its processor? Well, right now, I'm running on a 400 MHz processor, with 768 K of RAM. Which is too slow for me, I've been needing to upgrade it forever, but can't afford to. But 1.6 or 1.8 GHz on a dual core, with 2 GB of RAM? That'd be just fine for me. Perfect.

So while you may see it as "form over function," to some people, apparently a lot of people seeing as the Airs are flying off the shelves (still #1 seller on the Apple Online Store), it's the perfect functionality encased in a gorgeous form. There is no trade off for some people. Sure, for you, there are a ton of trade-offs. But...

"Get over it, not everyone thinks like you."

Mar 21, 08 - 11:31 am Comment from: Ampar

Afib, bullshit.

"As I have repeated many times, to each his own."

Combine that with this gem,

"I won't provide approval for your purchase."

Flip much?

Mar 21, 08 - 11:37 am Comment from: Crabs

Oh, and Afib. Go back and read your first post. It was EXTREMELY rude to people who buy the Airs. And if you didn't mean it that way, then maybe you ought to examine the way you say certain things, because it honestly sounds like you are making fun of, and being extremely condescending to anyone that buys an Air.

You were almost fine, until this: "To MBA aficionados, these repeated threads for MBA seem nothing less than a desperate attempt to secure validation for your purchase. I won't provide approval for your purchase. Get over it, not everyone thinks like you."

Calling people desperate, accusing them of seeking to secure validation, and saying get over it, are just not the ways to politely say the Air is not for me. Sorry, but it isn't.

To all fanbois:

You seem perturbed that someone doesn't wholeheartedly agree with you. Hmmm, why is that?

I suppose that some of your haven't lost all reason, because it is true that I haven't purchased a MBA. That should have been obvious.

I also won't buy MBA and thanks for your advice not to purchase MBA. I really appreciate your recommendations not to buy MBA; however, I am certain that MBA is NOT the notebook for me and I made this decision months ago. I reckon that others debating whether to buy or not to buy MBA may find your suggestion that MBA is NOT the optimal notebook for some persons very helpful.

So, MBA purchasers, if you are the niche that Apple designed MBA, why feel so threatened or insecure when a person not in your exclusive demographic doesn't fall in lock step with your thinking? Maybe those who are not confident in their purchase of MBA are probably not self-assured in their thinking processes and likely feel a strong sense of buyer's remorse.

I repeat, "Whoopee!" for all MBA purchasers.

To all those who haven't purchased MBA, "Whoopee, to you, too!"

@Afib....you haven't touched or picked one up yet, have you?? Pictures don't do this ultra-mobile machine justice. I own a Macbook and the Air makes my Macbook feel like I am picking up a tank.
If you are a student and need ultra-mobility/portability, then the Air is the only true option.

Afib: You can only see in others what you originally provoked by your idiotic comments. That makes you an ass, as so many on this thread are confirming.

Now to specifics: If your original post was limited to just the first paragraph, no problem. Many have said exactly that with no one jumping on them. But your second and third paragraph throw in criticism for those who chose to buy a MBA. Why do you that? What's your motivation? Why not just recognize that others can choose for their own reasons, just like you think you say (para 1), but prove that you really are not doing (paras 2 and 3).

I'm fine with the hundreds of millions who choose something else. Go back and look at my first post on this thread. The first two paragraphs accused no one of anything. As I wrote, I used a ThinkPad and XP for three years even though I prefer a Mac. I never once criticized anyone for choosing either way or looked down on anyone for any reason, even if I thought they were making a mistake.

But you wrote "aestheticism over practicality". You wrote "get over it". How could I not respond to your provocation?

There's no venom here except in response to false accusations.

Afib: why did you start all of this by picking on DH and slappy? They said nothing about you or your choices; they didn't even know of your existence.

Seriously, what was that all about?

Mar 21, 08 - 12:12 pm Comment from: Ampar

"You seem perturbed that someone doesn't wholeheartedly agree with you. Hmmm, why is that?"

It has absolutely nothing to do with your opinion on why the Air is not for you. It was your condescending tone. Get it?

Mar 21, 08 - 12:21 pm Comment from: Crabs

Afib, again.

It's not that you don't like it. WE DON'T CARE THAT YOU DON'T LIKE IT. What we care about is your attacks on people who do. Calling them DESPERATE, saying they need VALIDATION, and telling them to GET OVER IT.

Hello? Have you not read mark's posts, Ampar's posts, or my posts? We're all telling you that. And then you attack us, calling us FANBOIS, telling us that we're attacking anyone who doesn't share our opinion.

HELLO! You're the one attacking people for not having the same opinion as you! We're merely defending ourselves against your attacks. Holy crap, are you so retarded that you honestly can't get that?

Crabs:

Did you read the article? The author mentioned several deficiencies that buyers may have with MBA. Yet many of the threads here have completely ignored these criticisms of MBA and rattle on how great MBA is. Frankly, anyone who cannot address these criticisms identified by the author and will not admit that some persons may not consider MBA the optimal notebook are not entirely rational or objective thinkers.

Desperate persons tend to ignore criticism or even acknowledge that someone "Thinks Different" from them. Desperate persons seek external validation for their actions because they lack confidence in their own ability to rationalize their actions. It isn't rude to point out deficiencies in someone's thinking any more than it is ill-advised to point out some inherent weaknesses in MBA.

You may have some buyer's remorse, I don't know, but this isn't my problem. Maybe you're sensitive about impulsively buying MBA. All these would factors would certainly identify an individual with a careless or desperate personality. I doubt that 100% of MBA purchasers are 100% satisfied. If you are completely satisfied, good for you, and you may ignore my comments regarding "desperate" MBA owners. For those, who regretted buying MBA and don't like to be reminded of the fact, you are desperate. Live and learn.

Many have admitted the obvious fact, MBA is a niche product. Therefore, why not accept the fact that MBA is not designed for the majority of users? And, if MBA is not the notebook for the majority of users, agree that there are reasons that this is true?

It is obvious that purchasers of Mac Pro are also in a group of niche users, yet I haven't read a single thread from these persons adamantly seeking justification for dropping $3,000 for their machine or castigating iMac owners. These people, unlike many here, seem self assured, confident, tolerant, and rational.

The two main issues with the Air are lack of firewire and insufficient storage space. I understand that a single platter larger hard drive is on the way, and while 160 gigs isn't much by to-day's standards, 80 is just plain inadequate. It means transferring data to an external device and for that nothing beats Firewire, also MIA.

Future revisions will fix the storage problem, but Firewire would make it far more useful. How much re-engineering would that take?

Let's examine these threads carefully.

I think that the common refrain among the fanbois here is to call anyone who shares a different opinion an "ass" or "retarded". This is bona fide evidence of fanboism. Neither have many here denounced this language as being divisive and offensive, so I have to deduce that many of you agree with these puerile attitudes and this would characterize you as fanbois, too. Frankly, anyone who resorts to such childish idioms is desperate, in my opinion, because they cannot express their thoughts more carefully and assiduously.

Also, it seems that anyone who threads a contrary opinion is castigated as attacking. This hardly characterizes rational thinking. People who cannot tolerate that someone else thinks that MBA is still a deficient stand alone computer demonstrate their own bias and prejudice.

Mar 21, 08 - 12:41 pm Comment from: Crabs

Ho. Ly. Crap.

Afib.

Yes, I read the bloody article. I know there are deficiencies to certain people.

I wasn't even commenting on the article. I was responding to your attacks on Air fans.

Did you, however, even read my comments? Obviously not. I said I like the Air, but I can't afford it. So I'm obviously not suffering from buyer's remorse on an impulse buy, because I didn't buy it. I probably will, but it's been a long thought out decision, about...2 months worth, thus far.

And you said, if we had questions about your post, to ask you. How's about this one: Why did you bother posting anything more than the fact that you don't think the Air is right for you? Why did you go on to attack those who own it? Why did you go on to attack those who support it, saying they're obsessed with form over function?

And then you go around and say others are attacking you because you think different than you?! HAHAHAHA! Funniest thing I've ever heard of. Or at least, it would be, if it weren't so sad, and annoying that you don't seem to understand that YOU ATTACKED FIRST. Me, Ampar, and mark? We're just defending ourselves, and Air owners agains your belittling of the people who buy the Air. Not your belittling of the Air. That's your own bloody opinion, and you're entitled to it. But when you start belittling people because they think differently than you do, and then accuse them of attacking you when they defend themselves, that's when you get people mad.

I don't care if you don't have a use for the Air. I don't care if it's not the right computer for you. What I care about is your comments calling people desperate, claiming they're seeking validation, calling people fanbois, and then telling people to get over the fact that not everyone thinks like they do, when you're the one who's attacking others' beliefs.

And again, I am not an Air owner. I like it, but I can't afford it. So I'm obviously not seeking any sort of validation, especially not from you. What I'm seeking, is for you to be respectful to people who think differently than you do, and to not accuse peope of attacking when they're merely defending themselves.

Ampar:

"It has absolutely nothing to do with your opinion on why the Air is not for you. It was your condescending tone. Get it?"

Actually, you felt that you were being patronized. That, Apmar, is your own interpretation. I am not responsible for how you misinterpret my threads or how you think. However, your misunderstanding may reveal something about your own personal views of others that disagree with you.

Why won't fanbois admit and acknowledge that some persons have legitimate reasons not to purchase MBA? These are the person who "don't get it".

Mar 21, 08 - 01:01 pm Comment from: Ampar

"Frankly, anyone who resorts to such childish idioms is desperate, in my opinion, because they cannot express their thoughts more carefully and assiduously."

Re-read Crabs last post. Then, go look up the word hypocrite. We'll wait.

There is no misunderstanding. For what it's worth, I have no need for a MacBook Air. I prefer my MacBook Pro. I have my own reasons. I don't feel patronized either.

You have utterly and completely missed the point. Kudos.

Crabs:

"Why did you go on to attack those who support it, saying they're obsessed with form over function?"

May I quote from the article, "The group the Air is designed for (persons) who want style and portability. It is a premium ultraportable that best serves those who will use it as a second computer.."

Is it not obvious that the author has emphasized that MBA is more "style" versus function? That MBA is a second computer, and not a stand alone machine? Good grief, Crabs, I'm in total agreement with the author that you so vehemently agree with.

Also, how is my agreeing with the author that MBA is a niche product, not designed for the majority of users "attacking" anyone? Frankly, I have never witnessed such "desperate" attempts from MBA users to justify their purchase. What difference does it make what non-MBA purchasers or MBA critics have to think? Are you not completely happy with MBA as is? Are you not content with its design? Do you not feel self assured of MBA's value and usefulness? If so, what does it matter what I think?

Hmmm, several people threading (i.e. Crabs, Ampar) haven't purchased MBA and yet defend so vigorously those that have purchased MBA. You vigourous fanbois would have more credibility justifying purchasing MBA if you actually did so. Put your money where your mouth is, fellas.

The fact that you fanbois haven't "plunked down" your hard earned cash only emphasizes the desperation that some have for securing MBA's success. Consider this, if you aren't so enthralled with MBA to buy it, why should anyone else?

Pathetic.

Mar 21, 08 - 01:27 pm Comment from: Ampar

Wow.
Afib still missed the point entirely. Is this funny or sad? I can't decide.

Pathetic, indeed.

Mar 21, 08 - 01:34 pm Comment from: Anonymous©

What happened? Did they fire the Apple-hater, Hiawatha Bray?

Ampar and Crabs:

So, you haven't your own MBA, eh, Ampar? You, too, Crabs? That is the point, fanbois, and you have made it obvious to everyone reading this blog.

Ampar, Crabs, you and others have no credibility as spokespersons for MBA if you haven't the willingness to spend YOUR OWN cash for MBA.

Ampar, Crabs, being pathetic and desperate for MBA's success is encouraging others to spend THEIR OWN cash for a product that you haven't the readiness to purchase yourself. This is the preeminent definition of fanboism.

Is MBA too expensive for you? Maybe MBA is too expensive for someone else.

Is MBA not powerful enough for you? Maybe MBA is not powerful enough for someone else.

Is MBA deficient as your stand alone computer? Maybe MBA is deficient for someone else?

Thanks, Crabs. Thanks, Ampar. You have supported my argument that MBA is NOT the ideal notebook succinctly and flawlessly.

I have made my decision, Ampar, you are a fanboi. Sad for you, funny for me.

Wow! We're just talking completely past Afib. As they say, saying any more would be a waste of breath.

I will breathe deeply and enjoy my Air today for the rational and practical reasons for which I've chosen it, even if Afib insists that I could not have chosen it rationally, though he also insists that he's not insisting otherwise, but whatever. Others will enjoy whatever computer they've chosen for whatever reasons they chose it. Or not. Whatever, today is not a good day for logic.

On to other news, Morespaceplse is right about Firewire, but for me, it's not to connect external drives since I have more external USB drives than Firewire drives, but because target mode still only works that way. But I can live with the slightly higher risk of not having target mode as a safety net.

As for the 80GB hard drive size, I'm only at 40+ GB right now. But I do have to think about managing it the way I had to manage my 4GB iPod mini - what media (then music, now movies) to keep on and what to take off. I was never able to determine if Apple chose 80GB over 160GB due to speed & reliability of drives at that 1.8" size. My Thinkpad only had 93GB of usable space, and I got to 82GB on that after 3 years, but again by only keeping a select few movies on it at any one time.

Ooh, I know what I just wrote but I can't resist.

Afib, what is the "ideal notebook"?

You wrote that the MBA is NOT THE ideal notebook but I don't think the original article or anyone in this thread has said that the MBA is THE ideal notebook.

Though many, including me, have concluded that it's the "thinnest, best-designed ultra-portable", which by use of the qualifying word "ultra-portable" means is not the ideal non-ultra-portable notebook.

I can't wait for Afib now to say I have no self-control because I couldn't resist prolonging interacting with him.

Mar 21, 08 - 02:26 pm Comment from: Ampar

To Afib:

(last try)

Read the insulting TONE:
"pathetic and desperate"
"I have made my decision, Ampar, you are a fanboi. Sad for you, funny for me."

This had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FRIKKIN' MACBOOK AIR. This thread could have been about ostrich farming or ham radio.


It's YOUR CONTINUOUS INSULTING AND DEROGATORY TONE.

Tone. n. Manner of expression in speech or writing: took an angry tone with the reporters.

Freakin' unbelievable.

mark:

You have missed the point about "rationality" entirely, mark. Let me explain, again.

I never suggested that persons who purchased MBA were irrational. If you would read my threads you would understand that I stated that those who disparage persons not in the "niche market" - those who consider the MBA over-priced and under-powered - as being irrational in the denial that MBA does have some deficiencies, especially as a stand alone computer. In fact, these deficiencies were discussed by the author. You also admit MBA has some deficiencies - no Firewire port, skimpy hard drive - that make MBA less than ideal as a stand alone computer.

Isn't it obvious to you that niche products would NOT appeal to the majority of users? Doesn't that make the majority of Mac users without a MBA the astute consumers? So, you belong to the niche market. Do you need me to congratulate you, to validate your purchase? You made your choice, what more do you want from me than acknowledge the fact?

Again, those who won't spend their cash for MBA and encourage other to buy MBA are the desperate ones. Have you asked the question why it is that these people are so adamant about MBA's success yet haven't made the purchase themselves? What motivations do these people have that would drive them to compel others to purchase a machine that they haven't purchased themselves? Is Apple's ultimate success determined by how many niche products MBAs it sells? I hope not.

Mar 21, 08 - 02:47 pm Comment from: January 24, 1984

Is it ever constructive, or even effective to attack another's reasoning?

Shit you learn by your early thirties...if you have an average mind. Quicker if you're keener.

Ampar:

My tone?

To quote you, Ampar, " Wow. Afib still missed the point entirely. Is this funny or sad? I can't decide. Pathetic, indeed."

How about the use of words such as "ass" and "retarded" that you have selectively chosen not to criticize? Why do you reserve your condemnation for me and not Spark, mark or Crabs. It's obvious, you are just like them.

Freaking unbelievable, indeed. Your lack of credibility and arrogance is only exceeded by your hypocrisy.

Mar 21, 08 - 03:14 pm Comment from: Ampar

"How about the use of words such as "ass" and "retarded" that you have selectively chosen not to criticize?"

Absolutely agree.

But take note who fired the first shot:
"To MBA aficionados, these repeated threads for MBA seem nothing less than a desperate attempt to secure validation for your purchase. I won't provide approval for your purchase. Get over it, not everyone thinks like you."

Sound familiar?

mark:

You wrote,

"Ooh, I know what I just wrote but I can't resist. Afib, what is the "ideal notebook"?

I did explain my ideal notebook at 11:44 am EST. I suppose that you would disagree, but then again, I don't care if you disagree with me.

I don't purchase a notebook based on your preferences, I purchase a notebook based on the functionality of the machine as I determine it.

You purchased a MBA knowing the compromises and restrictions inherent in the design. I see MBA's lacking those previously discussed features as too limiting and are not compensated by its thinness.

Ampar:

Really?

Firstly, calling a person an "ass" or "retard" is hardly comparable to stating a person's opinion sounded "desperate", unless you are overly sensitive or nit picking.

Secondly, you're a day late and a dollar short in your denunciation of Spark, Crabs, and mark. Another one of your credibility issues, I think, Ampar.

Thirdly, using the word "desperate" less offensive than referring to me as the "Mighty Afib", wouldn't you agree?

Mar 21, 08 - 04:29 pm Comment from: Ampar

You win, Afib. I bow to your superior wit and intellect.
You are one of those rare and treasured individuals that are never, ever, ever wrong. Never. Not even once. That is so cool. I'll bet it's a hit at parties.

Uncle.