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I'm mad as hell and doggone it I'm gonna shoot myself right here in the foot. That'll learn 'em all but good!

"So I'm not going to buy an iPhone. And until Apple commits to changing this ridiculous policy, I don't think you should either."

First, I don't fu*king care if your not buying an iPhone you whinny bitch.
Second, don't tell me what I should or shouldn't do, you microtard.

I hate these idiots and they think there opinion matters just because they say they "like Apple and it's products", and it hurts their little feelings that they can't install some shitty little poorly written 3rd party app, which they won't even use anyway.

Like this douche not buying an iPhone will hurt Apple. Like he thinks he's that important. Moron.

Please don't buy an iPhone. EVER.

All I know is that my iphone is the best gadget i've ever owned. I'm perfectly happy with it just the way it is. I cant help but wonder just which so-called third party apps this guy is dying to have...

What a F-ing baby - what the hell 3rd party app would you ever need? If you need all that shit get a freaking laptop

@ Arik Hesseldahl

You're kind of a nincompoop, aren't you?
You don't think I should either? Well thanks for looking out for me, honey. You're the best! Should I put off buying a new car until they fly? Or put off buying a new camera until Canon let's me install a "Flying Toaster" screen saver? I'm so glad you're around to help me!!!

Oh, and One More Thing, MDN...

"bloviating"? That's a new one!

-c

All of you guys who are cussing your brains out about how you would NEVER need any 3rd Party apps on YOUR iPhone, obviously haven't even taken the time to see what many of them offered.

Well, the dude may be nuts, but he does have a point. There is so much that can be done with 3rd party apps on the iPhone. I'm talking real apps, not Web 2.0 apps (which aren't bad but have their limits). I'll bet Apple will allow 3rd-party apps on the NEXT generation iPhone, which will suck ass for the rest of us. Just watch.

I get so tired of people bitchin' about not having 3rd party apps, locked to one network, blah, blah, blah. For crying out loud technology pundits and the like, give Steve J and the folk at Cupertino at least a quarter or two to evaluate what the iPhone currently is and what is could be. It's a new platform and new business for Apple and they need a baseline. The are treading at their own pace. And I'm sure they've already heard all the <airquoute> problems </airquote>. Good Lord.

Well I'm typing this on my iPod touch which is basically an iPhone sans phone and I've got to say this is the coolest gadget I have EVER owned, being able to surf the web on a device this small is the stuff you see in sci-fi films set in 100 years time.

I'm glad I bought one, and will definitly be getting an iPhone when they come over to the UK.

So thanks for the advice, but I think i've made my mind up.

The iPhone has been and remains to be capable of EVERYTHING Apple says it is capable of. I see no wrong doing. I hope Arik Hesseldahl avoids writing about Apple in the future. I'd rather no see his gobble-D-gook on this web site.

"You can have our iPhones when you pry them from our cold dead hands."

This says it all for me too.

thses are the same guys who do windoze only apps

f off

apple is kicking eveyones ass and I love it

f microsuck
f adobe


long live apple

The iPhone is doing everything that was promised by Apple and doing it wery well at that. Apple will surely ad features steadily over time. My iPhone experience is not based on some idiot's wet dream. It is based on what was promised.

I think he is on to something. I just hope Apple does not repeat the same mistakes it did when introducing the Apple computer/Mac OS is the early 80's. The day someone comes out with something that the iPhone can't do, or does it better --- bye-bye iPhone. I'm concerned that Apple still has not released a solution for Exchange Server, preventing MILLIONS from even considering getting the phone. What about flash? As an iPhone owner, the more features/apps I can get on my phone the better. Think different people...... dont be Apple sheep.

i won't own an iPhone until it can work on something other than that asstastic ATT 2.5G data network...

Hey, I like my iPhone. Some problems, but so what.

And MDN, a little O'Reilly AND Heston in the same take? Cool.

Hi, Chrissy.

Go Cowboys.

Anyone know where to get an all in one car charger/mount for the iPhone? The kind you plug in and form the holder to the angle you want. I don't need it to do anything else.
Well, maybe converse with me on long trips.
Wait, that's what the phone part is for....

I like the idea of 3rd party apps. I think Apple will make this happen before MacWorld 2008. But I could care less if this guy buys an iPhone or not. I enjoy mine.

I want id's Orcs & Elves on my iPhone

http://www.idsoftware.com/games/mobile/orcselves/

he won't buy an iPhone?! geez.... my heart's breaking.

Steve better hurry the fsck up and open of the iPhone to 3rd party apps, otherwise the popularity of this thing will sink, and fast.

I left a comment on the story- never showed up. I guess he not only whines like a bitch, but he defends his drivel like one too.

Soooooooo, you don't want to buy an iPhone for what reason ???

So don't, and who gives a shit anyway !

Arik sounds like my three year old throwing a fit because he doesn't get everything he wants and doesn't know why. How about we change the first part of what you said to:

"I don't read any BusinessWeek stuff, and I don't think I ever will."

Get real Arik, you have a choice and you can stick with the also rans. Doesn't matter, you're obviously a geek that doesn't understand what it feels like to date the hot chick.

Bottom line, iPhones are cool, iPods are cool and that stuff matters to teens and many adults. I really want you to go hang out at my son's high school for a few days and see if you can handle all the ribbing you'll get with all the other choices. You definately won't be going out with the hot chicks.

"First, I don't fu*king care if your not buying an iPhone you whinny bitch."

Whinny bitch - Is that a mare? They whinny.

Whiny-- not drinking wine, but pissing and moaning all the time.

MW - close. but not on the nose.

I'm actually of the same mind.

There is one thing more that I need the iPhone to do. It doesn't do it. I don't think Apple will ever do it--it's kind of a specialized thing.

As a developer, I'm willing to write it myself. But I have other things to do, so I'll wait for Apple to release an iPhone SDK. Of course, the iPhone currently wouldn't support it anyway (As I understand it, the Bluetooth stack only supports enough to handle a wireless headphone).

In the meantime, I'll somehow survive with my iPod nano and cellphone. I'm actually not unconvinced that isn't a smarter choice anyway (the old "having all your eggs in one basket" issue).

My iPhone has already made my life a heckuva lot easier, just by being able to use the REAL Internet (not the dumbed-down version that passes for same on most phones) to check bus schedules, keep up to date on the news of the day, and communicate with my friends via email on the road.

And for the most part, the EDGE network hasn't been as bad as I thought it would.

I could care less about most 3rd party apps -- if they build in the ability to sync notes and to-do lists between the Mac and the iPhone (perhaps something in the new version of iCal?), that would take care of my needs just fine, and likely the vast majority of users as well. How many folks really need Exchange connectivity? How many need to take along Microsoft Office documents on their phone?

I think this should get the "Think Before You Click" label. These are people who are getting on the bandwagon of Landau, Griffiths, Breen, all three of which are chorusing "Apple is evil because there are no third party apps." Give me a break. These three keep represeting the small number of people who hack their iPhones as the majority.

With less of a fuss, it's the lack of apps has kept me from switching my family plan, going thru that broohaha, etc... I'll eventually get one when we switch from Verizon, but for a device as powerful as the iPhone is, it's awefully limited, don't you think? No flash, no 3rd party apps? If it's truely OSX, then why not make a portable version of iWork? I'd love to leave my laptop at home on my next work trip, just bring a cable for presentations, my Keynote presentations and some Pages docs on my iPhone. Maybe some backups on a firewire drive? Awesome. Oh, but that's not possible yet... because it's not tech feasible? Don't think so. Apple better be careful, they'll pull an "RCA" in the 70's. (Invinted the LCD, then sat on it until it was too late...)

Yeah, well I won't buy Business Week until it contains articles from National Inquirer.

Until the iPhone supports Pocket Quicken & FileMaker Mobile, I will be sticking with my Treo 650. Sorry, MacDailyNews, but my Treo 650 does more than the iPhone currently does -- with the exception of WIFI Internet access. I even have a Slingbox client on my Treo! (Not that that's too important to me.) But the key software programs I need on an iPhone are Pocket Quicken & FileMaker Mobile -- I use those programs dozens upon dozens of time every single day on my Treo. Until that happens, I'm quite happy with my Treo 650.

iPhone is a new device. Europe is waiting!!

I agree with ChrissyOne on this. I'm not buying a new car until they can fly.

I am not buying an iPhone until I can write apps for it that do not require safari.

Just my $0.02

Just to get hits.

This is getting tiresome to see everyone jumping on the bandwagon for hits.

Meh, your loss...

So dont buy one Veruca.

I have nothing against the idea of 3rd party apps. But at the moment there isn't a single one that I need. So until this, let's call it a 'killer' app, materializes and is something I have to have, trading promising yet vague potential for a secure platform makes perfect sense to me.

-c

"I don't own an iPhone, and I don't think I ever will."
My kinda people!
(only two post, you happy with this limited education?)

http://fakesteveballmer.blogsopt.com

1903 horse & buggy rider:

"I won't buy a horseless carriage until they install cruise control and key-less entry".

Good things come to those who wait... long enough.

yeah, don't get an iphone. As a matter of fact,
cut your nose off to spite your face too.
There, take that!

OK folks, In case you have not been reading the news at MDN carefully, time to wise up. AAPL is going down hard. Just check out the headlines.... Microsoft with new zunes on the way, LG Voyager to be the iPhone killer, Now this guy promises not to buy an iPhone. Apple is doomed for sure.

Don't say that! My Nest Egg is rolling around their factory!

I want an iPhone.

But I CAN'T use an iPhone until there is a way for it to replace my Treo 650. That means HTML Active Sync Exchange Mail for work (without having to involve my IT department), and Acrobat Reader/iSolo for books (I read a LOT when I travel). Oh...and silly me but I LIKE AvantGo on the Treo (whole "reading" thing again...without needing to be online at the time)

It's a freaking computer. Why NOT allow 3rd party apps? Seems to me that's like saying we won't allow 3rd party apps on a MacBook Pro? Yeah right! (Which is THE BEST computer I've EVER owned BTW...)

"How many folks really need Exchange connectivity?"

The 95% of anyone working in an office. Its the standard.

Hesseldahl is highly respected and been a great advocate for Apple so far.

He's misguided on this one though. His lack of objectivity and elitist nerdiness seem to have blinded him to a couple of facts: 1. Apple Computer is now Apple, Inc; 2. the iPhone is exactly what Apple announced it would be--a phone, and not a computer.

The bloggosphere is too busy putting words into iPhone owners' mouths who didn't ask for it. I haven't met a single iPhone owner yet who's complaining about Apple's policy toward the iPhone. Personally, I appreciate the iPhone's added security and reliability as consequence of their policy.

Unfortunately this minority of nerds and elite bloggers are making a disproportionate amount of noise for their numbers. I call it swift-boating.

Maybe this is the beginning of the end for the old-school Apple supporters who don't agree with Apple's latest direction. I have a feeling though, that they'll be forgiving Apple, when Apple releases it's next wave of technology.

Looks like Arik is not a regular reader of MacDailyNews or Blackfriars' Marketing... or else his deadline appeared before this article:

Waiting for an iPhone SDK, improved Apple TV? Think Mac OS X Leopard

I've loong been a tremendous Apple fan but you guys are such homeboy apologists that you often leave all reason behind.
I'll likely get an iPhone before they open it up to reach it's potential but that won't stop me from calling Apple's stance on this what it is, incomprehensible. As presented it takes, as you've described, a wonderful platform and stunts it's potential seemingly in the name of protecting commercial interests. Apple is doing just fine on the ledgers and they got that way by serving their users so I'm concerned when they seem to get the cart before the horse and are willing to screw their users in the name of more money. The idea, as recently reported, that they may open the architecture in a very controlled way (not a bad idea) but take 2/3reds of the software price for themselves seems like they'd be really screwing their developers too. I hope that rumor isn't true.
I'm hopeful they are working to do the right thing to serve their customers but as they've presented themselves so far, it doesn't make them look good in this case & we shouldn't pretend it does.

Sorry MDN, you're comment sounds like a child whining "my dad is better than your dad."

The fact of the matter is some of us need the apps we use on those other smart phones. Here are some things my Treo does that I use all the time; but that I currently can not do on the iPhone:

Every single day I refer to Splash ID for some password, email configuration, network configs, PIN number, etc. I have it on my PowerBook and my Treo and it is the one app I can't do without.

Everyday I take notes on the Treo's memo pad. Yes, iPhone has notes but I can't sync them back to my PowerBook like I can with my Treo. I need to sync them so I can convert them into memos and/or agendas. [Yes I've heard Leopard will support note syncing but I'm not going to get Leopard just for that.]

I use MultiMedia Messaging to send pictures to friends and colleagues, many of them are work related. I need that ability.

I also use Splash Shopper once a week to help me with shopping lists. I can edit them on my PowerBook or on the Treo and have them with me at whichever store I'm in. I also use Splash Shopper as a checklist program for things like packing before a trip, and preparing for a DJ gig.

I have a database of thousands of songs stored on my MMC card. As a DJ I am able to refer to that database anytime and anywhere I may be; including in cramped DJ booths that don't fit a laptop.

Other things I do on a regular basis is look up words in a dictionary, translate between English & Spanish on another dictionary, and record voice memos that can be synced back to my PowerBook. I've also got a pretty cool security program - if I lose the phone I just send a text message to it with a special code and it will wipe the Treo's memory and the MMC's memory and lock out the SIM so it can't be used.

But YOU think I should give up all these things because you think the Treo's buttons aren't as cool as the iPhone's inteface.

Well I agree 100% that the iPhone is way cooler and the interface is awsome. But you're comment is ridiculous because some of us have needs for these devices to do certain things that the iPhone can not do.

And let me add that using web based apps is not a viable solution for me. AT&T;'s data network sucks and I don't want to store things like passwords and song databases on the web. And speaking of the web, yes the Treo's browser sucks and the few times I actually use it I wish like hell I had an iPhone. But that is not as important to me as the functionality I do get out of the Treo, mostly from 3rd party apps.

I'm hoping we'll see some huge changes with Leopard - I need a new phone and am purposely waiting to see if Leopard will bring changes to the iPhone.... But for now the fact of the matter is the iPhone is not a smart phone (what's smart about You Tube? I still think that's the most ridiculous add on I ever heard of). It's the greatest entertainment phone ever made.

I'm certain that one day I'll be able to do all those things on the iPhone; but for now I need those things so I need my Treo. In the meantime, you shouldn't assume everyone uses their phones like you do, and you should get down off your high horse.

Still jivin that 1.0.2

DJ Rizzo and Peter,

I agree with you both, although, living in Berlin, I don't (can't) own an iPhone yet.
The latest podcast from Macworld http://www.macworld.com/ contains a reasonably balanced discussion on this topic, in contrast to the knee-jerk reaction of MDN and the hysterical outbursts of some of the posters here.